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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 09:20 PM
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I just finished installing the UR Underdrive Crank Pulley on my xB. I weighed the stock pulley and the UR pulley so everyone could see just how much lighter the UR pulley is.

Stock Pulley

3 lbs. 11 oz.

UR Pulley

14 1/2 oz.

Installation should be easy, but it never is for me. I was worried about getting the crank bolt off and it was no problem. However, the bottom alternator bolt is pretty much impossible. The service manual lists the torque as 40 ft./lbs. It's probably more like 400 ft. lbs. Needless to say, I never managed to loosen the bolt, but I did get the alternator to move enough to relieve the belt tension a little. Also, for those who don't know, since the UR Pulley is underdriven you'll need to pick up a smaller belt from your local auto parts store. UR provides the part number with the instructions.

As far as performance is concerned, I am very pleased. My butt dyno suggests that this part makes at least as much HP as my Injen Short Ram Intake. The best part is that you actually feel some gain in the lower RPM. Based on my first impression I would suggest this upgrade to anyone looking for a little extra kick.
Old Aug 9, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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looks nice to bad i just ordered the perrin pully i like the way this one looks but kinda sucks you had to get a new belt
Old Aug 9, 2005 | 10:10 PM
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i wouldnt want underdriven. but that's me.
Old Aug 10, 2005 | 06:40 AM
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Has anyone ever weighed the Perrin?
Old Aug 10, 2005 | 06:46 AM
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would autos gain anything from these pulleys??
Old Aug 10, 2005 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by aireck
would autos gain anything from these pulleys??
I'm not sure I totally understand your question....
Old Aug 10, 2005 | 06:58 AM
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well are these beneficial for autos....??

would it help out an auto xb in anyway??

hopes that simplifies it!!
Old Aug 10, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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yep any reduction in rotational mass will help.
Old Aug 10, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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Sweet I didn't know they finally came out with a pulley that was underdriven for the XB. I have a 20% underdriven piulley on my TC.
Old Aug 10, 2005 | 12:20 PM
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According to Perrin's website, their pulley is 1.3 lbs. They also claim that this is a 4 lb. reduction over the stock pulley which seems to be a little optimistic considering that the stock pulley only weighs 3 lbs. 11 oz. Of course my scale could be off a little, but its probably not 1.5 lbs. off.
Old Aug 10, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by aireck
well are these beneficial for autos....??

would it help out an auto xb in anyway??

hopes that simplifies it!!
Oh sorry, I thought you meant would automobiles gain anything from these pulllies
Old Aug 13, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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I installed the perrin pulley its an aewsome mod....................
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 03:56 AM
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The perrin pulley is 575 Grams, which equals 20.25 ounces. doesn't seem like a huge loss, not even a whole pound. Hopefully I can get mine installed this weekend, and I can post the weight of my stock pulley as well. Maybe toyota have different runs, and the pulleys could have different weights.

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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 04:23 AM
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The 1NZ UR underdrive pulley is said to be 15% underdriven. Hrmmmm
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 09:39 AM
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whats underdriven?
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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"Underdriven" means that the UR crank pulley is smaller than the stock unit. This causes the accessory pulleys that are driven by the crank pulley to turn more slowly and exert less parasitic drag on the engine. In this case, the alternator and the A/C compressor are underdriven and the power steering pump turns at the original speed.
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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isn't it if you install an underdrive pulley, it will affect the ac cooling ability??
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jbae1221
isn't it if you install an underdrive pulley, it will affect the ac cooling ability??
Didn't affect mine at all and I'm running a 20% underdriven pulley on my TC
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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our compressor shuts off at WOT doesn't it?
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by -KangaRod-
our compressor shuts off at WOT doesn't it?
Yes it does



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