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Mar 5, 2008 | 01:28 PM

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i actually was at a complete stop... im not one of those "idiots" that you are speaking about... i actually was running 9.5 psi and over 200whp in my xB.. that might have caused my tranny 2 blow...

Mar 5, 2008 | 04:56 PM

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9.5 psi won't get you over 200hp, sorry the numbers don't work. what set up do you have?

if you were stopped, and shifting between r-1....thats not how it was worded/read.

either way, i'm in the same ballpark of hp and it takes it fine.
i've seen the internals of this tranny, it is well built for our abuses.

could just have been the luck of the draw...doing mass production will let a few irregulars through...
hows the new tranny, any issues?

Mar 5, 2008 | 05:57 PM

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sorry if i misworded.. but no problems yet with the new tranny... not sure where or how it was put on.. but i did notice a nice crack on top of the transmission if you look down from the engine bay... thanks ZPI RACING =/

well see how things go once i install my turbo toyotas kit

Mar 6, 2008 | 12:39 PM

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are you sure it is a crack and not a casting mark?
keep an eye on it anyways.

Apr 8, 2008 | 07:17 AM

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Hello,

I don't usually post but I'm posting this...

for those who is interested in a 6spd into your box....

-Buy a C160 trans off a Corolla AE111 or AE101 ... you can find these dirt cheap because people only buy these clip for the black top 20valves ( 20valve 4A_GE)
and basically the trannies sit out in the dirt lot or in the shelves collection dust. I bought mine for a $100 bucks...

-Swap your C56 Bell Housing over to the C160 ... it should mate together like my C150 together because these are all C-Series trans...

-people ask about axles... your stock axles are fine just as long you upgrade to a Corolla ZZE110 chasis axles seals...

-cutting is required... this is something you cant go around...

but from what I figure... you can do this swap for less than the cost of a TRD gear set... If you know the right people or do your own work....

I hope this helps...

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Jun 14, 2009 | 02:23 AM

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Bookmarked!!!

Jun 25, 2009 | 05:00 PM

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According to you could I be installed the C54 transmission in place of C56?

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May 28, 2011 | 05:42 PM

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Hey everyone... I know this thread is super-old, but I stumbled upon it called my friend at a local Toyota/Scion dealer. The part numbers & retail prices for the '03+ Corolla 5th gear swap are as follows... hope this benefits more people on here & not just me.

5th gear drive sprocket # 33036-1210 -$155.09
5th gear driven sprocket # 33428-12100 -$138.55
xB transaxle seal kit (mostly Orange RTV but this is the rest) #04331-02060 -$34.21

May 28, 2011 | 07:21 PM

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2006xbbop, i hope it goes well for you. i just learned to live with it and moved on. still, a taller fifth would be nice...

May 30, 2011 | 01:51 AM

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Nice info. I'll consider the Corolla 5th gear option when I next replace my clutch.

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Aug 7, 2011 | 04:03 PM

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Did someone already did the fifth gear swap from Corolla 03 tranny fifth gear? I'll like to know if it easy bolt on and it is working perfect without any issue.

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Aug 24, 2017 | 06:05 PM

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Successful 5th gear swap

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Originally Posted by pabli999

did someone already did the fifth gear swap from corolla 03 trani fifth gear? I'll like to know if it easy bolt on and it is working perfect without any issue.

I know this was a long time ago, but I just completed swapping 5th gear for 03 Corolla. Everything fits perfectly and I have about 200 miles on it so far. I don’t know about long term benefits yet, but I have noticed downshifting a little more on inclines. If anyone is still interested in doing this let me know. I have all the part numbers. It cost about $1000 including labor and a new clutch while I was in there.

Aug 24, 2017 | 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sikbrik

copy this and import it into Excel as space delimited text and it will make more sense. basically, it's a few options and a few non-options, just for comparison. The '03 + Corolla 5th gives you a really nice combo and lower cruising RPM than the 6-spd swap WITHOUT the cutting.
Better acceleration than the Echo final drive, and it swaps right in. Part #'s coming next if I don't get flamed like crazy again by people who swear that the Echo final is the only way to go.

xA Corolla (03-06) xA - Corolla 5th xA - Corolla final drive xA: Corolla 5th & final 00-05 celica xA: Corolla final - Celica 4th xA with C60/C160

1st 3.54 3.166 3.54 3.54 3.54 3.166 3.54 3.166
2nd 1.904 1.904 1.904 1.904 1.904 1.904 1.904 2.05
3rd 1.31 1.31 1.31 1.31 1.31 1.392 1.31 1.481
4th 0.969 0.885 0.969 0.969 0.969 1.031 1.031 1.166
5th 0.815 0.725 0.725 0.815 0.725 0.815 0.815 0.916
6th - - - - - - - 0.725
final 4.31 3.94 4.31 3.94 3.94 4.31 3.94 4.529

overall>>
1st 15.2574 12.47404 15.2574 13.9476 13.9476 13.64546 13.9476 14.338814
2nd 8.20624 7.50176 8.20624 7.50176 7.50176 8.20624 7.50176 9.28445
3rd 5.6461 5.1614 5.6461 5.1614 5.1614 5.99952 5.1614 6.707449
4th 4.17639 3.4869 4.17639 3.81786 3.81786 4.44361 4.06214 5.280814
5th 3.51265 2.8565 3.12475 3.2111 2.8565 3.51265 3.2111 4.148564
6th - - - - - - - 3.283525

Tire Size 185/60/15 185/65/15 185/60/15 185/60/15 185/60/15 195/60/15 185/60/15 185/60/15
Tire Dia. 23.74 24.47 23.74 23.74 23.74 24.21 23.74 23.74

RPM @ 80 in 5th
(mph x drive ratio x 336) / tire diameter = rpm 3977 3138 3538 3636 3234 3900 3636 3718

RPM @ 65 in 5th 3232 2550 2875 2954 2628 3169 2954 3021

Theroetical top speed @ 6500 rpm in top gear. 127 166 142 139 156 133 139 140

Thank you for all this info. I just completed this swap with 03 Corolla and it works great. I’m hoping for improved gas mileage, but only time will tell. Your numbers and all the info on this thread was invaluable to making the swap possible.

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Apr 2, 2018 | 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ehlenjme

Hi few months later and I noticed that you answered my question, thanks for anwer it and please share the part list you use and let us know if your gas mileage improve after that 5th gear swap. Thanks.

Feb 16, 2019 | 12:31 PM

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Corolla 5th gear swap

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Originally Posted by Ehlenjme

I would like to know the correct part numbers, I’m a mechanic and need to do this to my Scion xB.

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Apr 7, 2019 | 01:34 AM

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Parts List

Main needed parts
You will need 5th gear drive and driven, needle roller bearing, output shaft nut.
03 Corolla 5th Gear (Drive) - 33036-12120
03 Corolla 5th Gear (Driven) - 33428-12060 (I ended up with 33428-12100 as an updated part number)
Needle Roller Bearing - 90364-24006
Output Shaft Nut - 90179-18005
Toyota Transmission Seal 1281 (FIPG) - 00295-01281

May 23, 2019 | 05:05 PM

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1st Gen Scion xB 5th gear..

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Originally Posted by Ehlenjme

Once I shift into 5th gear I have high rpm.

When I'm in 5th gear going about 80 and my rpm are @4000. When I got the car I thought the clutch was going out so I replaced it and got the same result.
So I look it up online and everyone is talking about this problem.

Does anyone have proof of this problem being fixed like a YouTube video or something?

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