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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 11:56 PM
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I would like to see a variable intake (which the stock unit may be?), even if it was an adapted version of another factory manifold (Miata comes to mind...)

http://members.aol.com/solomiata2/99intakeManifold.jpg

Doesn't Toyota use these on anything? A ton of other manufacturers do.

Anyway, my other thought was what if you join the runners for about half the distance of the runner, about 2/3 of the way up the runner. This is hard to describe without drawing it...you can kind of see what I mean here: http://www.thirdgen.org/newdesign/te...meseport.shtml
They are joined 2 and 2 and then slowly split into one at the ends. Because of the way they are joined, at lower speeds the air is pulled along in the individual runner channels. At higher speeds, it can use the larger siamesed runner chamber created at the beginning of the runner tubes. This might be a sweet setup on the Scions.

Just a few random thoughts...
Old Feb 9, 2006 | 12:00 AM
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NOTE about above...the siamesed runners shown are amateur and a little excessive. I couldn't find a better pic. SLP Performance (www.slponline.com) makes a set that's much better for those cars.
Old Apr 5, 2006 | 07:20 PM
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bump for info
Old Apr 5, 2006 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by eXciteBox
bump for info
yes, i still have much interest in this too.
Old Apr 5, 2006 | 11:22 PM
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who doesn't! for the bling factor alone!
but, seriously, i'll be all over it if it comes out and is useful.
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 01:05 AM
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any new info? been 3 months since you guys said you were going back to the drawing board and/or going to do more testing.
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 03:14 PM
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I also am curious about how progress is going. It ould be great if you can get some mid to high end power without losing any low end. Keep us posted.
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 03:28 PM
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Off topic a bit, but is it possible to remove the internal baffles to free up some hp?
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 04:07 PM
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I want one of these!
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Originally Posted by Epitrochoid
Off topic a bit, but is it possible to remove the internal baffles to free up some hp?
no.

it will make things worse.
as they found out, a plain manifold will loose power on a NA setup.
Old May 27, 2006 | 05:50 AM
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bump for any new info?
Old Jul 1, 2006 | 01:50 PM
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What he was saying about removing the internal baffles.... could you basically get inside the manifold with a drill and polish the insides out so the air flow is better on the stock one? I will have an extra stock intake once i replace my stock one because it has a crack right near the throttle body.
Old Jul 1, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dgHotLava
Originally Posted by Epitrochoid
Off topic a bit, but is it possible to remove the internal baffles to free up some hp?
no.

it will make things worse.
as they found out, a plain manifold will loose power on a NA setup.
Old Jul 1, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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they didn't really find out that a stock manifold with baffles removed would lose hp...the found out that a sheetmetal manifold with similar runner lengths and without baffles lost hp. That's a very different thing.

I'm not saying it would help, just clarifying that no tests were done with a stock manifold with baffles removed.
Old Jul 1, 2006 | 03:34 PM
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^^^ you have a VERY good point!
Old Jul 1, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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is there anything else you can smooth out inside there to increase performance. Also if it did improve a little would it affect gas mpg in any way?
Old Jul 1, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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(leaving the baffles in but working on other areas inside is what i meant.)
Old Dec 19, 2006 | 08:49 PM
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so where is the dyno sheet
Old Dec 20, 2006 | 04:27 AM
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Bwahahahah...
Old Dec 20, 2006 | 07:33 AM
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what?



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