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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 01:10 AM
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My friend from Georgia went to the track last week, he drives a civic. While he was there he saw an xb there, so he decided to give me a call. Well, i wasn't able to talk to him again until today but here is what he told me.

RS1 Xb, or re-painted to be orng:
-CF hatch
-CF oem style hood
-i/h/e
-short shifter
-"stage 3" spec clutch
-perrin crank pulley
- Greddy t/c
He also said he had some other things done as well, but couldn't remember off the top of his head. He said this guy, who's Justin (?) showed him a dyno sheet of 138whp @ 5,100rpm. He talked to him after he watched him do two runs, the guy did do three runs but he only saw two. Both were in the 14's and he had a best run of 14.2.

Now before you guys start flaming, my friend has no reason to lie to me. He drives a civic, he respects Scion as a company and he was extremely impressed. Impressed enough to tell me the next chance he could.

Also, being i wasn't there he has no videos or pictures. However, i thought i would post this up incase this Justin (?) guy is apart of scionlife, or if anyone know who he is. It's the fastest 1/4 time i've heard of so far for the xb/xa, which shouldn't be shocking to you guys. I mean, there are quite a few n/a xb's breaking 15's now. I'm in the low-mid 16's for my box.

Again, No pictures, No videos. Don't ask me for any please. I know this is just talk since i can't back it up with anything, but he told me if he seems him again he wants to take pictures and or a video for me to show me.
Old Feb 5, 2006 | 01:11 AM
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 02:04 AM
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43 views and no replies?? Common guys, i know this is interesting to you.
Old Feb 5, 2006 | 02:32 AM
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 02:36 AM
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No way Jose 138 hp at the wheels in a x/b that would run 15.5 you would need 179 hp at the wheels to run 14.2. That's why their is no interest this in thread. Somone is full of dog poo either your friend or Justin. Bye the way 138@5100rpm sounds way wrong.The engine makes max power at 5900 rpm so it sounds like that dyno run was cut off way to early or it's fake. Either way that's why this thread is dead end.
Old Feb 5, 2006 | 02:42 AM
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No way Jose 138 hp at the wheels in a x/b that would run 15.5 you would need 179 hp at the wheels to run 14.2. That's why their is no interest this in thread. Somone is full of dog poo either your friend or Justin. Bye the way 138@5100rpm sounds way wrong.The engine makes max power at 5900 rpm so it sounds like that dyno run was cut off way to early or it's fake. Either way that's why this thread is dead end.
So 138whp would run 15.5? Is this why hotbox05, and others are breaking 15's running 15.8-15.9 n/a? Talk to hotbox05, hes running i/h/e, engine damper and then weight reduction and other things, he constantly runs high 15's to 16.0ish and his best time i believe is either 15.7 or 15.8. I might also point out, that the powerband changes when you start to mod. The powerband doesn't stay constant at 5,900rpm or whatever stock is. A good example of that is, i was dyno'd at 96whp @ 4,900rpm with my current set up, and this was on an auto and we went all the way to 6,350rpm.

Sorry sir, but don't mislead people on this thread.
Old Feb 5, 2006 | 03:12 AM
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oh, by the way. 14.2 does seem high to me, but he also has some weight reduction, and may have more. He didn't tell me everything, just off the top of his head that he could remember. But you would be in the 14's with 138whp.
Old Feb 5, 2006 | 04:24 AM
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Is good to know somebody is doing that time
but for me is too much money for that time
and you need to correct some errors in your post because
if they have greddy t/c dont need header
RS1 Xb, or re-painted to be orng:
-CF hatch
-CF oem style hood
-i/h/e
-short shifter
-"stage 3" spec clutch
-perrin crank pulley
- Greddy t/c
but is nothing bad just for my expirience
in the mods you mention they have like $4500 so for me is too
much for that time an like the other said 138hp is not enougth to do that time
not try to mess with you killerromance just my .02 cents
Old Feb 5, 2006 | 11:47 AM
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how did you come up with 4500?

the turbo kit is around 2 grand.
the hood and hatch can be had for 800.
the pulley , shortshifter are like 200
the clutch kit is like 800 or 900 installed
that's about 4,000 and that's with retail/average prices. many of these items can be had for less.
Old Feb 5, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:47 am Post subject:

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how did you come up with 4500?

the turbo kit is around 2 grand.
where do you find a greddy turbo kit for this price????????????????????????

the most cheap plase I found is $2495 and is to high because is only
a tubo manifold, turbo, blow off, and two pipes thats it no intercooler
Old Feb 5, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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it's 1950 regular price at www.upgrademotoring.com

that's the new carb pending , intercooled kit.
Old Feb 5, 2006 | 05:51 PM
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14.2...?!
I know a ford guy who claimed to shave almost 2seconds by gutting everything from his car, and I mean everything (the interior consisted of a seat, shifter, steering whel, and some gauges attached to the steering column). His doors were basically just sheet metal. If this guy's xb was like that, your friend would have remembered. Besides, ford crap weighs 5tons, and I dont think anything in, on, or around our cars can make that kind of weight reduction. If the car was like that, it would also have to be trailered in and out of the place. Nobody would risk a pullover riding a setup like that on the street.
I'm not saying you're lying, or anything like that. Maybe your friend was mistaken or something. If it is true, then that is freaking awesome- but I seriously doubt 14.2. 15.2 would impress the hell out of me, but 14.2? Maybe not impossible, but damn!
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Hey guys, keep in mind this is passed down information. 14.2 is fast for 138whp, but i don't know all of his mods. For all i know, his interior could have been basically stripped to nothing, and he could have different gears. I don't know, just passing down.
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300 hp usually gets 14's
Old Feb 6, 2006 | 01:42 AM
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His box would have to weigh 1800lbs to run 14.2 at 138hp at the wheels. I doubt he removed 617 pounds from his 5 speed or 670 pounds from his auto. Maybe he ran his x/b without the body just frame and motor and trans much more aero.
Old Feb 6, 2006 | 02:11 AM
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Are you using an online quarter mile calculator cuz you're quoting specific weights and whp. Stop looking up that garbage and actually go out and race your car and see if it measures up cuz all that crap is bull when it comes to racing.

Stock scion completely gutted...stock I/H/and a straight pipe with STOCK muffler and I run under 16 every time on steelies and stock rubber because my reaction time is absolutely flawless...I've gotten .501 multiple times and usually never break past .52

and for the "300hp usually gets 14s remark"...put a b16 in an eg hatch with i/h/e and good tires and you'll run 14s well under 200hp.
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300whp on a tC will put you in the high 13's 1/4, and thats a 3,000lbs+ car with a driver. So that remark is out of the question. Not to mention i ran low 13's with 231whp and custom gearing in a integra gs-r.

Also about the 1,800lbs 138whp remark. It would not have to weigh 1,800lbs to get a 14.2. If the guy removed the a/c unit, all the seats and just had one racing seat, or two for the front, and gutted everything else and weighed him. I am willing to bet he would be in the 2,200lbs range. Like i said, i don't know what all he had done except what my friend told me. But its not impossible, some of you are really blowing up on here giving horrible information about what it takes to be in the low 14's.
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Do you know what track he went to here in GA? I've never heard or seen an RS1 with any c/f on it, but will be on the look out for it.
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Originally Posted by WagenMaster
Do you know what track he went to here in GA? I've never heard or seen an RS1 with any c/f on it, but will be on the look out for it.
No idea, i'll ask next time i talk to my friend and find out for you. I'm pretty sure its southern georgia because my friend lives about 30-40 minutes from the Fl line.
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Originally Posted by Eddy2006
His box would have to weigh 1800lbs to run 14.2 at 138hp at the wheels. I doubt he removed 617 pounds from his 5 speed or 670 pounds from his auto. Maybe he ran his x/b without the body just frame and motor and trans much more aero.
gearing , reaction time , track conditions. all variables not in your calculation



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