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Old Apr 25, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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He runs a 13.7 all day long, and the xA runs low 14s...

Id be up to see that race.. Maybe at the next Scion event at Atco, or Etown in May.

Wonder how far that is from Good ole' TN....
Old Apr 25, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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not sure, dont think that far
or you can see him at NOPI @ MIR in may
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Description: The throw-out bearing, or clutch release bearing as it's sometimes called, is located between the clutch fork and the pressure plate fingers. The throw-out bearing only operates when the clutch pedal is depressed; the bearing is not designed for continuous use.

Purpose: When the driver steps on the clutch pedal, the throw-out bearing applies force to the fingers of the spinning pressure plate to release the clutch. When the clutch pedal is released, the bearing sits idle and does not contact the pressure plate fingers.

Maintenance Tips/Suggestions: The classic symptom of a worn throw-out bearing is a whirring or growling sound when applying the clutch pedal, which goes away when releasing the pedal. Premature wear of the throw-out bearing can occur when there is insufficient clutch play, resulting in a throw-out bearing that spins continuously. If the bearing fails, it may seize and quickly wear the fingers of the pressure plate. The throw-out bearing does not require routine maintenance, but should be replaced when clutch replacement becomes necessary. Consult a professional technician to determine whether the throw-out bearing or other parts of the clutch assembly need replacement.


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He runs a 13.7 all day long, and the xA runs low 14s...

Id be up to see that race.. Maybe at the next Scion event at Atco, or Etown in May.

Wonder how far that is from Good ole' TN....
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Old Apr 25, 2006 | 09:06 PM
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He runs a 13.7 all day long, and the xA runs low 14s...

Id be up to see that race.. Maybe at the next Scion event at Atco, or Etown in May.

Wonder how far that is from Good ole' TN....
Map it out, I listed the zip codes for you, so you can get an estimate.

May 6-7 6th annual
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May 20-21 5th annual
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852.9 miles
13hr 37min


Pretty far, wonder if there is anything in between.
Old Apr 26, 2006 | 12:00 AM
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Thanks for the info Nick( nice rides) but the question was for the nineteen year old, one car I thought so bfd. I am sure your parents bought you that ride and your current one. Well maybe not you might still live with your parents rent free and use the money you get working at kmart for your x/b payments. Two for two
And who the heel are you to come in here and mock some "kid" for only owning two cars? Or accepting help from his parents at a young age?

Tell me Eddy... what were you doing from the ages of 16-20 in the automotive world? And what makes you a better person than him now that you are 39 and looking at buying an xB?

So lets flip your whole question... What have you owned in you (assumed) 23 years of driving? What have you done that makes you so special in the automotive world? What makes you superior to the younger kids in this forum just coming up?

And just to be fair, my cars...

'68 Mercury Cougar (Parents bought it, I paid back every penny)
'99 Dodge Dakota R/T (Customized beyond a short description. Still own it.)
'78 Ford Bronco (Rusted out daily driver)
'01 HD Sportster (Only kept it for a year)
'65 Chrysler Newport (Was hit and wrecked, but still own)
'98 Honda Prelude (My daily driver)
'05 Scion xB (The wife's car)
Old Apr 26, 2006 | 12:08 AM
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both of them are nice guys

justin had a sick xA

munch has a sick tC

both of them are very nice guys, and are valued members of the scion community. so lets stop the fighting and if we are goin to talk, talk about how nice the xA or tC is.
Old Apr 26, 2006 | 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Eddy2006
Thanks for the info Nick( nice rides) but the question was for the nineteen year old, one car I thought so bfd. I am sure your parents bought you that ride and your current one. Well maybe not you might still live with your parents rent free and use the money you get working at kmart for your x/b payments. Two for two
My parents helped with the downpayment of the gsr, but after that first payment everything else i paid, including parts. With the xb, 100% of parts and payments, including downpayment was me. And yes, i do live with my parents for the time being. I'm moving back out over the summer, and that has nothing to do with this topic nor does it have anything to do with knowledge now does it. No.
Old Apr 26, 2006 | 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Eddy2006
Thanks for the info Nick( nice rides) but the question was for the nineteen year old, one car I thought so bfd. I am sure your parents bought you that ride and your current one. Well maybe not you might still live with your parents rent free and use the money you get working at kmart for your x/b payments. Two for two
And who the heel are you to come in here and mock some "kid" for only owning two cars? Or accepting help from his parents at a young age?

Tell me Eddy... what were you doing from the ages of 16-20 in the automotive world? And what makes you a better person than him now that you are 39 and looking at buying an xB?

So lets flip your whole question... What have you owned in you (assumed) 23 years of driving? What have you done that makes you so special in the automotive world? What makes you superior to the younger kids in this forum just coming up?

And just to be fair, my cars...

'68 Mercury Cougar (Parents bought it, I paid back every penny)
'99 Dodge Dakota R/T (Customized beyond a short description. Still own it.)
'78 Ford Bronco (Rusted out daily driver)
'01 HD Sportster (Only kept it for a year)
'65 Chrysler Newport (Was hit and wrecked, but still own)
'98 Honda Prelude (My daily driver)
'05 Scion xB (The wife's car)
Thanks for backing me up, although you didn't need to. People on here judge way too much by age, which age has nothing to do with it. I've met a 35 year old just getting into cars and the whole tuning world, eddy doesn't realize this and i assume because of my age, he also believes i'm immature since hes hint at that in the past in this thread, and others i believe.

Aside from all of this, back to topic. Blown, your taking everyone way too seriously. No one is bashing your times nor your car. The only ones that are saying things, are just saying the set up wont last. Basically, you could take some of our advice and imply it to yourset up. I personally think its pointless to run a set up like yours knowing it wont last, of course, i know you disagree with me on that note but hey, instead of reading too deep into what we are saying why don't you just take it as positive critizism instead of getting all worked up over it.
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Thanks for backing me up, although you didn't need to. People on here judge way too much by age, which age has nothing to do with it. I've met a 35 year old just getting into cars and the whole tuning world, eddy doesn't realize this and i assume because of my age, he also believes i'm immature since hes hint at that in the past in this thread, and others i believe.

Aside from all of this, back to topic. Blown, your taking everyone way too seriously. No one is bashing your times nor your car. The only ones that are saying things, are just saying the set up wont last. Basically, you could take some of our advice and imply it to yourset up. I personally think its pointless to run a set up like yours knowing it wont last, of course, i know you disagree with me on that note but hey, instead of reading too deep into what we are saying why don't you just take it as positive critizism instead of getting all worked up over it.

You are not his dad, nor do you pay his bills, or put the money into his motor. So, it's safe to say...."Who cares about your opinion?" I don't think when the thread got started did I ever read in his post, "do you guys think my engine will be reliable with these mods?" Exactly the point. He didn't ask for your opinion. All he said was "I ran a 14 flat in my xA".

If you go back to the first comment about "Your engine won't last"... It was made without even asking the guy what he had done internally. It was automatically assumed that nothing was done internally. And no one needs a peep talk from others when they didn't ask for your 2 cents.
Old Apr 26, 2006 | 03:31 AM
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Thanks for backing me up, although you didn't need to. People on here judge way too much by age, which age has nothing to do with it. I've met a 35 year old just getting into cars and the whole tuning world, eddy doesn't realize this and i assume because of my age, he also believes i'm immature since hes hint at that in the past in this thread, and others i believe.

Aside from all of this, back to topic. Blown, your taking everyone way too seriously. No one is bashing your times nor your car. The only ones that are saying things, are just saying the set up wont last. Basically, you could take some of our advice and imply it to yourset up. I personally think its pointless to run a set up like yours knowing it wont last, of course, i know you disagree with me on that note but hey, instead of reading too deep into what we are saying why don't you just take it as positive critizism instead of getting all worked up over it.

You are not his dad, nor do you pay his bills, or put the money into his motor. So, it's safe to say...."Who cares about your opinion?" I don't think when the thread got started did I ever read in his post, "do you guys think my engine will be reliable with these mods?" Exactly the point. He didn't ask for your opinion. All he said was "I ran a 14 flat in my xA".

If you go back to the first comment about "Your engine won't last"... It was made without even asking the guy what he had done internally. It was automatically assumed that nothing was done internally. And no one needs a peep talk from others when they didn't ask for your 2 cents.
Well first off, i knew what he had done from seeing a post of his mentioning his parts in the past. So i knew his internals are stock, to 90% stock. Also, on this thread hes listed his mods as well. I agree, he didn't ask for opinions. But when you start a thread like this, its a given opinions will come out, and people will either put him down for this or praise him. You can't please everyone.

And when it comes to me not being his dad so who cares about my opinion. Who cares about anyones opinion then? If people thought your way, no automotive site would exist because. Who cares? No ones opinion is any better than mine, nor is mine any better than anyone elses. Dad, funded, or neither.
Old Apr 26, 2006 | 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by blown_xa
WOW you guys take this way too seriously. You only live life once, a car is just a hunk of metal. This all is so funny because the guys who are trying to prove a point here have never boosted a 1.5.(hotbox) so what can they possibly know, or never ran it at the track continusely if they have(simply). And it's also funny cause numerious posts inquire that anything above 6psi of boost on the motor and u blow a rod within 12,000 miles. I'm hitting 11psi. Just goes to show u that lots of info on this forum is complete nonsense. WHEN U GUYS BLOW UP AN XA, LET ME KNOW, until then, then info u force upon me is crap.
OMG, ive been running 11,000 miles on 11psi already. Looks like my box is going to blow up in a 1000 miles. I better start looking for a new engine.
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Originally Posted by killerxromances
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
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Thanks for backing me up, although you didn't need to. People on here judge way too much by age, which age has nothing to do with it. I've met a 35 year old just getting into cars and the whole tuning world, eddy doesn't realize this and i assume because of my age, he also believes i'm immature since hes hint at that in the past in this thread, and others i believe.

Aside from all of this, back to topic. Blown, your taking everyone way too seriously. No one is bashing your times nor your car. The only ones that are saying things, are just saying the set up wont last. Basically, you could take some of our advice and imply it to yourset up. I personally think its pointless to run a set up like yours knowing it wont last, of course, i know you disagree with me on that note but hey, instead of reading too deep into what we are saying why don't you just take it as positive critizism instead of getting all worked up over it.

You are not his dad, nor do you pay his bills, or put the money into his motor. So, it's safe to say...."Who cares about your opinion?" I don't think when the thread got started did I ever read in his post, "do you guys think my engine will be reliable with these mods?" Exactly the point. He didn't ask for your opinion. All he said was "I ran a 14 flat in my xA".

If you go back to the first comment about "Your engine won't last"... It was made without even asking the guy what he had done internally. It was automatically assumed that nothing was done internally. And no one needs a peep talk from others when they didn't ask for your 2 cents.
Well first off, i knew what he had done from seeing a post of his mentioning his parts in the past. So i knew his internals are stock, to 90% stock. Also, on this thread hes listed his mods as well. I agree, he didn't ask for opinions. But when you start a thread like this, its a given opinions will come out, and people will either put him down for this or praise him. You can't please everyone.

And when it comes to me not being his dad so who cares about my opinion. Who cares about anyones opinion then? If people thought your way, no automotive site would exist because. Who cares? No ones opinion is any better than mine, nor is mine any better than anyone elses. Dad, funded, or neither.

You miss the point...

Bottom line, get off it, cause he dosen't care if you think his engine will blow. Maybe he dosen't care if it blows...every thought about that? Maybe he is planning on beefing up another engine on the side, and then swapping stuff onto it...Who KNOWS man. So, just get off it already.
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You are the dummy putting down people on this site and their rides. Iam just pointing out where it's coming from a 19 I know everthing and anything and you don't know poop. You come off half cocked and you don't have all the info on somebodys ride, then you make a stupid comment like its gonna blow up just and not gonna last.

People here mod their car to go faster they are not looking to keep it forever. When your project car is done you buy something else stock and start all over again. Who are you tell somone its gonna blow up.

What do you do for a living its not working on cars thats for sure. I tired of people coming on here with your negative crap. I have owned and tricked out over a dozen cars in the last 25 years PS: the x/b average age is 38 so I kinda know when someone is full of air and poop.


If you have nothing good to say don't say anything unless your a jerk and idiot. Their is always a better way to say it make your point and make it positive and help the person with your knowledge and years of training and trial and error. Unless you get off by putting down other peoples rides to make your self feel big and strong and powerful. You sound more weak to me with your huge ego and small brain. PS: get a life.
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Eddy, I want to be nice to you because it is your birthday, I really do. But you come across in your posts as a complete tool. There is nothing worse in an online forum (or in any scenario for that matter) than the guy crying "can't we all just get along." No, we can't. And no, I am not going to keep my mouth shut when I don't agree with something, or I don't like something. And neither should anyone else.

It is diversity, personal taste and differing opinions that keeps us progressing in whatever we do. If everyone held their tongue every time they didn't agree with something this forum would die. If you had it your way I could just imagine how many crappy worthless "Check out my new APC sticker" posts we would see on this forum. The exchange of useful knowledge would die.

And as for your comments toward "killerxromances" you may want to take a good look at yourself before attacking others. Many times in life, age means absolutely nothing. Wisdom comes with experience, and knowledge with education. Neither of them are inherited through age. And if you don't believe me, I can quickly show you some examples to prove my case.

So why don't YOU take a step back and let the grown ups speak their mind. If you want a touchy, feely forum where everyone loves each other no matter what you may want to try http://www.cottoncandycloudsandrainb.../hugsandkisses
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^^^^ Thats the funniest thing i have ever read Your the man Dustin
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Originally Posted by RTon20s
Eddy, I want to be nice to you because it is your birthday, I really do. But you come across in your posts as a complete tool. There is nothing worse in an online forum (or in any scenario for that matter) than the guy crying "can't we all just get along." No, we can't. And no, I am not going to keep my mouth shut when I don't agree with something, or I don't like something. And neither should anyone else.

It is diversity, personal taste and differing opinions that keeps us progressing in whatever we do. If everyone held their tongue every time they didn't agree with something this forum would die. If you had it your way I could just imagine how many crappy worthless "Check out my new APC sticker" posts we would see on this forum. The exchange of useful knowledge would die.

And as for your comments toward "killerxromances" you may want to take a good look at yourself before attacking others. Many times in life, age means absolutely nothing. Wisdom comes with experience, and knowledge with education. Neither of them are inherited through age. And if you don't believe me, I can quickly show you some examples to prove my case.

So why don't YOU take a step back and let the grown ups speak their mind. If you want a touchy, feely forum where everyone loves each other no matter what you may want to try http://www.cottoncandycloudsandrainb.../hugsandkisses
, This was also the point i was trying to make to rythmn.

Eddy you keep going on about age and you have talked about how you've owned so many "tricked out cars". Also, as i've said numerous times, i do not claim to know everything. You should show me a post, anywhere on this entire site, or any other site i'm apart of that proves i believe this, you let me know. Actions speak louder than words, in this case your words speak louder than your put downs on me. You say i believe i'm full of it, yet you believe that my age effects what i know and where my place is in the society of tuners.

I think i'm done here for that this thread is starting to die.

Thanks again to RTon, i've talked to you before and your a good guy. At least someone here can have an open mind about life, ignorance kills any knowledge imo.
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Well, just so we dont forget what this thread is about:

Click below to see the boosted nitrous xA:

http://media.putfile.com/Sick-xA
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Ahhh...I really needed a good douchebag post tonight!

To the original post: I think it's sweet that a street driven xA is running 14's. So what if it's not that fast? It's still sweet.

Eddy, I love the 'age=intelligence' argument. BTW - I'm 30 and have owned 30 cars. WHOOPEEE! More than half of them would have spanked anything you've got in your arsenal. Again, Big F'ing Deal! My current stuff probably wouldn't, but it might. Let's stick with what's relevant. Oh, and I paid for all of them...I must be the man! Next you'll want me to PM you a list with how much each one cost, how many points I got at every show I entered them in, if I ran synthetic oil, and what my best 1/4 mile time (and 1/8 mile!) was with each. Dummy. And, come on man...picking on a 19yr old because you're 40? I wish he would challenge you to a foot race.

Regarding boost and internals and nitrous and alcohol, the posts are way to general. There were guys in my Mini club running 'twin-charged' turbo/sc setups with nitrous on top of that. Some blew at 6psi and 2k rpm, some blew at 19psi and 6k rpm, some haven't blown on similar setups. Thanks for the tips (genius!) that more power breaks stuff...I think the point that was being made is that a street driven xA can run 14's, at least for a while, and this guy is the first to post proof. Disagree with him all you want, but it's cool. Maybe the other stuff listed in this thread is cool, too, but that doesn't mean something slower or something not on your wish-list for a setup is lame.

Also, comparing a Scion to a Honda is kind of a weak argument. Where are the all the 14 second Honda Fit's at??? When the CRX's broke into the 14's and then 13's with forced induction, everyone went wild. That was with a 1.6 or a 1.8...they didn't keep their Civic DX stock with a 1.5! And they weren't OBDII. It's a shame we don't have that option. The level of development that has gone into Honda stuff over the years is phenomenal. I don't think the 'economy' side of the Scion brand (xa/xb) will ever hit that point. The tC might. Even so, you can't compare 'this stuff to that stuff' arbitrarily. Makes it sound like you're arguing just to argue...let's argue about relevant stuff, instead!

And this isn't really meant to be negative in any way...BUT...To the guy that drives a 500 mile commute each day...WTF do you do for a living??? You should buy a helicopter or something, man. "I'm just speaking the truth"

...and now back to my slow-butt stock xA commuter car for the night. Thanks for the laughs, fellas. Best thread in a while!
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Originally Posted by sikbrik
Ahhh...I really needed a good douchebag post tonight!

To the original post: I think it's sweet that a street driven xA is running 14's. So what if it's not that fast? It's still sweet.

Eddy, I love the 'age=intelligence' argument. BTW - I'm 30 and have owned 30 cars. WHOOPEEE! More than half of them would have spanked anything you've got in your arsenal. Again, Big F'ing Deal! My current stuff probably wouldn't, but it might. Let's stick with what's relevant. Oh, and I paid for all of them...I must be the man! Next you'll want me to PM you a list with how much each one cost, how many points I got at every show I entered them in, if I ran synthetic oil, and what my best 1/4 mile time (and 1/8 mile!) was with each. Dummy. And, come on man...picking on a 19yr old because you're 40? I wish he would challenge you to a foot race.

Regarding boost and internals and nitrous and alcohol, the posts are way to general. There were guys in my Mini club running 'twin-charged' turbo/sc setups with nitrous on top of that. Some blew at 6psi and 2k rpm, some blew at 19psi and 6k rpm, some haven't blown on similar setups. Thanks for the tips (genius!) that more power breaks stuff...I think the point that was being made is that a street driven xA can run 14's, at least for a while, and this guy is the first to post proof. Disagree with him all you want, but it's cool. Maybe the other stuff listed in this thread is cool, too, but that doesn't mean something slower or something not on your wish-list for a setup is lame.

Also, comparing a Scion to a Honda is kind of a weak argument. Where are the all the 14 second Honda Fit's at??? When the CRX's broke into the 14's and then 13's with forced induction, everyone went wild. That was with a 1.6 or a 1.8...they didn't keep their Civic DX stock with a 1.5! And they weren't OBDII. It's a shame we don't have that option. The level of development that has gone into Honda stuff over the years is phenomenal. I don't think the 'economy' side of the Scion brand (xa/xb) will ever hit that point. The tC might. Even so, you can't compare 'this stuff to that stuff' arbitrarily. Makes it sound like you're arguing just to argue...let's argue about relevant stuff, instead!

And this isn't really meant to be negative in any way...BUT...To the guy that drives a 500 mile commute each day...WTF do you do for a living??? You should buy a helicopter or something, man. "I'm just speaking the truth"

...and now back to my slow-butt stock xA commuter car for the night. Thanks for the laughs, fellas. Best thread in a while!
I wasn't fully comparing xb/xa to honda, i wasn't clear and i've gotten a lot of IMs about it. I was only comparing us to hondas in terms of weight. I forget what i was responding to when i said it, and i don't feel like looking it up. But, i wasn't comparing us to the line of hondas. I think it was on the statement of economy cars going fast. Yeah! That was it, blown was saying 14 seconds is fast for an economy car. And i was stating, that theres a ton of hondas out there running much faster, that are made for economy. I was only mentioning Honda due to the fact that they are similar with small displacement, weightless (hatchbacks, coupes although not the newer ones, and a few others and now the Fit). Hopefully that makes more sense, i'm exhausted.

Oh, and with the Fit statement. JDM fits is all i need to say. Majority of Honda's are much more suited for the road course environment, the Fit is no exception. Check out Spoon's Fit, ran almost identical times on the Spoon test course as a stock NSX. It's a shame we don't have a company like Spoon to be able to produce mods, and compare the xb/xa to a car like that. I'm willing to take on anyone willing to autocross with me though. Oh, and Mugen is in the process of delevoping a swap kit for the Fit, using a k20a i believe. But if you go to some japan Jazz (fit) forums, you will see quite a few fast Fit's using the motor given from factory. The Fit will catch up fast, aftermarket 99% of the times responds and produces products faster for Honda than just about any other car manufacture out there, including Toyota.

And please no one bring up the "Scion is marketing modifications" statement, someone did that from here on a fit forum, and my responce would be the same. Honda doesn't need to market their cars in this forum, the market is so big for them that each new car or new designed car that rolls off the lot, is an instant hit (talking cars, not the CRV and such) with aftermarket. Toyota? Recently, nothing. Scion was something Toyota needed to bring out to survive in the compact world imo.



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