Just so you guys are aware there are a couple new options available now for engine management. AEM is now shipping their Fuel and Ignition Controller. They have also posted up the software, as well as the xB wiring diagram on their website forums. No harness yet, but AEM has stated that Boomslang and Auto Sport Wiring are both considering making an xB harness.

Greddy has also just introduced their V-Manage. This one is strictly a valve timing controller. It would have to be used in conjunction with another engine management product to control your A/F ratio. The good news is, it is plug and play compatible with E-Manage Ultimate. The bad news is, there is no plug and play option for the xB. So you would have to hard wire the system.

 

Well the thing with the aem one is that it only works with manual and not automatic. As far as v-manage its the same thing as a camcon as far as tunning the vvti. Now if we had vvtl-i or i-vtec then e-manage ultimate and v-manage would be good. Emanage with camcon runs just as good and is cheaper and gives you a lot to tune. The only thing is that tuning the time (retarding or advancing) is where tuning your engine gets hard. I guess you have to get your a/f ratio balanced out before touching timing so you can see where you are at.

I'm most likely going to order the boomslang pnp harness so I won't have problems with any wiring diagrams from auto and manual and 2006 and prev.....

 

I NEED MORE INFO ON THE COMPUTER. lol

you guys need to fill me in on the celica ecu swap. i need more info please.

what years, makes (1zz/2zz) does this meen we could use the reflash for the supercharger as a base map to run off?

more info please.

 

well you cant reflash the ecu on the celica, matrix or corolla. Its going to be the same as far as tuning, your going to have to use a piggyback. what you need to find out is if the scion is cable driven throtle body. if it is you most likely will be able to use the apexi power fc stand alone ECU. you will have to start from nothing with the pfc but you will have full control of it.

i just recieved my radiator and its perfect because it elimenates the tranny lines that i will be sending to the seperate tranny cooler. my koyo radiator came up to $199 + $40 shipping. if anyone is inturested this is the seller sportsparts2000

 

I just got my Koyo radiator today from Titan Motorsports. The radiator is polished aluminium, looks awesome. I can't wait to install it.

 

Curious as to why?

 

its too hard to break the code on it. the dealers can but they wont. check out www.newcelica.org www.9thgencorolla.com and www.matrixowners.com and ask. but if it were to be easy why not just reflash our ecu's? cuz it cant. a chip will just get overwrittin by the stock ecu if you were to go that route.

 

2000-2002 celicas are easier to find a stanalone because they arent drive by wire. thats what is holding the scion back, the throtle body wire. before the throtle body was conncted directly to the pedal, now its powered by an electrical wire. so now standalone systems need this new feature that before was not needed. theres a guy on newcelica that goes by boosted2.0 he is developing a system where you use the stock ecu to control that feature but has a standalone for the rest. that guy knows a whole lot. i recommend you guys reading his posts about forced induction and tuning.

 

If you have the proper hardware and software - I see no reason why it can't be done.

I can understand the delay because of the DBW. But- eh..

 

Well what would be the proper hardware and software you are refering to. The only place I have ever heard had a reflash for a scion or a celica was jet chip. Look around and there is no proof that tune lasted to long. For that reason lotus did not use the same uce toyota used on the 2zz-ge. Toyota can retune the ecu though but there is no one that can offer that service to the public. In other countries toyota sold a sport tuned celica badged with an "M" but very limited. Its 2007 and no aftermarket company has cracked the celica ecu.

 

my xa isnt drive by wire...

only the tc

 

That makes me wounder why we still don't have a standalone. Well, hopefully aem will have there plug and play out soon. Hey bfurches, how's that glass led radiator hose? Any down sides to it?

 

We do have a standalone. Take your pick. We just don't have anything that is plug and play right now. It seems more and more obvious that you do not know these cars as well as you think you do.

Also, if you do some smart shopping you can actually pick up eManage Ultimate and vManage for LESS than what most people would pay for basic eManage and a Camcon.

 

Ok there's some missunderstanding here. For starters no one on this thread knows each other, so for someone to say that joe don't know sh_t, that's ignorant. End of that.

You are right, there is several standalones, but what I think everyone here is looking for is a unit that wil be popular with the community and be able to share base maps for starters. As far as saying emanage ultimate and v-manage route is cheaper, I don't really know. I do know that I payed 260 for emanage blue with optional harness shipped and 350 for camcon shipped. $510 for all. Doesn't emanage ultimate run $450 alone? Check ebay. So what setup are you running? Maybe you can give us some pointers as we few are pioneers on boosting the 1nz-fe and need advise and not conflict.

 

I probably shouldn't have been so harsh with my comment. And I really don't have any pointers beyond what I had previously stated. I'm not currently boosted, but I have done a lot of research on all of the kits, and most of the engine management options.

From what I have seen no one has been truly enthused with any of the more "convenient" options currently available. And very few, if any have been willing to go the more expensive routes.

Also, I wasn't trying to say that eManage Ultimate and vManage could be had cheaper than anybody could do eManage basic and a Camcon. If you are a savvy shopper, of course you could get your combination cheaper. However, if you are thorough in searching you can find eManage Ult., vManage and the optional harness for less than what most shops are charging for eManage and Camcons.

Honestly, if I were going boosted right now I would probably go for the new AEM F/IC in combination with a Camcon. I know it is still early in the release of the F/IC, but I have pretty high hopes for this unit as far as piggy backs go.

 

clear hose is straight, no issues yet, but im taking it off for a more "stock look"

 

Thanks for clearing that up RT. do you guys know why AEM states that the f/ic only works on manual scions? i dont see how it wouldnt work on an auto transmission

 

I'm not sure why they would state that either. A good place to ask them is in their forums. They are usually pretty repsonsive. Especially on a brand new product like the F/IC.

I took a look vack at their page, and I am not sure if it is limited to the m/t xB and xA. The written description is kind of unclear. It lists all the Scions together with the tC being lasted and listed as manual transmission only. It isn't 100% clear if that is strictly for the tC, or for all Scion models.

 

Just got the turbo kit, and boy is it dirty lol. i need to really clean this sucker up. All i need to buy is the boost gauge, the boomslang harness and the supporting software for the emanage.

 

I will be getting my 21 lbs. box on Monday 7/02. Todd is going to be sending out another box for me tomorrow. Can't wait.

Sci0nXa take some pictures.