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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 02:16 AM
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yes, but the AT is not the best for getting the power to the ground.
Old Jun 10, 2006 | 12:00 AM
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You're telling me. This things a dog off the line. But once it winds up it's okay, sorta.
Old Jun 12, 2006 | 06:08 AM
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dgHotLava Posted: 6/8/06 6:39PM Post subject:

it can help, but just a little.
the PE system has a weakness in the mid rpms (2800-3300)
you are lucky if you can get 1-2 hp in that range.
why cant it get any power in that range?..........

i want the PE because i want a sleeper........i wonder what matchbox was running in the 1/4 b4 he sold his box for da mini but then again i think he onlee did da 1/8 mile.....i know he ran like 10 something in the 1/8.......
Old Jun 12, 2006 | 10:41 AM
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actually, it is a real dog below those rpms...then in the top end of that range two things happen.
1. the SC stops becoming a parasitic drain on the system and starts making boost.
2. the normal power band of the motor also peaks.(vvt does it's magic too) you should be able to feel this 'kick' in your own car. when you add the SC it just makes it more of a 'kick'.

the PE is a sleeper. you have no tell tale sings, no noise...just a quicker than stock whip.

i forget what Matchbox was running down the track, but he did top out at 144hp.

he used the CamCon to tune with (at first) he got about 3.5 hp after doing about 20 dyno pulls.
Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by dgHotLava
actually, it is a real dog below those rpms...then in the top end of that range two things happen.
1. the SC stops becoming a parasitic drain on the system and starts making boost.
2. the normal power band of the motor also peaks.(vvt does it's magic too) you should be able to feel this 'kick' in your own car. when you add the SC it just makes it more of a 'kick'.

the PE is a sleeper. you have no tell tale sings, no noise...just a quicker than stock whip.

i forget what Matchbox was running down the track, but he did top out at 144hp.

he used the CamCon to tune with (at first) he got about 3.5 hp after doing about 20 dyno pulls.
hey don't forget he pulled 171hp on the same dyno ZPI used to get 180hp... saw Matchbox's car up close...very nice car and fast....and he if he ran some lightweight wheels instead....woulda been something
Old Jun 12, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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yup, he had some oversized heavy 19's on there when he pulled those numbers.

if ZPI got 180 with their setup, i wonder what a stock xB would have??? 130whp??

which is why i get better numbers from lighter 18's (thinking of droping to 17's, then seeing what i get.)
Old Jun 12, 2006 | 01:13 PM
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sup guys wow this thread grew lol, im lookin into the greddy turbo kit since its alot less expensive, and if i ever rebuild my engine i can up the psi alot easier im just waiting for that credit card to get here
Old Jun 12, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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didnt matchbox have problems with the camcom when he first got it?........yea he was pretty quick with some heavy 19s on there...........now i gotta save up for the PE and for some 16" Rota Slips
Old Jun 12, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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i don't remember him having trouble with the unit, rather he did not have the baseline settings.

once he got the baseline settings from PE, it was fine.

i had problems with the CamCon and asked him what he experienced...his setup never had the issues i did.
Old Jun 12, 2006 | 09:36 PM
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o my mistake but yea i knew i read somewhere that he/she had problems with the camcon i wish dat matchbox had more vids of his ride b4 he got da mini cuzz i would of luv to have seen his box in action but the photos were great too
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he upgraded from the camcon if i recall to a better set up....what he never solved was it running lean and throwing cel at 3500 rpms if I recall correctly
Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dgHotLava
no spooling noise.
on a SC that noise comes from the belt (tooth style).
this kit uses a multi v belt (or serpintine style).

if it is real quite (no radio and other traffic) i can hear a little bit of boost noise. open a window and the noise is covered up.

PE is a sleeper kit.
enjoy the performance. surprise everyone.
actually that is not true. My Blitz charger makes a lot of whinning noise but it uses a serpentine belt, 4pk, no tooth. The "roots" type charger (Blitz) makes a whinning noise, the "centrifical" type is much more quiet(power enterprises). The "Screw type charger (Greddy) makes noise also, but not as much as the roots type. Everyone is talking horsepower here, the PE kit puts out more power, but not nearly the torque, simply cause it is a centrifical type charger. depends on what u want, low end or top end power, low end is fun running around town. Also, to answer another question, the stock XA and XB puts down 93 whp
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i remember seeing some gauge being displayed on a Gameboy SP what was that? if i can recall correctly he said something bout being able to tune something with it
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Originally Posted by blown_xa
Originally Posted by dgHotLava
no spooling noise.
on a SC that noise comes from the belt (tooth style).
this kit uses a multi v belt (or serpintine style).

if it is real quite (no radio and other traffic) i can hear a little bit of boost noise. open a window and the noise is covered up.

PE is a sleeper kit.
enjoy the performance. surprise everyone.
actually that is not true. My Blitz charger makes a lot of whinning noise but it uses a serpentine belt, 4pk, no tooth. The "roots" type charger (Blitz) makes a whinning noise, the "centrifical" type is much more quiet(power enterprises). The "Screw type charger (Greddy) makes noise also, but not as much as the roots type. Everyone is talking horsepower here, the PE kit puts out more power, but not nearly the torque, simply cause it is a centrifical type charger. depends on what u want, low end or top end power, low end is fun running around town. Also, to answer another question, the stock XA and XB puts down 93 whp
ok...

i never really heard the roots style for the xb.
i know the roots systems for other cars and they used a toothed belt. they would drill little hole in the toothed pulley to quiet it down....

and hp is nice, but torque is what really makes it fun.
Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by itsme
i remember seeing some gauge being displayed on a Gameboy SP what was that? if i can recall correctly he said something bout being able to tune something with it
this is what you saw...

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...hlight=gameboy

there was another thread...but you can search for it...
Old Jun 13, 2006 | 12:53 AM
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shouldnt there onlee b a weekness in first gear since that would most likely b da onlee time where you would b in the 2800-3300rpms well when your gunning it anyways then after 1st gear your basically above 3300rpm and then thats nothing but boost right? correct me if im wrong........but yea im fine with the high end boost with gas prices now a days but then again my rpm is normally above 3000rpm anyways cuzz of my heavy foot
Old Jun 13, 2006 | 07:48 AM
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also wasnt there some conflict between the camcon and the ecu?
Old Jun 13, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by itsme
also wasnt there some conflict between the camcon and the ecu?
Our ECU is very stubborn and smart at that. I think any piggy back will have issues with this ECU
Old Jun 13, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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yes ^^^^
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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so does anyone else out there have the Power Enterprise Supercharger or is everyone planning on the Greddy and the Blitz? or the gas saving 30 miles to da gallon ZPI turbo?



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