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Old 11-13-2005, 03:25 AM
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can you give me more detail on the fuel return system?
what i need and how it works and stuff.

Now so far i have e-management, spark plug and fuel rail on my way
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Old 11-14-2005, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bomex-bB
can you give me more detail on the fuel return system?
what i need and how it works and stuff.

Now so far i have e-management, spark plug and fuel rail on my way
Basically what a return line is used for is to get the extra fuel that wasnt used and recirculate it back into the tank...its more of a better constant flow for the fuel to give you the right amount that you need on tap with adjustability of fuel pressure. What you are doing is putting a bulkhead fitting into the sending unit in the tank, then running a stainless steel braided fuel line back up to the engine bay to a fuel pressure regualator(which allows you to crank up the fuel pressure a bit), then running a line to from the regualtor to the end of the fuel rail.
What you will need for a return line is about 15 feet of fuel line, a few earls AN fittings, an aeromotive 1:1 FPR and I would get a bigger fuel pump while your at it...might as well change it out to something bigger like a 190 LPH while you got the sending unit out of the tank. I would also invest in some larger injectors if I were you...doing all these fuel upgrades, you will want the injectors to be able to handle that extra fuel.
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Old 11-14-2005, 10:38 PM
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OK so far i have 4 310cc injector

Parts on the way or waiting to be installed is spark plug, e-management, power enterprise 130lph fuel pump, and perrin fuel rail.

Do you think those will fix the problem? is 130 lph big enough?
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Old 11-14-2005, 10:51 PM
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yea, 130lph is fine...I was running a 255lph and that was completely overkill for the setup. You should be alright with that, just look into maybe doing a return line for safety reasons.
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Old 11-15-2005, 12:47 AM
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Has anyone seen the turbo manifold available for the 1NZ from TurboNetics yet? I have seen it available in their catalog and its for a T3. Just curious how it mounts...I will have to call them
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Hopefully its a top mount...Im sooo sick of seing everything mounted in between the firewall...it gets awfully hot back there
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Even if its a top mount, I am still going to go with the supercharger. I dont have room for an intercooler anymore with that new front end...

On another note, I already my hands on the turbo kit for the new ride....HAHAHAHA
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Old 11-15-2005, 11:16 AM
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couple of ?'s.....

ok maybe a dumb one but trying to learn so....do you have to use top grade fuel if you go with the s/c? wondering how different t/c and s/c are

is an s/c less maint then an t/c?

last ? - with an s/c do you need to worry about cooling as much as you do with a t/c setup?

the cooling i was most curious about actually.

if anyone knows a good s/c vs. t/c comparison please point me i will do some reading!

thanks
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Old 11-16-2005, 02:12 AM
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I am trying to replace my fuel pump to Power Enterprise 130LPH fuel pump.

I have no clue where the fuel pump is and all.

Asking for all SL people to help me out on this.

Can someone provide me with step by step or some direction towards this ?
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taken care of ...lemme know how everything works out in the morning
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Old 11-16-2005, 10:13 AM
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145hp at the wheels from 92hp stock. Greddy E-Manage, RC 310cc injectors, Iridium plugs, and ACT Extreme pressure plate w/ full face disc.

We don't have any codes or problems with the kit on our xB. Greddy will come out with a turbo and super charger set up next year. You might just want to wait untill next year when it comes out (BomexbB). It doesn't seem like you're sure what you want to do with the setup.

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Old 11-16-2005, 04:27 PM
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thx for the head up but Im almost done with this...
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Old 11-17-2005, 07:23 AM
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fuel pump is in.

nothing too hard...

but stupid perrin fuel rail wont fit.

the end of rail where the fuel line goes is touching the fuel line hole and it wont sit on correctly.

thx to that i broke my fuel injector plastic and had problem with fuel leak....

good thing i had extra sets of o-rings and spare parts.
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Old 11-17-2005, 10:21 AM
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glad to see perrin did nothing about the rail....

see this... https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=48289
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hahahah stupid perrin.... do you htink they are worth it? Im thinking about returning them.... what do you think?
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dont return it, you will need it...just do what both Dave and I did and cut off that casted end(drivers side) of the block that looks sort of like a hook and you will be fine.
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if you already have it, keep it.

if you want to keep a stock looking valve cover, just grind the hook where it hits....otherwise just cut it off.
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im kinda interested in getting a turbo....can someone give me a "wish" list of things that I NEED to get if i decide to go down th turbo route? how much am i looking at?
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If your not the handy type that is used to being under the hood and would be able to troubleshoot a problem or issue fairly quickly, then I would go with the supercharger instead of turbo but thats entirely up to you. If done correctly, both units can be virtually almost maintanence free. If you would like to see what is involved in doing a complete and "Proper" turbo setup, look in my profile for the xB and look in my power hungry mods. You dont need everything that I have, but like I said, if you wanna do it right you gotta spend the bucks.
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Originally Posted by Bomex-bB
fuel pump is in.

nothing too hard...

but stupid perrin fuel rail wont fit.

the end of rail where the fuel line goes is touching the fuel line hole and it wont sit on correctly.

thx to that i broke my fuel injector plastic and had problem with fuel leak....

good thing i had extra sets of o-rings and spare parts.


I had no problems when I installed my rail from Perrin other than having to cut that stupid fuel line guard. Also, anytime you change the rail you should change the injector orings anyways. Its just added security.
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