hey whats sup im interested in buying either a turbo or supercharger for my scion xb but dont know wich would be better?
I want to be able to fly once i hit the gas not slowly gain speed like the xb does.
im also buying a aem cold air intake so i guess what would work better with it?
and also i have a automatic so is it possible to even do it?

please help i need more speed

 

if you plan on boosting your box, you don't need a new cold air intake because most kits come with their own plumbing for intake.

 

hmmm...

upon closer examination of your post...your 18, and you are looking for more speed...those kind of variable dis-incline me to help you any further. i'll let you do your own research and figure out what is better and hopefully by then you'll sound more mature and not like a kid itching to crash his box while re-enacting scenes from fast and the furious.

 

First off don't buy the intake. Then you have to look at what you want. If you want to go fast cheap then there is nitrous. Works great but you always have to refill. Then there is turbo which is good for top end power and it is unlimited in possibilities. You could possibly make a 1000 hp xb on turbo lol. A supercharger is nice for making a decent amount of power but you can't really get it to make substantially crazy power on a four. P.S. The intake will only work on the supercharger and you would have to fabricate it or buy one that's supercharger specific. Hope this helps

 

Looks like you beat me to it drax

 

harsh... if you want instant power as soon as you step on the gas, get a supercharger. any intake you have will work with the GReddy kit, prolly with the blitz as well as the kit keeps the TB in the same location.

 

both superchargers should work with any intake. I would supercharger it much better daily driver. If you want big power for a 1.5 go for turbo. I personally want to supercharger my xa when I get money.... I want more cornering then go...

 

Hey screw you drax im just asking a question! i never sead i was going to f**kin act like im in a movie. I just wanted some info. you dont heve to be such a *****. besides ure only 22 wtf.shmuck

 

what is up with me? i'm on this forum quite often, and if you go back through the forced induction thread, there are loads of stupid kids who's parents just bought them a brand new car, and most of them want to just boost the hell out of it, and crash it when the start racing every honda civic they see on the road, but they usually crash, hurt themselves, their passengers and whoever else might have been on the road at the time of the collision.

every week or so there is a post asking which is the best turbo kit? how can i make 400 whp? how can i get my car to outrun a wrx, srt-4, mazdaspeed3, evo and so on.

now you don't have to get upset, but to me, teaching an 18 year who just got their car and license how to make their car alot faster is like giving a loaded gun to a kid who has played too many video games.

correct, i'm 22, and i am building up my tc because i take it to do auto cross as often as i can. and i like learning about cars and how different parts and components effect the behavior of it on the track. i want it to go faster more than anything, but before that i have taken the time to learn the pros and cons of different methods of increasing the power output (supercharger, turbocharger, nitrous, mechanical tuning), but before i increase the power output, i needed to make sure the car would be able to control such a dramatic increase in power. that means upgrading the suspension, brakes, clutch, lsd, better exhaust and so on. i have spent enough money that i could have already boosted my tc and made 250-300 whp, but the car would only be able to go fast in a straight line and i would of probably crashed into something.

your 18, with a kid. most responsible parents aren't trying to spend money on making their primary means of conveyance faster. it isn't necessary for the welfare and safety of their kid, it isn't a necessity, and it can be irresponsibly expensive depending on your financial situation. spend money on your car when your kid needs food, clothes vaccinations and toys.

sounds like you have your priorites straight now doesn't it, but it really isn't my place to tell you how to live your life and raise your family.

now, adding forced induction is expensive, complicated and can be unreliable and means additional maitenance and expenses. can you afford that? first the price of your super or turbo charging system, gauges, engine management? installation? you'll have to run higher octane fuel, your mpg usually decreases, and if something goes wrong, which is a real possibility, can you afford to not have your car running and for the repairs or can you fix it yourself while your kid cries?

does it sound like i thought enough before i posted this time?

 

dude, who are you to judge... you know nothing about this guy, i know plenty of 18 year olds who are more mature and more responsible than a lot of 30 year olds, age means nothing... as far as boosting an auto xb with a supercharger, since when is it unreliable or dangerous, i find that extremely slow cars are more dangerous than slightly quick cars, especially when it comes to freeway driving, my supercharged GP got me out of a few hairy situations with a quick stomp on the gas. and just because someone is 18 doesnt mean mommy bought his car or he doesnt have a job that can support his habits, like i said, who are you to judge.

 

ALSO, an auto xB with a supercharger would pull high 7 low 8 0-60s at best, that is hardly race car territory, the suspension on the box is already stiff enough to handle every day driving, and an increase in hp of 140 at the crank at best. the sc would make everyday driving that much easier and bearable...

 

look, my problem is just that lots of immature users come on here and want to play need for speed. and we have all seen posts with smashed boxes and news about casualties of street racing. it is true, i don't know a damn thing about this guy, so i just infer about what i see on this thread. male, 18, wants more SPEED! wants the xb to just fly! WHOO HOO!

what does that sound like to you? does that sound like a mature responsible adult raising a child?

and yeah, the stuff in my post is a worst case scenario. there have been posts of people with problems after boosting their boxes, hell, there is an old post with an xa ON FIRE after being turboed. it wasn't even racing, dude was just on his way home, and there was a fuel leak from an injector.

$h!t happens when you modify a car, it doesn't always work right the first time, and you will experience set backs.

this guy hasn't shown maturity, being 18 doesn't mean your mature, having a kid doesn't mean your mature, asking how to make his box get more speed doesn't sound mature, commiting to spending thousands of unnecessary dollars on your car when you have kid doesn't sound mature.

hell, even that message he sent me doesn't sound mature.

 

i have two kids, my box is blown, wheels, stereo ect... i guess by definition i am immature, i also just spent a year in iraq where i saw 18 year olds making life and death decisions everyday, i guess they are immature as well by definition for being 18... wanting more speed out of a 10 sec to 60 box is by far an unreasonable want. have you even driven an auto box? or a 5spd one for that matter. before i had my box i had a 3.8L supercharged Grand Prix that i modified as well, and i still had kids, i guess that still makes me immature as well... because someone is 18 and wants more speed out of his box doesn't automatically make him an immature street racer who is going to smash his box the first time he takes it out, it makes him normal if anything. you bashed him because he is 18, without knowing anything about him. if he had been 30 would that have changed anything? or 45... age means nothing...

 

whatever, you want to teach him, be my guest, but don't question my judgement when all i have to decide on is an age, and a question.

i love to discuss forced induction with people, but i don't want to put this knowledge in the wrong hands and see it lead to people getting hurt.

and to tell him that boosting his box will be nothing but sunshine and rainbows is a lie. yeah, modifying a car is fun, but if you aren't aware of what can happen, it can be a harsh wake up call one day when you have like in my case, a broken sychronizer from a botched lsd installation. $2000 dollars right there i didn't plan on spending, but the necessity of needing my only car in working order as my livelyhood is entirely dependant on it was a must. my car was in the shop for two weeks, it can be hard to go without your car for two straight weeks.

now this person obviously has minimal experience and knowledge about the complications of super or turbocharging a car, are you just going to tell him to spend a few grand and everything will be gravy? can you gaurentee that everything will be fine, and his car won't blow its engine, or become a mechanical liablilty?

i have no problem with extra curricular horsepower, but there are potential consequences.

 

there are potential problems running NA as well, there have been scion that have sent rods through the blocks completely stock, i never guaranteed that he would have no problems, i simply asked why it is considered unreliable, done right boosting can be reliable, of course there is that element of danger that something can go wrong, but that can happen with an NA car as well, but thats not what this is all about, it is about you attacking people because of their age, that makes you immature and ignorant, and from what i have heard about your knowledge of forced induction, you dont really have anything to offer the forced induction community.

 

and to add to that, this guy has been on this site for a few months and just started posting, his first experience is being attacked, you are what is wrong with this site and the scion community, people like you are the reason i can only visit this site for awhile before i have to ignore it for even longer. and since when does putting knowledge into peoples hands as you so eloquently put bring around their destruction, if anything it better prepares them and assists them in their decision making process and keeps them form encountering bad days... not wanting to share knowledge with someone based on their age is insane... wow, i am still mystified how you think that because you are a few years older you are all the more mature...

 

and finally, if you don't want to pass on your "awesome" knowledge to "some kid" then don't post. dont try to put him down, thats messed up and its not right, this site is for people to learn and share, not to be put down.

 

yeah, i don't have the most indepth knowledge of forced induction, but i have a pretty decent hold of the basics. the differences between them and their advantages and disadvantages.

i would love to take the time to learn more, but i have a final year of college to finish up, then i'll hopefully be able to do some more reading and get alittle more knowledgible about cars.

now you call me immature and ignorant for making a decision based on age. it is simpley a measure of discretion. you were in iraq, i'm sure some of your life or death decisions were based on limited infomation with brutally short time limits.

now lives aren't on the line if this kid doesn't boost his box right away. all i wanted was alittle assurance that this wasn't going to end in a tradgedy. i didn't attack him, i didn't bring his kids in to this.

where is my attack in my first post, i simpley stated that based on the information i have about him, 18, male, looking for more speed. sounds like a potentially volitile combination.

then i said do some research, and if you sound more mature, and not like a kid who wants to crash his box.

mature people would be like "oh, yeah, no, i'm not somekind of street racer who wants to rice his box up. i just don't think a double digit 0-60 time is acceptible. i'm new to modifying my car, can you give me some advice."

instead of reverting to some kind of ghetto pg-13 swearing online.

you post on a public forum, you get an opinion, and that opinion isn't based on an intimate knowledge of that individual and their whole life situation. it was based on the limited information avaliable.

lastely, as for problems running n/a, yeah, they exist too, but a stock xb should run forever and a day with proper maitenance. i know that is a bit of a blanket statement, but the odds of something going wrong with a boosted box are way greater than something going wrong with a stock box.

 

"upon closer examination of your post...your 18, and you are looking for more speed...those kind of variable dis-incline me to help you any further. i'll let you do your own research and figure out what is better and hopefully by then you'll sound more mature and not like a kid itching to crash his box while re-enacting scenes from fast and the furious." thats not an attack on his age? i want to know, had he been 30 would you have said the same thing? that post was totally uncalled for.

 

"I want to be able to fly once i hit the gas not slowly gain speed like the xb does. " he described what he wanted, hardly an immature way of doing it, what he described he doesnt want to wait for a turbo to spool, and that he is tired of how slowly his auto box accelerates, if you have ever driven one than you would know that knocking a couple secs off your 0-60 makes the box feel like it is "flying"... simple fact, you discriminated against him because of his age, thats just wrong.