Need opinions on what sounds better. I own two 12" subs. But putting them in the back of my Xb will leave me with no cargo room. Might buy a 10", will that put out enough base? I know it depends on the type of sub and amp, but overall what are the pros and cons of each?

 

I have a single 10" in the back, it gives the right amount of bass for my likes. I choose the 10" cause i also use the trunk area.

 

I just remembered the name of the company...Audioformz. They make stuff specifically for xBs and I think they're pretty reasonable.

 

get a 10 or 10's. had them before, wish I could go back.

 

If you like your cargo room and don't like bass that is ridiculously loud, then get an audioformz enclosure and a 10" sub. They are kinda expensive though. Here is the website http://www.audioformz.com/comersus/s...?idCategory=69

 

I'm not sure how it sounds, but there was another thread on here where someone has a 2 x JL 6W0 setup in the trunk spare storage area. 150W amp sits on top of the spare wheel cover, and two JL audio 6W0-4 6" woofers are set in some foam or something along the right side of the tire cover.

This is the same solution I think I'm going to put in my xA, since trunk space is at a premium and I have to lug around cgolf lubs, hockey gear, etc. It's affordable (under $300), and should give me just the amount of bass I want. I don't like those huge 10's and 12's thumping down the street. The sound is for me to enjoy in the car, not for the neighbourhood...

Here's a pic of the setup I'm talking about...

 

That setup above is nice, but what do you do if you get a flat? Those audioformz look pretty expensive, but fit the need perfectly. From what it sounds like, a 10" will work perfect. In my old car I had the 12s in the trunk and it came through ok, but not a lot of volume. I think the difference in the Xb wagon is that there will be nothing blocking the volume from getting to me, so a 10" should be fine.

 

Call a tow truck or walk

 

In the above setup with the amp and 2 x 6" woofers, they are all sitting on top of the spare cover. As long as the amp and woofer foam units are anchored sufficiently to the cover, it will lift up as intented to give you access to the tire and tools, and they'll remain in place.

 

You need to check out http://www.elegonics.com

Take a look at their QD-XB-III http://www.elegonics.com/quarterwave...QD_XB_III.html

They can custom build you just about anything, and they can build that box with a removable cover for the subs. If you search around this forum you can see one that was done for one of the members. It was very nice. And they can build it specifically for whatever subs you choose.

I can also vouch for the quality. I just ordered one of the QD-XB-DF enclosures loaded with an 11Kv.2 and a NINe.2 amp for the wife's car. I haven't installed everything yet, but it all looks great. The quality on the box is very high, and included a CNC machined Scion logo.

 

Looks like for that you *will* need to take out the spare and tools, in which case you would then really end up walking if you had a flat.

 

How about one 12? A 12 isnt going to need a relatively much bigger of a box. I designed and built a 1 cubic foot sealed box that fits directly behind the rear driver side seat so that when the other 2 seats are folded, all the room behind them is free. It sounds great with more than enough bass.

 

remember one key point... all speakers reguardless of diamater, need different amoutns of air space to work at peak performance, and be tuned properly to the box they are in... the air space required by each speaker is also different if they are in a sealed or ported box.. for simplicity's sake, lets say you have my set up... 1 infinity 12'' sub.. in a SEALED box with that speaker, you will need 1.25 cubic feen internal airspace - still with me? With the same speaker in a ported box, you will need 2 cubic feet of internal airspace... These measurements are SPEAKER SPECIFIC... before you go spend your hard earned $$ on something that looks good or is practical, do your homework, and decide what speaker you want to run, how much power you want to feed it, and what kind of box set up you want, then, make sure the box you want to use has the correct amount of airspace for your preffered speaker... you don't want to spend $ and have it sound like muddbutt....

 

First and foremost sound is EXTREMELY subjective, meaning what sounds good to me might sound like crap to you. If you are looking to maximize cargo space with an ample amount of sound I would look in to a subwoofer that you can easily remove. I will, for instance, use a single JL Audio 13W1v2 in a sealed box about 1.5 cubic feet of total airspace (after driver displacement). My current box is about that size but it leaks like a sieve and isn't the right shape so I either have to leave the seats folded or it won't fit. If you want a REALLY REALLY good sounding setup buy an Image Dynamics IDMAX 12 in about 1.3-1.5 feet sealed with about 600-1000 quality (not Jensen, Audiobahn, Legacy, etc.) watts of of power that will really ROCK!!! Mark

 

word...I work as an installer at best buy and people always ask me what sounds good and I always start with "I prefer" (and end with ...nothing we sell here, ha). My current setup is using a single Image Dynamics IDQ 10d.4v.2 in one of those enclosures by quarterwavedesigns (I believe) that slides under my passenger seat. I'm feeding it about 600 W and it sounds amazing but I'm not 'beating down the block'...and best of all I have pretty much all of my storage space. Now, whenever I decide to go flashy and build a fiberglass enclosure in my trunk I will finally be able to use the 2 IDmax 12s that are collecting dust in my closet...but I'll give up most of my cargo space.

I know about a year or so ago, the JBL power series amps were considered some of the best value dollar/Watt sub amps available...haven't been following the scene lately but I'm sure the new power series amps are just as good if not better.

 

I had two alpine 12" type S's and that was just what I wanted and more than I needed. I later went to one 10" type and it wasn't as much as I wanted but just what I needed... so if this helps at all I think it comes down to whether you're looking for good bass for your ears or for everyone else's within a half mile radius around you.

 

I'm using one 10" infinity sub in a small ported box with a 250w amp. Its more
than enough thump. I could rattle the hatch any time I wish.

 

I purchased a JL 10" sub and box. Fits in the back over the spare. That way I can move it if I need to, but doesn't weigh a ton and I still have about half of the storage space and the little storage box on the right. From what you have said, trying to put a speaker somewhere else might be sacrificing the sound quality because of lack of air space. I also have a little 300w amp to power it. Now I also have two 12" subs sitting in my room as a high nightstand. I think that the 12s would rattle the whole car anyway, the doors can't weigh more than 10 lbs each.

 

I've always liked 10s, myself. I think you can get better low drops if you run 12s but I listen to rock and metal and 10s always sounded better to me for that kind of music.

 

That's why you add sound deadening...of course you won't be hitting any respectable 1/4 mile times if you do. But then again, with an xB you probably won't be hitting any respectable 1/4 mile times anyhow