NewMexicoxBPhatBoy

Hey everyone, well I changed out my headunit to a Pioneer PREMIER flipdown headunit the one with like dolphins and shizit, and i change dout my stock speakers to the Boston dual with tweeter combo ones, all 4.. the head unit was about $350.00 and the speakers all together were $800.00 pretty expensive.. and I am thinking about getting the Rockford Fosgate P110S4 Punch Stage 1 10" 4-ohm subwoofer... 2 of them, and I am building a "Underseat" storage for them.. but now this, I dont have ANY IDEA what type of AMP to get.. for this all.. Im thinking of building a custom amp rack also to go in the hatch area... so yeah, help me out, im a total NEWB to all this, someone gave me a link to a site that tells all the info on "OHM" and all that stuff, but i have NO IDEA what there talking about .. lol, anywho, please help me out once again...

NewMexicoxBPhatBoy

or hey ,maybe ill get this deal, its $320.00 for Rockford Fosgate Bass Package
P4002 2-channel car amplifier
Two P210S4 10" 4-ohm subwoofers

Here is the details:
Details:

» package includes Rockford Fosgate's P4002 2-channel car amplifier and two P210S4 10" 4-ohm subwoofers

P4002 2-channel car amplifier

» 100 watts RMS x 2 at 4 ohms (200 watts x 2 at 2 ohms)
» 400 watts RMS x 1 bridged output at 4 ohms (4-ohm stable in bridged mode)
» variable high- and low-pass filters (40-400 Hz at 12 dB per octave)
» variable bass boost (0-18 dB at 45 Hz) with wired remote control
» Tri-way capable (Tri-Way Crossover required)
» MOSFET power supply
» CEA-2006 compliant
» preamp-level inputs
» preamp outputs
» fuse rating: 30A x 2
» 4-gauge power and ground leads recommended — wiring and hardware not included with amplifier
» 11-11/16"W x 2-7/16"H x 11"D
» warranty: 1 year

P210S4 Stage 2 10" 4-ohm subwoofer

» molded polypropylene woofer cone
» 60-ounce magnet
» power range: 50-200 watts RMS
» peak power handling: 400 watts
» frequency response: 20-200 Hz
» sensitivity: 86 dB
» top-mount depth: 5-3/8" (without removable magnet cover; depth is 5-5/8" with cover)
» sealed box volume: 0.65 cubic feet
» ported box volume: 1.25 cubic feet
» warranty: 1 year
Is that good??

Looney

You wont get .65 from under the seat

NewMexicoxBPhatBoy

And .65 is exactly? . . .Im not putting that box in, im making my own, you mean the sub wont fit in that box?

Golden86

.65 is the amount of air space that sub needs to function properly. You want ATLEAST .65 cubic feet of internal air space. Under the seat wont get you anywhere near that, more like .3 or less.

NewMexicoxBPhatBoy

damn, so than I most likely need to go with the PUNCH stage 1 8" or 10" sub?

Golden86

The 8" will definitly work,
I used to have it in my fiero, with a .3 sealed enclosure. It his OK for an 8". IF you are limiterd on space, I would suggest the Image Dynamics ID8v3 D4. it is an 8" dual voice coil sub, and I couldn't ask for more form it.

Here is a link to my build thread on it for my Fiero. When I do get my scion, I will be using an Image Dynamics sub, personaly this is the best sub I have ever heard for clearity.

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/A...-1-051244.html

UV7

Problem: Is the amp capable of running 2-ohm mono? It lists as 4-ohm bridged stable, but those two woofers wired parallel is going to give you a 2-ohm load, not 4.

Sciond

yep ^^^
options get dvc subs with that amp and run them in series or get 8 ohm subs

actually your package doesn't seem matched well based on known info

NewMexicoxBPhatBoy

LoL.. oh, well can someone help me out? Like help me look for a system for $750.00 (Subs, amp) stuff like that, just mainly 2 subs and an amp, or maybe even 3subs.. I think the more the merrier (And louder) right? lol.. anyway help me out, If I cant find anything for under the seat, ill just get something for my hatch like everyone else.. I guess

Sciond

well I have 2 8's under my seats and 2 12's in the back.... you can do just 2 8's under the seats and do an amp in the rear hidden cargo area

I can recomend someone to help with the under the seat boxes....he built mine

SCI_TC_GUY

I'd suggest waiting untill the middle of October and getting 2 of Elemental Designs SQ10's... it's a 10" woofer that's only 3" deep and only requires .3-.5cuft sealed.... put one under each seat and put a ED Nine.2x (600watts) on the pair and you'll have an awesome substage!!!

not to mention, you get a great discount for being a Scionlife member... here are the forum prices:

CLICK HERE

also, Elemental Designs has a great forum with LOTS of stereo information and help... Here's the address
www.icixsound.com

Sciond

I saw those they look nice.... I am curios of the sensitivity of it

SCI_TC_GUY

If I'm not mistaken, I believe it's around 87dB

Sciond

ok hmm I was hoping for higher but more cone area over 8's is a good thing

SCI_TC_GUY

well, when you can push 300-500 watts though a single one... that's gotta tell you somethin... I'm not saying everyone should put 500 watts to one, but if you know what you're doing, it's very possible..

Sciond

yeah but then you have power compression and use way more power then necessary

NewMexicoxBPhatBoy

Thanks Sci_Tc_Guy.. that helped alot and those subs are nice, but Sciond, are you saying that i will be using WAYY more power to my ride if i use these? or sumthin.. and if so, if i do decide to get these.. what would i need so I can have alot of power to power that "High-powered" compression thing?

SCI_TC_GUY

2 SQ10 SVC 2ohm subs and an Elemental Designs Nine.2x. Wire the subs in series for a 4ohm mono load and you'll get around 300 per sub which would be perfect and would pound pretty dang good.... not to mention sound excellent

Sciond

All I am saying is when you deal with drivers and you have these ones that can handle a lot power you have something called power compression which means simply stated you will need a lot of baseline power to move those drivers. You can do the same with less power with drivers that do not need as much baseline power when dealing with a basic system. One thing to pay attention to is sensitivity which let you know the effeciency of the driver and try to match all them as closely as possible