ugly_duck

Does any one have these subs?
How are they?
Which one of the below setups would work the best?

Im looking at replacing the doors with these running free air and componant dash speakers.

or

custom box in the hatch with the same subs. and keeping the stock speakers.

Thank You
-Ryan

ScionRI

"It is not intended as an infinite-baffle speaker" - JL audio

It's a w0... a 6.5 inch w0.

Save your money

ugly_duck

I am aware it is not a componet speaker and is a subwoofer. I however want more bass and an under seat box is ghetto to me, i dont want to lose trunk space. I might have to splurge for the audioformz. I hate to spend as much on the box as the sub. Just seems backwards.
O well,
If anyone else would like to chime in im listening.

Notacop

I got the crutchfield speaker adapters to mount my infiniti kappa series 6.5 mids from the components, they have enough space that you could seal it off and it would be a very small sealed enclosure, maybe .25 cubic foot with the speaker displacement taken into account.

Now I have not looked up the specs for the 6w0. So I do not know what size enclosure it needs. If it needs more space you can look into an aperiodic membrane enclosure, basically you sandwich fiberglass insulation between 2 pieces of screens over the hole in the back of the adapters I mentioned, depending on the thickness of the insulation you can tune the box, the characteristics of this enclosure is that it has an EXTREMELY flat frequency response below the tuning frequency with a very sharp drop off at that frequency, almost works like a built in crossover. I made an enclosure like this out of fiberglass for my loast car. The best way to do it is with the smallest enclosure physically possible for the speaker, the adapters turned into an enclosure would be perfect for this.


The downside to the extremely small space you have to give up and an extremely flat frequency response, is that the out put will not be quite as high as a regular sealed enclosure and definitely less than ported or bandpass.

ugly_duck

Im putting in my Pioneer 860 MP this weekend and they i will re evaluate my situation. I may be able to achieve what i want through tunning adn the 50x4 output of the deck.
If not, i'll figure it out and do what i can.

ugly_duck

what about these,
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-qhF25OE...=762&I=237XT65
I would think they would provide a tighter bass along with sound dampening. Assuming the depth is right.
If it doesnt work o well its 20 bucks.

VanillaRice

Sent you a PM.

Notacop

those would not be an enclosure, they are foam, they flex quite a bit, they will keep the speaker safe from the elements, but will actually harm output.


If you buy the speaker adapters from crutchfield, I think they are $20 or so, a small piece of insulation and the screens to sandwich it are damn near free. Fiberglass material is cheap also, it will just take 5-10 hours to build/tune it. Your spending would be not much more than those baffles, but it will sound 10x better

ugly_duck

the will is there but the knowledge is absent. I dont know how to do fiberglass

Boom12V

Make your own kicks out of fibeglass.

ugly_duck

I DONT KNOW HOW TO FIBERGLASS

Notacop

You don't need to know how to do fiberglass.



call up crutchfield order the speaker adapters for the front of the XB.


While waiting for them to arrive, go to home depot, lowes, menards, true value or your hardware store of choice.

Purchase about 1 square foot of some sort of mesh aluminum, something firm but with holes at least 1/4" in them and more than 50% hole not solid (if that makes sense)

While at the hardware store stroll on over to the home insulation, get some fiberglass insulation, get the yellow kind that is in layers rather than the pink that is just kind of a patch.


When you get the adapters, cut enough of the screen to cover the hole on the back of the adapter, it is a 4" or so hole if I remember right. Epoxy the mesh to the adapter.


Then take about a 2" tall uncompressed stack of insulation, cut to roughly about 5" (you want a little to overlap past the hole and onto the adapter.


Sandwich the insulation between another piece of screen about over the hole in the bottom of the adapter.


Preferably take this whole assembly (either in car or out) to a car stereo shop with a RTA meter, have them measure frequencey response, if you see a sharp drop off at anything above about 100 hz then remove a layer or two of the insulation, reassemble and test again until you see the sharp drop off at an acceptable frequency.

That is all you need, no knowlege of Fiberglass


I just checked jl's site and the 6w0 is recomended for .15-.25 sealed enclosures so you could just seal off the adapter, you may need to build mdf rings to space out the speaker enough to clear as that thing has a mounting dept of 3.5"

oneslowxa

.15 - .25 is actually a big enclosure for the doors... when i built a box for my 6.5 rockford, it measured 10 x 10 x 9, pretty big if you ask me... (the sub is not in my xa... it was for my ciivc... )
I don't think the 6w0 will sound good in the doors, unless you do some serious modifications. you will be lacking lots of midranges, unless you throw some 3.5 - 4 inches up in the dash... try running the 860, and throw the 6.5 under the seat... it's not ghetto, trust me. btw the 860 is one of my favorite radios...

Boom12V

I think ScionRI said that this speaker would not work well in a door. I don't I have never worked for JL. I can tell that we make a 6.5" and an 8" that kick some b- ___

Reign_Man

stick some MOJOs in the doors!! lol j\k

Boom12V

Yea just make sure your reinforce the hinges.

ugly_duck

Whats a mojo?

makubex

they are a sub company that do make some kickass subs well there high end subs anyways are good there other stuff is kinda crap.

makubex

sorry the company is memphis audio mojos are there good subs they make.

Boom12V

It is all kind of based on how much money you have to spend and what kind of system you are trying to make Justin. Just because somthing doesn't handle a whole bunch of power and cost a lot of money doesn't make it "crap.
Case and point Justin is Jim P out of AZ is that state record holder fo his class with our PR124D 12" dual coil sub. It has a retail cost of $100.00 dollars.

As for the rest of the product check out the awards we won for our 2005 line up. These awards are give by the 12 volt industry people whos life is car audio with thousands and of thousands of hours of experience in car audio.