So I got board and with all the talks on ground wire kits I decided to make my own today. I did tons of searching on here and from the pics and comments I decided on a 4 ga. kit. I got 10 ft. of 4 ga. wire, and gold ring terminals from local install shop, cost me about $35 for all. I ran one wire from the chasis on right side to the battery, then from battery down to top of trans, then from trans accross the motor(under the valve cover) and over to the first head bolt on the left side, from there the last wire went from the head bolt to the chasis. So there are four wires that daisy chain from one end of the chasis to the other with. I have no pics, sorry I don't have a digital camera. I took the box out for a spin and I was very suprised. The throttle response was MUCH better. I mashed the gas and it took off faster then had before, also better in mid range. For $35 I was very happy.

I had one question though, hooking into the head bolt to ground the terminals, can this mess up the head in anyway??? I have seen everyone else use the same spot, just curious though.

For less than $40 and about an hour of my time it was well worth it. :D

 

I did kind of the same thing to my box but I just replaced the factory grounds with 4 ga wire and I didn't notice to much of a diffrence maybe I should ground mine to the head too.

 

sounds cool man got any pics?

 

u have got to be kidding me my job is being an electrician all damn day and i used to install car stereos............. ur brain must have thot u were going faster it has nothing to do with making ur truck faster dude! it is just a better grounding system for high end stereos u dont even need a ground kit if u aint pumpin out 5000 watts of juice anyways not to be rude just letting u know cuz!

rob

 

$35...I hope you have extra wire cuz it only cost me $15 to do my 1 xB. But way better than paying $50 or even $80 for the same crap.

try and get pix up so other people don't get robbed by such an easy DIY

 

I thought the same thing before I did it. I did a lot of research on this site and searched a lot of posts. There are many people out there that can tell the difference also, and there are also dyno results that show an increase. I would do some research before I make comments like you did... :?

Sorry no pics, have no digicam. It cost me $35 because I bought gold ring terminals and a side battery post for my Optima battery, it would have been about $20 if I didn't use the nicer terminals.

As for the gain it is there, not big, but there. The throttle responds more, don't know how but it does. For those that nock it, try it!!!!

 

cost me about 5 bucks...

the red one that is on the same contacts as the stock ground was taken off...

 

Do some calculations... you should know them by heart if your "job is being an electrician all day". Even at 2000 watts you are running 138 amps ABOVE and BEYOND what the system is drawing... meaning an alternator definitely and better grounding to improve the performance. Better grounding is always a good idea. The performance gains on the car are going to be un-noticeable... but your statement about the 5000 watt system is so far off base it is ridiculous. Plus you are rude as ____ about everything, hence me flaming you. If you are going to flame someone for no reason, then you need to be slammed as well. Now, go get an english book... it will help you write paragraphs that are easily read! Now do I have to put in the "it is my job to have a masters in electonics engineering all day" comment to be rude like you?

 

 

BURN!

Funny the last time I checked my engine ran off of electricity too. Car stereos

 

 

Yeah... he was bashing people in a few posts there... and I kinda went on a rampage against him I guess! You should read the post titled "debadging issue" ,it was finally locked (they edited a bunch of the stuff he said but you can still get the gist) I just got tired of him viciously bashing people for no reason and said something about it,... then he stuck his foot about as far as possible into his mouth.... it was great! I try not to be rude.. but damn, some people need it! ScionDad, you will especially appreciate his comments on that post! heh heh

 

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if you are gonna make a ground wire kit on a budget, just go to any audio shop and ask for scraps. i got about 6 diff. length 8 ga. rockford fosgate wires(abot 20ft. total) for $7.00. tell them to throw in ring terminals too, i got mine for free w/ the wire. brand new, they wanted $2.00 a foot.

 

I'm a mechanical engineer, and have rebuilt several engines over the years, but I can't figure out how an improved grounding system/wire is going to do ANYTHING for performance.

Can someone explain this to me?

Thanks in advance....

 

So what kind of hp or tq gain are we talking about here? I mean if you are going to run an additional ground wire off the battery and have the wire going all over your engine bay what do you have to show for it. So where are the facts that say running more ground wires off the battery will gain more hp and tq? If that is true why stop there, why not just start running as many wire as possible in every direction and start putting screws in the wires at no more the 2” apart from each other. You know for better ground.

 

lol. dude, that was unnecessary. 2 inches apart...lol well, i know it has been shown on dyno's to have gains in hp, small, but still gains nonetheless. i know it has to do with grounding faster or better connection or faster response or some crap like that. basically i do not have an in-depth explanation but im sure it can't hurt, and i would naturally come to the conclusion, with the knowledge that i have with electronics, that it can only benefit the electrical system in your car. if you don't care for it don't do it. never did it on my previous cars and never cared about it before but read about better response and idle so, i said why not? reputable japanese tuners use them and i for one believe that they do not use a lot of unnecessary parts on their cars. i don't really give a damn about the "show" side of it only the performance benefits. there are a lot of things that that tuners use, i don't understand, but if it works for them why shouldn't i try it. they have far more experience and knowledge then i do. i've seen RE Amemiya use these magnets all over(muffler, engine, really all over) on one of his fd's and it made like 40 whp on the dyno. don't understand why and how, but would i use it if i had an fd? yes, because RE Amemiya is the **** and know way more about rotary's then i do. my 0.02

 

This thread explains it in fine detail...remember, we are talking about an ECU and other electronics in modern cars.
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...=29261&start=0

 

mikochu did an article on the different results..not sure why he didnt post them.

 

I just posted his fine write up