oh man i noticed how much vibration i'm gettin from my sound system

listen to some feel good music (golden earring) with the vol set at max and feel the door panals vibrate so much i can feel a good breaze from it its all going blury thats fu*king AWSOME :twisted:

 

do you still have the factory setup in there? or have you upgraded it?

 

100% factory!!!

 

becareful you might blow the speakers because I dont think factory was meant for that kind of punishment.

 

but its pioneer though

 

yeah but theyre still stock. But we do get some pretty good sound out of them.

 

i never figured a stock system could blow its own speakers!? I guess i have just always assumed that when a system is built by factory that it has been set up to be nearly idiot-proof.... that it was only when people started mixing and matching and incorrectly adding an amp that overpowered wimpy speakers that you ran into a destructive situation.

please, correct me if i'm wrong, but i didn't think you could blow these speakers w/o adding additional power somewhere!?

~j

 

Underpowering a speaker will blow it too, if the power source is pushed beyond its limits. (Distortion)

 

that was kinda my point though... would they factory install a stereo and speakers that *could* be pushed to distortion? destruction? I mean... they would have to figure that people are going to keep turning it up, assuming that on a factory system they would create it such that the volume would allow you to go no higher than the entire system could handle.

i'm really just curious... I don't have any proof to back up my theories, other than the fact that i've run my system at full volume on many occations, and haven't run into any problems (except for ringing ears).

Anyone with some real experience in this?

 

I've driven many a rental car with blown speakers. Granted, none was a Scion with a Pioneer stock system, but it is possible to blow factory speakers with a factory setup. That said, I'm afraid of turning my xA's stereo up past 37; I don't know if the warranty will cover speaker replacement. That's the real question for me.

 

awesome

 

that was one of the things advertised for our stereo's. . . I forgot what it's called but it's basically a limiter of some sort that keeps your stereo from getting distorted, hence making it harder to blow. . . we DON'T have one of these. So be careful, because you CAN blow your speakers, as most other cars have this kind of distortion limiter. And even in cars that have them. . . punishing your stereo often under extreme conditions for a prolonged period of time will inevitably blow your speakers.

 

Acura Bose system....BLOWN

Grand Cherokee Infinity system....BLOWN

Stock Accord system...safe cuz I replaced it too fast

Stock xB system...will distort and probably blow if the rest of my system doesn't get here soon enough

 

That's actually a common myth of audio that many people subscibe to. Distortion is a by-product of clipping, but what causes the damage is the increase of average power as clipping increases. If too little power was a problem, we would blow stuff up everytime we turn the volume down (too little power).
If an abusive person were to drive the system into severe clipping, he's not going to stop simply because he was given more power.
Lets say "Buddy" is a knuckle-dragging mouth-breather. His system is either full volume or "off". Buddy wants to buy a pair of speakers and an amp. The speakers he likes are rated for 50 Watts. Salesman "A" identifies him and an abusive listener and wants to sell him an amp that produces 25 Watts/channel. Salesperson B (subscribes to the myth) wants to sell him a 100 Watt amp because you can blow a speaker with too little power. The bigger amp will produce less distortion therefore the speakers will survive his abuse (at least that's what the guy he learned form told him).
Buddy is going to beat the hell out of anything he buys. If he buys from Salesperson A, he drives the amp into severe clipping (and it sounds very distorted) . The energy the amp is producing is like an amp twice it's size (50 Watts). The speakers are rated to handle this and assuming the manufacturer's spec is based on thermal power handling, will be not problem. The heat generated from 1 watt is the same clipped or unclipped.
If he buys from Saleperson B, the same abuse yields output energy like a 200 Watt amp. It sounds very distorted up until the voice coil burns up.
The distortion story has been around for a long time. The problem is, no one really knows what distortion is or how it breaks speakers. There are many people employed in the industry who belive this story simply because the guy who taught them believed it.
A lot of OEM systems use inferior quality speakers and although the system may not be capable of producing enough power to burn the speaker, does not mean the speaker can handle the abuse mechanically.

 

The stock speakers are not bad. The woofer in the door was surprisingly high quality from what I recall.

I had the Mitsubishi Infinity Premium Package and those speakers blew, even with the volume limiter. Of course, that was after 5 years... and it was just a cheap speaker. Odds are that if you listen to your music on max volume, your speakers will eventually blow, no matter how high quality they are.

 

jltd calling someone a "knuckle-dragging mouth-breather" is the best smack ever

 

My speakers will eventually go out soon. I usually get the volume at 35-45ish.

 

wow... i guess i shouldn't just make assumptions like that! Looks like this is just another area i need to look into more.

Anybody have any good links to solid info? ideas on how to make it as *safe* as possible? I'm looking into getting a new hu and sirius satellite radio setup, so i'd like to get this stuff figured out before then.

thanks for your help.
~jonathan

 

i aggree. i cant wait to get my brackets so i can swap them out for something even better!!

 

Was it "Radar Love" Oh, I'm dating myself.