obz

How do you mean that over 7500k is just gross?? Are they too blue, or don't put out enough light? My father-in-law has a BMW 760i and his HIDs SUCK!! They look really cool from the front, really nice and purple, but when you drive that around inside, the lights don't light up anymore road than regular halogens IMO. I just don't want to get some and then regret it.

hahajoey

yea they don't shine well and the color is TOO rich..
it just looks ricey after 8000k.

i had a free set of 7500k and i sold it for a reason..
i had a FREE set. but i really disliekd it.. the road lit up all blue..
and like i just felt like a ricer.

our cars(xb) is perfect for richer colored hids.. so hittin 7200k or 7500k is cool.
but anything over that is not..

i mean some people rock 8000k or higher.. thinks its COOL.. and well everyone gets their own cup of joe right? look at starbucks.. 1/2 shot syrup, double shot expresso, easy on the whipcream.. everyone has their own tastes.. my opinion is to not touch or go over 8000k because its a ricey. but thats just my thoughts.

dgHotLava

noob Q

can you keep both hi and lo beams when doing a hid kit??

Thxs

obz

It all depends. Some HID kits are both high and low beams, but you have to pay for it. There are kits out there that use low beam HID's and high beam Halogens that are a bit cheaper. For the most part I think, if you get a HID kit, your need for high beams goes out the window.

hahajoey

hids are mostly lo-beams only. thats why most BMW, BENZ and whatever has like 2 projectors or whatever or 1 projector 1 reflector.. the low beam is HID. and the hi is halogen..

as for newwer cars.. they have Bi-xenon projectors.. where a glareguard is moved
using magentic force to give it a "hi" flash beam.

but when u put it into HI beam mode. it will turn on the hibeam which is still a halogen.

only the low beam flashes in a bi-xenon setup..

many ocmpanies offer hi/low beam kits for cars.. for abotu 100 bucks more than the low beam price

dgHotLava

the reason i ask is to pass NJ inspection.

they test lo and hi beams...

thus i need both.

ShadowMage

Ok couple of HID newbie questions that have been on my mind...first the above would be a retrofit HID kit right?

Second, I roughly know what D2S and D2R are but...when getting a kit for the xB shouldn't I be looking for a D2R kit? Or am I just totally off? Or does it even really matter? The reason I'm asking is because I've heard the D2R's have a more accurate beam pattern and since the xB uses a reflector instead of projectors (shielded), I should aim for D2R? Right? No? Am I just an idiot and totally confusing myself? :?

JDMxB

D2R bulbs are for cars with Reflection headlights--like our xBs.
D2S bulbs are for cars with Projector headlights--94-01 Integras, etc.

get D2S.

ShadowMage

ok I'm confused then....why do I need to get D2S if we have reflectors? Am I missing something? I mean I know you can get the shields (like hahajoey has done) is that just a better solution? Cheaper bulbs? Better beam pattern? what?


PS - And that was a retrofit right? The quote I had? Yes I know...I'm a complete newb with HID...I'm sorry.... :oops:

hahajoey

d2s are meant for projector headlights BUT with a glareguard they will output better
lighting than d2r.

d2r's are rarely used in retrofit H4 drop in kits because most manufactorers
aren't going to put a "sheild" thingy on the bulb to block light.

d2s is a better choice for any retro/drop in or anything.
just make sure your kit comes with or will have glare guards..

i tried a kit without it on a xB. and it was nasty and glare city. be
very prepared to be hi-beamed every other minute.. lol

ShadowMage

awesome! thanks, joey! Now...lets say worse case scenario the kit I get doesn't come with glare guards...can they be purchased from elsewhere or is it something that has to be built onto the kit? Also if I can purchase them somewhere where would be a good place to get them?

Just FYI, here's the system I was considering:

http://www.autodynamic.com/search_re...xt=Philips+HID

I've bought from them before and they're a good shop. I'm wanting to get the 4200k kit, though I'd prefer a 5000k kit. Your opinion on the kit?

JDMxB

Sorry, I meant D2R--preoccupied at the time.

JDMxB

In my opinion, that's too much for that particular HID kit.

650!?

ShadowMage

Yeah I know it's a bit pricey but I'd be willing to pay it as, like I said, I've worked with the shop before and trust'em. But hey if anyone can direct me to a philips, or any other reputable brand, 4500k or, preferably, 5000k HID retrofit kit for around that if not less (not on ebay if you please) then please send the link my way! (no there was no sarcasm there...I'm quite serious.)

Edit: Well I may have found a potential alternative but...I'm not sure about the brand (Brightstar?): http://www.importhookup.com/store/ca...products_id=29 Anyone ordered from them or know the quality of the bulbs/ballasts they sell?

hahajoey

thats too price(autodynamic)

if u go on ebay right now. bid on the X-TEC kit its like 360 bucks
and its a good solid kit..

as for glareguards, i've learned they work BEST when it comes wiht it.

if its a homemade or put on later thing, its just not as good.

the xtec kit is the same thing as IPF in japan. they come with awesome glareguards that will stop the blinding of motorists, and a sick cutoff. trust me. x-tec is the way to go.

if you wanna spend 650 bucks. u can always spend like 440+ shipping fronm me and i'll go over to my buddy and get u the kit.

ShadowMage

hehe Thanks for the tip! And yeah I was just meaning that I'm willing to spend more if it's from someone I trust...that's all. I'm still somewhat leary of ebay...about the only things I will consent to buy off of ebay are rare and/or very hard to find items (collectors items and such).

Anyway, a few more questions then I'll get off your case. Is there anyone online that sells the X-Tec kit? (other than ebay hehe)

How can I tell if a kit that I'm looking at comes with glare guards at all? Or is there really a way short of just emailing the shop?

And last, what is your opinion of Brightstar's HID kits? The reason I ask about this specific brand is that I know a LOT of people who have purchases this brand and really like it a lot. Do you know if these kits come with glare guards?

Thanks again, joey! Your rock!! :D

hahajoey

well ive personally never used brighstar.
if i had i can vouch for them.. but i haven;t
im not saying their company is bad OR good. im just saying
i never had first hand experience with them..

as for xtec/ipf.. the company i always goto is
KANSAI XENON SERVICE.
located in monrovia.. i always goto HARRISON for all my hid needs.

he;s a funny guy, nice and has plenty of hids in stock..
im not sure on his pricing but i know its FOR SURE under 500 bucks for a complete kit.

i do believe its like 450 or 440? im not sure i forgot.

ShadowMage

Does he have any contact information or a website or anything? How much do they charge to ship?

hahajoey

im not sure if he ships i will have to call him. i only have his cell number so let me get back to u,.. i think he has a website but ill ask.

GotBoxRevised

I went to the dealership to get a routine oil change and asked him how the original bulbs come out, so that I could swap 100/130W bulbs in and the gentleman warned me not to do this. He said he has seen a bunch of cars come in with fried wires because all of the extra wattage so I'de watch what you're doing with that.