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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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How would I go about installing a pushbutton ignition. As in push the button car starts. Push button car goes off.
Old Apr 21, 2005 | 07:30 PM
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Push button ignitions in my opinion are such a waste of technology..
Old Apr 21, 2005 | 07:32 PM
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imo the only things that should have a push button are a full out race car. just my 2 cents
Old Apr 21, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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isnt that making a car theifs job a little easy?

whats the advantage to installing one?
Old Apr 21, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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if this could be done and you have a stick shift, would you still have to push down on the clutch to start it?
Old Apr 21, 2005 | 07:53 PM
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if you bypass the neutral saftey switch no.
Old Apr 21, 2005 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SUPASCIONXB
if you bypass the neutral saftey switch no.
so does that mean you could put a remote starter on if you do that?
Old Apr 21, 2005 | 08:05 PM
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yup.
Old Apr 22, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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Why do so many people on this forum criticize people for asking a question? If you cant answer the question or give positive responses, keep your damn comments to yourself.

Anyways, I did this back in the Day when I bought my first car, 1987 Honda CRX Si (used of course). The ignition switch went bad and wouldn’t engage the starter. At the time Honda wanted $80 bucks for a new one, which I didn’t have. So long story short, I bought a push button switch and wired it to the ignition harness. I made it where you still needed the key to turn on the main power and keep the car running. I used the button only to crank the car over.

On a side note, there are devices that allow you to bypass the whole key by installing a numerical security pad and a push button starter. Would be a neat option if you wanted something different and still have the security of a key.
Old Apr 22, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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I doubt this would work on a tC because of the engine immobilizer. Does the xA/xB have one? I saw the one on the new GS430, that car is tight!
Old Apr 22, 2005 | 07:01 PM
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I too had a Mazda Miata that I just connected a pushbutton between the 12v source and the wire that lit up when I turned the key to start. I don't know about the electronics in the new ignition but it shouldn't be that difficult of a mod.
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Originally Posted by TCRS193
Why do so many people on this forum criticize people for asking a question? If you cant answer the question or give positive responses, keep your damn comments to yourself.
Who criticized him for asking the question? One person stated that a push button was a waste of technology, one wanted to know what is the advantage to installing one, and by what I said I was wondering what is the need to have a push button in a brand new "street car".

Thats all I was saying in my DAMN comment.
Old Apr 23, 2005 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SUPASCIONXB
imo the only things that should have a push button are a full out race car. just my 2 cents

and by what I said I was wondering what is the need to have a push button in a brand new "street car".
Really? that's what you were trying to ask in your first comment? never would have guessed.


Anyways back on the main subject. They make a device that will disable the immobilizer, also you can remove the whole Key issue with this and still have security.

http://www.asianwolf.com/item.jhtml?UCIDs=1068694|1069136&PRID=1263192

Have a on/off toggle switch for main ACC power then add a push button for the starter.

Good luck, let us know if you do it. and take PIC's

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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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that thing is awesome! soo tempted...
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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The reason I asked was just cause I thought it would be neat if I could fiberglass over my keyhole and have a hidden or even non hidden button to start the car. (automatic) Its as simple as that. How many friends do you have get in there car and push a button and the car starts?

I figure it has to work similar to a remote car start.
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 06:58 PM
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Theres no magic or electronic hijinks here. It applies 12v to the starter, thats it. Same as the key does, to add a button and remove the key is cool in a race car because no one is going to steal it. It's either pulled apart, on the trailer, or racing. In a standard car it makes no sense because it is just adding an extra step, you have to put the key in and turn the thing on, then hit the button to start the car... OR you remove the key entirely and just get your car stolen alot. Now, if it is a new car with the push button start from the factory, they've added security in the form of a key fob that has codes in it, and has to either be in a holster or within 3 feet of the dash to start, there by giving you the same sense of security as a key in the ignition.

This is NOT the same as a remote start with your alarm. The alarm is your security and if you have one of these systems, properly installed, once you open the door you have a preset amount of time to insert the key or the motor turns off, and if you hit the brake before you insert the key the car turns off. Also with new remote start alarms you can add them to manual transmition cars, not with a neutral bypass switch though. They work only if you leave the car running and then arm the alarm after the door is shut. That way they know you left the car running in neutral. If you open the door before you remote start the car, it will as a safety feature not allow you to remote start it. That way you don't open the door, put the car BACK in gear and then try to remote start it.


If you add a push button remote to a car with a standard key, what is the point exactly? If you by-pass the whole key and just add a switch to get your ACC and running power, then what locks your steering column? You're basically just inviting theft. Therefore there is no point in doing it on anything other than a real race car, unless it is a factory effort, or you have the keyfob technology handy...
Old Apr 26, 2005 | 06:49 AM
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What about the system like the Prius? Basically, you have a sensor that you carry with you. When the sensor is in the vicinity, it allows you to lift the handle, unlocking the doors. In addition, it allows you to press the Start Button to start the car... However, if the sensor is not on you, it won't let you start the car....
Old Apr 29, 2005 | 04:41 AM
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Hi,

I did this to my old '66 Chevelle 300 Deluxe way back when....main thing I learned from it, was to use high amp switches...the first couple sets of weak ones kinda melted....

Nothing like having the next door neighbor come and bang on your window cause you wok him up at 1 AM tryign to fireup a car that wasn't gonna start.....they ended up moving a couple months later, never did find out why.....

ALSO, for the starter switch, get one of those units with a flip up cover so you dont accidentally push it while you are driving.

I think Home depot sells them now days....they can be kinda bulky & ugly, unless you get into custom designed circuits using relays or transistors, then you could get away with lower amp switches


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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 06:57 AM
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ive done the pushbutton, and seeing as how you've probably got the gist of how to wire it (if not, i have diagrams, pm me) ill start and end by saying;
if you plan to do more than two motions to get the car started (ie, insert key, push button or push one button, then another) you'll become quickly tired of going thru the motions... i made my pushbutton in my acura dual use...so i could start w/the key like a normal car.... or insert the key and hit the start button (i still have the wires/button/relays too; offers?) for show/effect...

it was a pretty badass setup till i wrecked my car..
Old Apr 29, 2005 | 08:24 AM
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you can add "push button" to any car, but you'll still have to use your key. The truly pimped out cars that feature them have keyless fobs, which you never have to take out of your pocket (a wireless key).

Realise that you will increasing the steps necessary to start your car.



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