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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 09:58 PM
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hey everybody my brother has a box and was thinking of baggin it but wanted to know if the universal air suspension kit was good. What are the pros and cons of this kit. Another question i had for you guys is i drive an 04 maxima and was looking into baggin my car too, seen that universal has a kit for altima/maxima for $2300. I assume that the kits for both cars work the same way just different parts. We were looking inti these kits because can get them for a good price. Any help guys. I belong to maxima.org but nobody over there likes the idea of baggin a 04 maxima but you guys got a great forum over here and looking to get some real answers. Thanks guys.
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20 views and nobody has anything for us. there has to be somebody on here that knows about this kit. i know some of you are running it but want more info. any help. plz.
Old Dec 15, 2006 | 03:32 AM
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I was checking that kit out right now too. EasyStreetAir looked pretty good too.

http://www.easystreetair.com/index.a...ROD&ProdID=596
Old Dec 15, 2006 | 03:48 AM
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it seems as if this kit comes with more parts like wire and hose for setup. which one is better. quality and reliabilty.
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I thought so. ebay has it for $1800
Old Dec 15, 2006 | 04:39 AM
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what did you search for on ebay. wonder why nobody else has responded.
Old Dec 15, 2006 | 05:00 AM
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I personal know the owner of unerversal air and I have on of the first kit ever one my xb....Both of my scion xb's are on his web sit...a blk one and rs 2.0 I have 17000 miles on my kit with no leaks no problems not a single bad word to say about them...great product ,great service..great warrinty....great bunch of guys at that company...
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Universal Air Suspension, as with all brands have positives and negatives. Unfortunately for you, they will be about your only choice for the Maxima. There are probably other companies out there, but none of the "big" domestic companies.

The drawbacks (in my opinion) to Universal is what you get (and don't get) with the kit. It isn't as complete as I like to see, and does not include new struts unless you are willing to pay extra.

You can get more complete kits for less money. Do some research in this forum and you can find pros and cons to all 4 of the major players in xB air suspension. Those players would be Air Runner, Airlift / Easystreet, FBI, and Universal Air Suspension.
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is their kit fully bolt on or is there any welding required. we were planning on doin the install at home. is this possible? any big neccessary tools?
Old Dec 15, 2006 | 05:11 AM
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rton20s what kit are you running and where did you get it installed? and how much? what doesnt the kit come with that you say is not as complete as other kits?
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I do a lot of air ride out of my shop and all in all the kit is very much complete...minus the extra set of struts...I have probley installed at least 10 xb kits with little to no problems...as far as welding...you don't have to but Lkie I always say custom starts at the first cut.....PRAISE THE LOWERED!!!!
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eBay link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EASYS...spagenameZWD1V
Old Dec 15, 2006 | 05:28 AM
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thanks for the link. i dont know about buying it on ebay. what do you think.
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I bought some peddles on there, and they showed up differently then what the images on eBay showed (which turned out to be a good thing), then I bought some BMW M3 mirrors, showed up all scratched and gashed. Company wont replace them. Luckily they can be buffed and painted I think.

I'll buy little things off eBay, $1,800? Not me.
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same here. too much money to take the risk with shady sellers. im a complete newb to bags so apologize for all the questions. just trying to get it all figured out.
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I am a newbie to Pneumatic Suspension Systems as well. Check out this post, it helped me out alot.

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=106196
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johnjdm did you get my pm. let me know. thanks. how much did some of you pay to get your kit installed?
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I wouldn't waste my time on ebay if I were you. You can just order from the Gauge Magazine store and get the entire Easystreet kit shipped to your door for under $1650.

And I have not installed air suspension on the wife's xB yet. But I have plenty of experience with air suspension. I was the one that put together the Defenetive Pneumatic Suspension thread. When I get my own xB, I will be doing something a little more custom than an off the shelf kit. But not as extreme as Randode... to start.

If I were to put a kit on the wife's car it would probably be Airlift/Easystreet. I would probably be tempted to put together my own air management though.

As far as completeness of kits, Easystreet wins it hands down. You get every single part needed to complete the install.

With the FBI kit you are short a couple valves as well as being short any gauges. I also prefer Viair compressors to Thomas, and Easystreet's rear bracket design to FBI's.

Universal Air is an ok kit and pretty complete. The biggest drawback is that it does not include new struts, or if you want Konis added it will cost you an additional $550 for front struts! They also charge $165 for a couple of analogue gauges! These little add ons quickly turn their kit into one of the most expensive on the market. Especially when you consider how difficult it can be to find resellers for them. The valves they use are nice, and I used them on my truck. I just think that 1/2" valves that have a Cv rating of 4.7 and can easily handle 500+ psi are a bit overkill on the xB.

And as far as install prices you can expect to pay anywhere from a couple of six packs for help from friends to well over $1000.
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ok thanks for the info but the reason why we have been focusing on the universal air kit is because i can get the kit for 1600. rton20s, your saying that the only drawbacks is that you have to use your original struts but i dont see the problem in that. can you explain the pros/cons of using your struts or using new ones. thanks.
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The biggest drawback is cost. You are paying the same, if not more than you would for a kit that includes new struts. And regardless of what some others might tell you your struts aren't going to last. Your stock struts were never meant to go through as much stroke, or as low of drops as the air suspension will cycle through. They might be able to, but they weren't designed for it.

Out of curiosity though... Where are you scoring the Universal Air Suspension kit so cheap?



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