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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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I was driving in my xB yesterday and stopped at a stop light about two minutes away from my house. I was just sitting there waiting when I noticed another xB in the over lane and right at that moment a rock came out of nowhere and hit my windsheild leaving a 10 inch crack in it. I was just wondering if anyone else has broken the glass, it wasn't a big rock so I'm thinking the glass is pretty cheap.
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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You must be pretty new here... but happy birthday.

You must be lucky it lasted that long. Half of the people on here (SL) don't even make it home from the dealer before the windshield cracks. Search and you'll find all kinds of stories about it. Mine chipped on the highway too, and i have a tC, most of the window problems seem to be related to the xB though.
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 07:32 PM
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Oh and i just noticed, the big 21... Don't be abusing your intelligence by driving that beauty drunk tonight.
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 03:29 AM
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welcome to the "how many have you gone through?" club.

They make non OEM replacement glass with the blue/green tinted bar across the top now... look into it.. it's sharp
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 05:00 AM
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I want a good windshield, but I think I'm going to try and get a freebie from the insurance company, which means ppg
Old Nov 12, 2006 | 02:43 PM
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I'm on my 4th windshield. PPG seems to be a little tougher than the others.
Old Nov 12, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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I have 2 XB's I have only replaced one in only one of my cars but I have been lucky. I found some one to replace it for 150.00 for glass and install had it replaced it with a company that makes cheap glass smg I think Its cheap and the best glass I have bought for any of my cars, and the cheapest They too make a tinted glass I was told!!!! Oh Yeah welcome to the XB Club!!!!!!!!!!
Old Nov 13, 2006 | 03:49 AM
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Mine just cracked the other day after 4000 miles. It was in the lower right corner and I thought it was heading into the bottom but of course.....it turned upwards and is now half way across the windshield.

I take it Scion wont acknowledge this defect? Its not a warranty item?
Old Nov 13, 2006 | 03:53 AM
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i dunno you would think so 36k bumper to bumper.
Old Nov 13, 2006 | 05:20 AM
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I'd be curious to know if folks with front strut tie bars have a lower incidence of cracked windshields. Based on one of vintage42's comments in Windsheild creak = CRACK and my own recent experience (sigh - yes, I've just joined the club, lucky me), I'd guess not.
Old Nov 13, 2006 | 05:48 AM
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Do you really think that a couple dozen windshields that seemed to crack without cause, and several hundred that took rocks, bolts, chunks of concrete, and bricks and broke means there is a problem when there are about 180,000 xBs running around?

I've had other cars that did it, too. Jeep, MG, and Volvo.

We see what seem a lot of people complaining of broken windshields. Most of them are from damage, BUT what we see is no where near being a huge number of instances of spontaneous cracks considering there are something like 12,000+ xB owners here as members.

Glass breaks. Large, nearly vertical expanses of glass whizzing down freeways is going to break even more. It doesn't take much to start a crack.

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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 06:38 AM
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Well, seeing as mine cracked with no visible damage, i.e., no apparent external cause, I thought it was a decent hypothesis that the frame flexing might cause enough stress to start a crack; and that stiffening the frame might help prevent cracks from starting by reducing flexure.
Old Nov 13, 2006 | 06:42 AM
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so far no prob for me!
Old Nov 13, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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Yes glass cracks. However, this is the 1st of 15 vehicles that I have owned over the years where I experienced a crack from a bird bouncing off my windshield. I have owned a Jeep Wrangler as well and never had a crack. Including multiple offroad excursions where the frame was sooo flexed that the doors would not even close.

I believe that the windshields are cracking due to overstress. Whether its a design flaw or poor engineering is anyones opinion.

I think the numbers are extremely high when presented against another vehicle. Take a Honda Accord. 1 in 7 vehicles on the road are supposedly a Honda Accord. I am willing to bet that there are far more cracked windshields for the XB (percentage wise) compared to the same number of Accords.
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maybe we should start noting and file a complaint with scion?
Old Nov 14, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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i guess im part of this club now as well i only have 1k on my xb and when i was driving on the freeway.. two small pebbles hit my winshield and chipped it. i wasnt even tail gating. i was being careful because i read this thread and when it happened..i was like damn, it must be cheap or just the way the glass is shaped that makes it weak. oh well.. I still like my box
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one crack, one spider web, and a few hundred dull areas on mine and its a year old
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No problem, guys, I'm on my fourth windshield: OEM was taken out with 4 chunks of concrete paving, #2 was a crap quality replacement I refused to accept, #3 took a 210MPH rock that broke both layers of glass, #4 is alive and well and has made a number of long trips (just a few small nicks).

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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 11:49 PM
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so is there a specific thickness that you have to look for in a replacement or what? i just got finished cleaning my windshield again and i see alot of little nicks. never had that problem with the tC...mmm, it really might be just be the quality of th winshield
Old Nov 15, 2006 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Gsnorgathon
Well, seeing as mine cracked with no visible damage, i.e., no apparent external cause, I thought it was a decent hypothesis that the frame flexing might cause enough stress to start a crack; and that stiffening the frame might help prevent cracks from starting by reducing flexure.
All of my cracks appeared while the car was parked and didn't have any driving stress on it.



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