2006 xB?
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2006 xB?
I am going to get an xB. But I hear people talk about the possibility of a Turbo version coming out next year. If so, I WANT THAT! 
(in polar white, tint + steelies)
Any news of changes from 2005 to 2006 model will be appreciated. Please post below.
I hope they don't slap a new styled bumper or taillight configuration on.
(in polar white, tint + steelies)Any news of changes from 2005 to 2006 model will be appreciated. Please post below.
I hope they don't slap a new styled bumper or taillight configuration on.
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if they do -who cares?!? you wont hear about any info on the 2006's untill next june anyways- get and xB now- unless they dramatically change the engine- a turbo/superchager will work on both years...
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IF the xB is around at all in '06 and IF there's a forced induction option, you'll probably be able to buy the kit from TRD for earlier years. Toyota makes superchargers for most of their other engines. The xB/xA add-on is probably in development. Meanwhile, Blitz has a supercharger TODAY.
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don't buy an Xb to go fast.
Spend your money on a fast car. I think you would be disapointed to spend $$$ on a turbo car that won't be as fast as most other turbo cars.
It will not be as fast as a Neon Srt-4, won't be as fast as a Subary WRX, won't be as fast as a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution. So what's the point in having a turbo XB?
All you can do is make excuses.
Buy the car because you like how it looks, how it drives, how it makes you feel.
Spend your money on a fast car. I think you would be disapointed to spend $$$ on a turbo car that won't be as fast as most other turbo cars.
It will not be as fast as a Neon Srt-4, won't be as fast as a Subary WRX, won't be as fast as a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution. So what's the point in having a turbo XB?
All you can do is make excuses.
Buy the car because you like how it looks, how it drives, how it makes you feel.
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Does Toyota make a turbo Celica? No. MR2? No. Turbo Solara? Nope. If Toyota does not offer a turbo on their "sports cars" do you really think they will put one on a box? Definitely not ever happening. They might offer a Supercharger eventually as they do for most of their engines but as all the rest it will be a rare occurence to get one on a stock vehicle.
Toyota does what makes money. A fun box car makes money but no one is going to buy a box sports car in volume, it defies Americas perseption of a sports car. Same reason everyone dogs xA and xB now that the tC is out because a sporty coupe is what America wants to buy. Not a quirky sports hatches and wagons.
If Toyota made a turbo AWD xA I would have to burn my pants because no amount of cleaning would get the brick I ____ out of them. But that is never going to happen.
Toyota does what makes money. A fun box car makes money but no one is going to buy a box sports car in volume, it defies Americas perseption of a sports car. Same reason everyone dogs xA and xB now that the tC is out because a sporty coupe is what America wants to buy. Not a quirky sports hatches and wagons.
If Toyota made a turbo AWD xA I would have to burn my pants because no amount of cleaning would get the brick I ____ out of them. But that is never going to happen.
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I agree with maximus. A turbo is actually useless. I had already owned the scion and boguth the turbo because i didn't want to trade in the car to get a srt4. I personally the xb has better styling. But the turbo will NEVER be as fast as a WRX or SRT-4, which if you buy a scion just to put a turbo kit on it you're already spending way over an srt-4 with some power mods, o make it run low 13's.
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I have heard about it. My friend is a toyota regional rep. He was saying something about it. They were going to call the xbt. The xb emblem would stay the same just have a little "t" after the B. They still haven't decided yet though.
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I am sitting at the dealership right now on their computer, 
. We are here purchasing a tC to complement our xB. There is a poster sitting next to me on the wall that states:
TRD centrifugal Supercharger elevates horsepower to approximately 200HP* Available fall, 2004.
The dealer stated to me that if the is installed at the dealership that it will not void warranty. Note this is available for the tC, not the xB as of yet.
. We are here purchasing a tC to complement our xB. There is a poster sitting next to me on the wall that states:TRD centrifugal Supercharger elevates horsepower to approximately 200HP* Available fall, 2004.
The dealer stated to me that if the is installed at the dealership that it will not void warranty. Note this is available for the tC, not the xB as of yet.
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Because Scion products are geared toward trendsetters, it's doubtful that the brand will follow the industry's standard four- or five-year product cycle, followed by an evolutionary redesign. Instead of redesigns, Scion likely will drop models from its lineup entirely after three years or so.
Jim Press, COO of Toyota Motor Sales U.S.A. Inc., says he wants Scion to deliver "quick-hit, fast-turnaround products." But such a limited-edition strategy would pose obvious problems.
"From the customer point of view, Scion's role is to have quicker model changes," says Toyota Motor Sales U.S.A. President Yuki Funo. "But from the automaker's point of view, steel manufacturers and other suppliers need lead times to make new parts."
As a result, Funo believes Scion will use "a more modular approach to product development."
That means using off-the-shelf platform architectures and mechanical components and making the sheet metal and interior the big differentiating factors.
That's the case with the 2005 Scion tC, which mates the Europe-market Avensis platform to the base U.S.-market Camry engine. But the sheet metal and interior are unique to the America-only coupe.
The tC, which debuted at the Detroit auto show, went from from clay model approval to Job 1 assembly in 13 months.
Scion Vice President Jim Farley believes some, but not all, products may last one generation and vanish.
"It will not be a linear product replacement plan," Farley says. "But the big question is: What do we do after the xB? Do we make it evolutionary? It's risky to throw out the car and start over."
http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=8019
Jim Press, COO of Toyota Motor Sales U.S.A. Inc., says he wants Scion to deliver "quick-hit, fast-turnaround products." But such a limited-edition strategy would pose obvious problems.
"From the customer point of view, Scion's role is to have quicker model changes," says Toyota Motor Sales U.S.A. President Yuki Funo. "But from the automaker's point of view, steel manufacturers and other suppliers need lead times to make new parts."
As a result, Funo believes Scion will use "a more modular approach to product development."
That means using off-the-shelf platform architectures and mechanical components and making the sheet metal and interior the big differentiating factors.
That's the case with the 2005 Scion tC, which mates the Europe-market Avensis platform to the base U.S.-market Camry engine. But the sheet metal and interior are unique to the America-only coupe.
The tC, which debuted at the Detroit auto show, went from from clay model approval to Job 1 assembly in 13 months.
Scion Vice President Jim Farley believes some, but not all, products may last one generation and vanish.
"It will not be a linear product replacement plan," Farley says. "But the big question is: What do we do after the xB? Do we make it evolutionary? It's risky to throw out the car and start over."
http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=8019
Scion's story
Now that Toyota's youth-targeted Scion division has cars on sale nationwide, the company isn't worrying too much about what follows the boxy xB, because in the U.S. market there won't be a next-generation xB.
Rather than struggle with the Beetle/PT Cruiser conundrum of trying to update the styling of a car with such a definitive design, Scion vice president Jim Farley says the division will scrap the xB as part of its "disruptive" product strategy of dropping models and replacing them with something else. "The next xB may not look like the current one, and it won't be called xB either," says Farley.
http://autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=100317
Now that Toyota's youth-targeted Scion division has cars on sale nationwide, the company isn't worrying too much about what follows the boxy xB, because in the U.S. market there won't be a next-generation xB.
Rather than struggle with the Beetle/PT Cruiser conundrum of trying to update the styling of a car with such a definitive design, Scion vice president Jim Farley says the division will scrap the xB as part of its "disruptive" product strategy of dropping models and replacing them with something else. "The next xB may not look like the current one, and it won't be called xB either," says Farley.
http://autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=100317
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new better mirror visors
Considering that the only difference from the 2004 Xb vs. the 2005 Xb is the little dinky ___ mirror on the sun visors, and that there may be no XB in '06 or '07. I wouldn't expect much of a change.
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Not everyone that is interested in a turbo charger for the xB is interested in it to make the car go as fast as an SRT-4, WRX, or EVO. 
I don't currently have an xB but I am considering it. I would like to have the option of a turbo charger ... let me give my reasons why;
1. No parasitic drag on the drive train like a supercharger has.
2. Provides additional grin-factor to a vehicle that already produces grins. :D
3. Allows the car to travel up canyon roads with multiple passengers without being deligated to the right hand lane while the 18-wheelers pass you and spit rocks at your windshield.
4. Allows the vehicle to provide the same performance as higher elevations as it does at lower elevations.
5. The turbo will not have a significant impact on fuel economy (as long as you aren't tipping into the throttle too much).
6. Can be bolted onto the existing engine (doesn't require reworking of headers, manifolds, exhaust , etc.)
I currently drive a VW Passat with the 1.8T engine in it. I didn't get the Passat so I could race the car and go as fast as a WRX. I got the Passat 1.8T because it provides good engine response at any elevation, gets good gas mileage (I average 25 mpg in mostly city driving and around 32 mpg on the highway), provides enough space for my 6'-7", 220 lb frame, and has enough room to haul around me, the wife and 3 kids when needed.
The xB has the features I'm looking for ... lots of interior passenger room, is fun to drive, gets good gas mileage, and won't break the bank purchasing one. If I could get the option of a factory turbo charger (covered under factory warranty) that boosts output from the engine by 30 to 50 hp and tq, then that is all the better. I not interested in a turbo charger that allows me to run a 12 second 1/4 mile. I live at elevation and frequently have to drive up and down local canyons. Having a car that can get out of its own way when traveling up a canyon road at an elevation of 8000 ft is a big plus and forced induction allows you to do that.
I don't currently have an xB but I am considering it. I would like to have the option of a turbo charger ... let me give my reasons why;1. No parasitic drag on the drive train like a supercharger has.
2. Provides additional grin-factor to a vehicle that already produces grins. :D
3. Allows the car to travel up canyon roads with multiple passengers without being deligated to the right hand lane while the 18-wheelers pass you and spit rocks at your windshield.
4. Allows the vehicle to provide the same performance as higher elevations as it does at lower elevations.
5. The turbo will not have a significant impact on fuel economy (as long as you aren't tipping into the throttle too much).
6. Can be bolted onto the existing engine (doesn't require reworking of headers, manifolds, exhaust , etc.)
I currently drive a VW Passat with the 1.8T engine in it. I didn't get the Passat so I could race the car and go as fast as a WRX. I got the Passat 1.8T because it provides good engine response at any elevation, gets good gas mileage (I average 25 mpg in mostly city driving and around 32 mpg on the highway), provides enough space for my 6'-7", 220 lb frame, and has enough room to haul around me, the wife and 3 kids when needed.
The xB has the features I'm looking for ... lots of interior passenger room, is fun to drive, gets good gas mileage, and won't break the bank purchasing one. If I could get the option of a factory turbo charger (covered under factory warranty) that boosts output from the engine by 30 to 50 hp and tq, then that is all the better. I not interested in a turbo charger that allows me to run a 12 second 1/4 mile. I live at elevation and frequently have to drive up and down local canyons. Having a car that can get out of its own way when traveling up a canyon road at an elevation of 8000 ft is a big plus and forced induction allows you to do that.
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8 to 10 hp increase from cold air induction
According to my Scion dealer (Scion San Francisco), you only get 8 to 10 hp increase when you get the cold air mod and the exhaust mod.
how much more hp can you get if you got a supercharger? Does one exist or do you just wish they made one?
I do have to agree it would be nice to have a little boost in performance when going up to Tahoe, or down to LA.
how much more hp can you get if you got a supercharger? Does one exist or do you just wish they made one?
I do have to agree it would be nice to have a little boost in performance when going up to Tahoe, or down to LA.
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Re: 8 to 10 hp increase from cold air induction
Originally Posted by ScionX2daB
how much more hp can you get if you got a supercharger? Does one exist or do you just wish they made one?
I do have to agree it would be nice to have a little boost in performance when going up to Tahoe, or down to LA.
I would like to be able to test drive an xB with a supercharger to see how it compares to the stock engine. There are lots of little canyon runs around here so it would be easy to take a test drive and see how it handles the canyon climbs.
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I think the turbo for the xB & xA will be avail. in the spring , along with the supercharger for the tC.
I don't think I'd bother with the turbo for the xB , maybe just the cold-air & exhaust .
That should give you about 118-120hp.
The 2006 xb should be the last year , but they might slip a "limited edition " in for a couple years , if people buy them . Personally , I hope they stay true to their word and kill it off . It's time for a change . Let's keep Scion new and everchanging .
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I don't think I'd bother with the turbo for the xB , maybe just the cold-air & exhaust .
That should give you about 118-120hp.
The 2006 xb should be the last year , but they might slip a "limited edition " in for a couple years , if people buy them . Personally , I hope they stay true to their word and kill it off . It's time for a change . Let's keep Scion new and everchanging .
zinc
