Subcompact Culture

What's the "Toyota Pickup deal?"

RogersHC

I understand it was one of their earlier "rust buckets".

Subcompact Culture

Oh, yeah. Early Toyota pickups were infamous for rusting through.

onemat

Datsuns (Nissans), Hondas, Fiats and many others turned into rust buckets before car bodies primed with zinc base paint became standard by the mid eighties. Ford F100s and later F150s rusted through the fenders, wheelwells and doors pretty easily.
In my opinion, we are spoiled by the improvements made in body quality compared to the sixites, seventies and beyond.
Matt

RogersHC

It is looking like the problem here is related to weld splater that compromises the steels surface protection.

onemat

You might be right. I noticed my welds were neater looking than the ones in the photo of the xB from Hawaii.

tat2dude25

OMG! OMG! If I received treatment like that I would drive mine right through the front of the dealership. Or if it was in the liftgate I would back it through. OOPS sorry clutch slipped! Let insurance fix it and find a bodyshop with a lifetime warranty if they exist there. That is crap, they should fix that for you no ?'s asked. They would be just as upset if it were their own car. Good luck and I hope to hear about Scion resolving this issue right, if not well you can make them listen by my suggestion!

RogersHC

Drining it through the front window would help my psychology but I want to hold out for my pocketbook. I dont want a rust bucket. I bought the car to put on a lot of miles over an extended period of time. This, clearly, is not the car I was hoping to get from Toyota. After arbitration I plan to demand they take the car back and refund my money. I will need to document what is happening with this model to show it is a problem that will significantly lessen the value and safety of the vehilce. I think rust does that and also future rust holes in the liftgate would expose occupants to carbon monoxide poinioning. I would appreciate information from other owners who are having rust. my e-mail is campbellr@woh.rr.com.

onemat

Please post pictures of the problem.

tat2dude25

I just checked mine thouroughly again today and I did find a spot I am concerned about. Top front corner of the rear passenger door. Not rust yet but I'm sure it will be something to keep an eye on. I love the car but I am having minor probs with mine such as rear window trim popping up on the outside and my drivers side front power window/lock swith also popping up. I just havent made it to the dealer to take up these issues with them.

OneBadBox

Here's a nice Car Lounge thread about it.

http://forums.thecarlounge.net/zerothread?id=2438359

onemat

The above thread is about a 14 year old pickup used in the Northeast for snowplowing with rotted side frames. This is not unusual. I had several high mileage vehicles when I lived in Connecticut that you could poke a big screwdriver through the frame! Trucks used for snowplowing with broken frames are not exclusive to Toyota.
Matt

OneBadBox

OK so maybe that htred isn't exactly about the "Toyota Pickup Deal" It is however about a rusty Toyota pickup.

shorberg

5 year unlimited mileage - rust through perforation warranty on your scions is the actual warranty. says on your window sticker and in your factory warranty booklet in your first aid kit. it sucks, but unless it has perforated the exterior sheet metal of your car, it is not covered.

RogersHC

I believe it is a six year corrosion warranty. Regarding the "rust through" provision, I will look to see if it clearly states "rust through all the metal leaving a hole clear through the metal". Could it not mean rust through the paint to the exterior of the panel? Does it have to rust through the metal but leave the paint in place? Ambigutiy should be resolved in favor of the party not drafting the contract. I wonder who has sued them to clarify the question?

shorberg

it is 5

RogersHC

Thank you, you are right. I looked at 6(0) months... that is 5 years. The dealer has ground down my liftgate and painted. I have it in my garage now and hove found another rust spot. I'm getting ready to call them. They wont talk about the "R" word anymore, its always a "paint defect". I guess the "F" word and even the "N" word is more acceptable to them. Strnage business. Thanks again for the heads up on 5 years limit.

myselfdotcom

great they do it for ya
give us an update. if i found any rust in mine ..i brg into dealer...