George

Since leaving the gas cap loose will cause a "check engine" light, it would seem that leaving the charcoal canister off will cause the same thing to happen, due to an open vent condition.

There are so many tubes going into that box that I doubt that it is simply a charcoal canister.

Still, I would like to have a solution. All we need is one brave soul to give it a try!

George

norm

The black box is a charcoal filter for gas fumes. It can be moved without freaking out the computer (ecu). You can put it anywhere in or outside of the car. It has to be rewired and replumbed without any air leaks or pinched hoses. The ecu monitors this black box constantly, so if you remove it you will have the check engine light on. If you move it do not start the car until you hook it back up. The check engine light may come on and have to be reset if the car is started up without the box hooked up correctly. If you remove it be careful to install it correctly. I found this out from my Scion Mechanic here at the dealership. I hope this information is helpful.

Blingin_Lava

I would like to have my spare tire on the back of the scion. That would look good if done right!

George

Very helpful! Thanks for researching it for us!

George

Toy_xbox

I choose to use a full size spare (195/50/15) and show it off, also I utilized the area beneath it to add additional airspace to my sub enclosure. Below is a link to the mock up I am doing, I almost have the fiberglass tire cover finished that will show about 1” of rubber and the whole rim…

http://groups.msn.com/GearheadJr/sub...oto&PhotoID=95

TheScionicMan

Are you running on the Axis Maglites or is that just for the spare? I'd LOVE to see a pic of those on your Box. Those are the rims I want, just in graphite... and 17"

Bicepeak

Hey that would be cool if you could mount it on the back. Just not sure how that would work as far as opening and closing the hatch.

Sean

Toy_xbox

no, just using it for the spare because it is 11lbs. I have the 19" Axis spiders, xBboy (Nilo) was running them he might have pics of it...

TheScionicMan

You'd have to have it mounted separately on a swingout arm. You'd never be able to lift the gate and keep it up otherwise. They used to make an add on arm like that for the Jeep Cherokee after they crammed the spare inside. It would be hard to find a solid point to mount it

Either get a roof rack and toss it on top or wait for AAA...

Bicepeak

You are right...it doesn't sound feasible.

Sean

lavabox

The biggest problem with relocation under the rear is when you have a rear flat, you will need to jack the car up to get it out. I personally would not get under that car with that flimsey little scissor jack and try to unbolt the tire. Deathtrap city. :oops:

ToyotaRacer05

if you have a roof rack, go out and buy a full size spare and throw it on the top... kinda 4x4ing trick, when you dont have space, throw it on the roof... tires, water, gas, jacks, gear, ramps, tools, everything goes on the roof, and bungie/tie down galore