Does a spoiler lower gas mileage?
#21
Originally Posted by itsmethemagicz
very good analysis.
i do know one thing, that all the hicks that drive down the interstate with their tailgate down (while dip cans are flying out) for "errdynamits" are wrong. when you ride with your tailgate down the wind hits the tailgate after it goes over the roof and puts a tremendous amount of downforce on the back which lowers gas mileage. when you leave it up, the wind hits the tailgate and loops around in a circe giving a steady stream. not relevant to the xb, but interesting nonetheless.
i do know one thing, that all the hicks that drive down the interstate with their tailgate down (while dip cans are flying out) for "errdynamits" are wrong. when you ride with your tailgate down the wind hits the tailgate after it goes over the roof and puts a tremendous amount of downforce on the back which lowers gas mileage. when you leave it up, the wind hits the tailgate and loops around in a circe giving a steady stream. not relevant to the xb, but interesting nonetheless.
Hear's a piece of engineering marvel I found on Top Gear. www.ejstreasures.com/main.jpg
#22
For our toasters being nothing but a box, their drag coefficient isn't as bad as one would think 0.35Cd.
Take a look at some cars that I wouldn't have thought would be draggy
0.36 - Eagle Talon, mid-1990s
0.36 - Honda Civic, 2001
0.36 - Ferrari Testarossa, 1986
0.33 - Subaru Impreza WRX STi, 2004
0.38 - Mazda Miata, 1989
Being Boxy aint all that bad =)
Info gotten from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_coefficient
http://reviews.cnet.com/2005_Scion_x...-31352563.html
Take a look at some cars that I wouldn't have thought would be draggy
0.36 - Eagle Talon, mid-1990s
0.36 - Honda Civic, 2001
0.36 - Ferrari Testarossa, 1986
0.33 - Subaru Impreza WRX STi, 2004
0.38 - Mazda Miata, 1989
Being Boxy aint all that bad =)
Info gotten from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_coefficient
http://reviews.cnet.com/2005_Scion_x...-31352563.html
#23
Thanks for all your help on this topic.
I was wondering if there was really any reason other then cosmetics to get a spoiler.
I was planning on doing a more sporty look with the spoiler , the windflectors with my gun metal color wheels.
Now don't flame me, but the other look I was going for is the more rugged looked with a roofrack that I know will cause a decrease in gas mileage. I will still have my gun metal color wheels and maybe the sporttrek roof rack to make it look more like a Subaru Forrester type of car
Thanks again
Knight
I was wondering if there was really any reason other then cosmetics to get a spoiler.
I was planning on doing a more sporty look with the spoiler , the windflectors with my gun metal color wheels.
Now don't flame me, but the other look I was going for is the more rugged looked with a roofrack that I know will cause a decrease in gas mileage. I will still have my gun metal color wheels and maybe the sporttrek roof rack to make it look more like a Subaru Forrester type of car
Thanks again
Knight
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Originally Posted by smokeydog001
Originally Posted by itsmethemagicz
very good analysis.
i do know one thing, that all the hicks that drive down the interstate with their tailgate down (while dip cans are flying out) for "errdynamits" are wrong. when you ride with your tailgate down the wind hits the tailgate after it goes over the roof and puts a tremendous amount of downforce on the back which lowers gas mileage. when you leave it up, the wind hits the tailgate and loops around in a circe giving a steady stream. not relevant to the xb, but interesting nonetheless.
i do know one thing, that all the hicks that drive down the interstate with their tailgate down (while dip cans are flying out) for "errdynamits" are wrong. when you ride with your tailgate down the wind hits the tailgate after it goes over the roof and puts a tremendous amount of downforce on the back which lowers gas mileage. when you leave it up, the wind hits the tailgate and loops around in a circe giving a steady stream. not relevant to the xb, but interesting nonetheless.
Hear's a piece of engineering marvel I found on Top Gear. www.ejstreasures.com/main.jpg
tailgate down is by faaaar the worst.... causes major draaaaaaag.
#26
Originally Posted by knightlife
I was wondering if there was really any reason other then cosmetics to get a spoiler.
At least, that's how I justified it to my wife (and it might even be true ;^)
#27
Originally Posted by pooder
Originally Posted by knightlife
I was wondering if there was really any reason other then cosmetics to get a spoiler.
At least, that's how I justified it to my wife (and it might even be true ;^)
#28
Originally Posted by PakanaHerruus
the rear spoiler was designed to help keep the tires on the ground to help with traction.. mainly for rearwheel drive vehicles.. really makes no sense having them on on front wheel drive vehicles.. thats why i laugh when i see these little honda civics with these giant aluminum spoilers.. its all cosmetic poop.. reason i didnt order one with my xb..
So, wings don't work on MR cars? Why wouldn't a wing work on a FF car? please do explain. Cuz I removed my OEM wing from my old MX-6 and it was squirrly on the highway. true, they may look silly in excess on a street Haonda or any car for that matter. But in general, a wing on any car will stabilize the car a bit, FF, FR or MR. Even my xB is a bit more steady on windy days with my gigantic, ricer useless on an FF car wing.
#29
Originally Posted by JDMJim
Originally Posted by PakanaHerruus
the rear spoiler was designed to help keep the tires on the ground to help with traction.. mainly for rearwheel drive vehicles.. really makes no sense having them on on front wheel drive vehicles.. thats why i laugh when i see these little honda civics with these giant aluminum spoilers.. its all cosmetic poop.. reason i didnt order one with my xb..
So, wings don't work on MR cars? Why wouldn't a wing work on a FF car? please do explain. Cuz I removed my OEM wing from my old MX-6 and it was squirrly on the highway. true, they may look silly in excess on a street Haonda or any car for that matter. But in general, a wing on any car will stabilize the car a bit, FF, FR or MR. Even my xB is a bit more steady on windy days with my gigantic, ricer useless on an FF car wing.
#30
Originally Posted by TerribleTed
...if they only knew as well how much more body damage their truck will take if rearended with the gate down than with it up...
#31
Originally Posted by vintage42
Originally Posted by TerribleTed
...if they only knew as well how much more body damage their truck will take if rearended with the gate down than with it up...
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