No actually smart guy, I wouldnt do it for anyone. If there is no way they would get sponsored, I wouldnt do it. I am not a crook. Just looking to make money on something I can do well and help people out. Wow, that sounds just like having a job.... Performing a service for money... Why is everyone so offensive about this? And sorry to say, but money doesnt grow on trees so sponsors are worth the effort... To me anyways... And I am a business...

 

I know enough people that have had serious sponsirs for their race and audio competition cars to know that they're generally not worth the hassle for what you get in return.

If it boost your ego or your own perceived value of the car, then I suppose it's for you. Of course, it may make more sense just to buy the vinyl sticker if you really want it and spend your weekends as you please without being expected to give use of your car to a company's promotional efforts.

-Jusin

 

it doesnt do anything for my ego to be sponsored. It makes it so I dont have to spend all my money on building my cars. I go to a show just about every weekend as well as SEMA every year and SEMA IAS. So if these companies want my car, it really doesnt bother me, because I am at those shows anyways. And besides, I have a back up car. So it really doesnt bother me. I enjoy seeing my car at a show and people looking at it. And as far as a SERIOUS race team not needing a sponsor because they are a hassle.. You are crazy. Lets see a pro race team operate without a sponsor. It wouldnt happen. Racers rely on sponsors to keep their teams successful. There is always a sponsor or large financial backer. So keep buying your own stuff, and I will keep getting mine for free... It all depends on the person I guess...

 

Where do SERIOUS race team and sponsorship deals come from?

Did someone buy a car and send proposals around, or did they start racing, start winning and get approached by sponsors wanting their name and product tied to the winning car?

Yes, they got the sponsors by participating and winning.

The GOOD sponsorship deals are offered by the sponsor. I've known people to get engineering and design support from sponsors (not just a vinyl sticker and discounted off-the-shelf componenet) in both racing and iasca. The sponsors approached them with the offer.

Of course, those were REAL sponsorship deals in competition... not people shining up their cars for a weekend of 'extreme parking' at a car show hoping to get the most pictures of skanky 'import models' bent over theor hoods.

-Justin

 

again, its different for all people. I enjoy showing the scion. When it comes to racing, I have the supra for that. When I feel like going super fast on back country roads, thats why I have my crotch rocket. And when I feel like cruising around, thats what I have my cruiser for. It all depends on what you are into. You obviously arent into showing. And you obviously have a bug up your ___ about sponsors and people that show their cars... So have a good time without your sponsors, and I will have a good time with mine...

Opinions are like _______s, everybody has one.....

 

Sponsorship discussions are always so funny. "I dont want to go to car show, etc. etc. but i want this and that."

First off, if someone has to ask what a sponsorship is and what it takes to get one, you have no business in go forth with it. A sponsorship takes a passionate individual to be willing work with the company in representing them as they would if they worked for the company. If you are asking for free goods or even at a discount, companies do not just give products out and say be on your way? They want to know whats in it for them.

If you dont like going to shows to represent a company, then dont ask for a sponsorship. If you just want to be a freeloader and get products for free and not live up to your end of the bargin. Then dont bother, as you will ruin it for the people that are serious about shows and building a nice project car. Companies are doing less and less sponsorships because they keep getting burned by freeloading individuals.

Anyways, here is a something quick I wrote for the Scion Evolution site.

http://www.scionevolution.com/sponsor_tip.htm

 

Evidently, so does this forum.

-Justin

 

Basically what I think this comes down to is that people think that by paying $80 to whomever they will be hooked up with sponsorships while the people selling these services labor under the assumption that all they're being paid to do is create a dossier on a car and its owner.

In my observations, this misconception is deliberately fostered by the people selling these services in order to trick people into paying them for something they could do themselves.

 

you are absolutely right. People could do this themselves. But they DONT. do you have any idea how many people ask me all the time how to do the proposal. So finally I decided, maybe I can make some money off of this. But hey, maybe I was wrong. So if nobody gives me any money, then hey, I will still sleep at night. It was just a shot in the dark to see what would happen.

 

I really hope that wasnt a shot at me personally. Because keep in mind, you are only one state away buddy.

 

Wow, he does have a bug up his ___! Scions are for fun and letting people do what they want, not being nasty, if you want to be nasty, buy a Civic you fun ****!

 

Wow, he does have a bug up his ___! Scions are for fun and letting people do what they want, not being nasty, if you want to be nasty, buy a Civic you fun ****!

 

A moderator should just delete this whole post... everyone has to chime in on the rights and wrongs of this...

 

Yes, they should, and I am in on the rights and wrongs discussion, I just get taken over whenever I com in here, and say things I dont normaly, so I have revoked my typing privlages in this discussion, and why the hell did that post twice? oh well, I guess I should move on. and cant you delet it lastlookcustoms? you started it, you should be able too delete it. See you in athoer place

 

It certainly was directed squarely at you, sir.

But you're the one who decided to introduce inappropriate language in a family forum.

Are you now taking it even a step further and threatening violence?

You're a real class act.

-Justin

 

blah blah... Your family hears worse on television. And if they are old enough to read, they hear it in other places as well. And if you wanted to take it as a threat, so be it. Internet forums are getting so outta control. It is impossible for anyone to stay on topic anymore. I put a post up asking if anyone wanted a sponsorship, and look, most of them are about the rights and wrongs of sponsorship. I didnt know I started a "rights and wrongs of sponsorship" thread. O well, my bad.

 

ATTN: MODERATORS. DELETE THIS THREAD BECAUSE IT IS OBVIOUSLY USELSESS AND WE CANT STAY ON TOPIC.

 

You're 'product' is basically a scam.

I'm sorry that the rest of us don't think you're providing a public service by charging kids $80 and filling their heads with the idea that sponsors are going to be lining up to give them stuff afterwards.

Mods, leave the thread open. It would be nice for the kids to be warned about someone looking for scam money from them.

-Justin

 

Actually its NOT a scam. I came right out and said that there is no guarentee on anybody getting sponsored. All proposals come down to when you send them out and how much publicity you can give the company. Alot of times, marketing budgets for companies are filled by the beginning of January. So then you have to wait for the following year. All I said was that for 80 bucks, I can give a proposal setup that I know works. I will not do it for anyone. If someone tells me that they want me to do a proposal but they havent dropped a dime into their car and they are only planning on attending one show this season, then of course, they arent going to get sponsored. And I will not take anyones money that I dont think has a very good chance of being sponsored. But if someone asks me to do their proposal for them and they have dropped a good amount of things into their car and they are going to attend alot of shows, then yes, they have a good chance, and I will do it for them. Basically, I have been getting sponsorships since 1998. I know what works and what doesnt. I thought I might be able to make a quick buck making up proposals. I guess I was wrong. Thats all. I didnt do it to offend anyone or get people all ____ed off and have them freaking out about whats right and whats wrong. I just see all these people going to places like carsponsorships.com (which I did) spending 90 bucks and getting a sponsorship to a vinyl company. Who wants vinyl anyways?? But I am not trying to scam anyone. I am not a newbie on here and I am the organizer of the CT meet on February 20th. I am not a single post person jumping on here to steal peoples money. I wouldnt have done the proposals for anyone and I NEVER guarenteed anyone that they will be sponsored. So how can it be a scam if everyone knows up front there is no guarentee???

 

I didn't get that feeling from his offer. He is not claiming to provide a public service, but rather a private transaction.
If someone out there likes having fun and showing/racing his car, and doesn't want to build a portfolio and write proposals for himself, maybe he thinks its worth spending some money to have someone else do it. It's a service for people who are interested in aquiring sponsorships, one that might reduce some stress for someone.

Theres not reson to condemn a guy for offering a service, and trying to make a living. He is a buisiness owner, why would he ruin his reputation by ripping people off. It wouldn't be smart.
just my opinion