Well i was taking an over pass.... a lil faster than normal (but still in safe limits) and my trac kicked in way too early!! Like i have taken corners before, alot harder and alot faster and nothing..... Also i was going up to massnutten for a snowboarding trip, and i was following my friend w/ some other traffic, cutting through the curves of the mountian.... and agian, trac control kicked in.... but not like sliping from power, as in stability control.... it started to cut power, pulse the brakes, dude.... it pulled me into on coming traffic!!! NOT COOL!!

The only things i could think of is maybe worn tires? allowing a lil slip? Sand on road? well there didnt seem to be any..... thing i should consult my dealer? anyone else have this prob?

 

all of those situations cause more slip thus kickin on the system earlier than normal. when any of those situations occur slow down or the computer will do so for you. you sure no dirt , water , snow , sand , gravel on the roadway?

 

well very little, if at any.... but like i said... i;ve been in worse....
i dunno if something is just flaking out or what.... but it's annoying and dangerous!!

 

Black ice?

 

naw, just a regular road... nothing special... some turns i can crank around, others, trip the stability control.....

 

i believe it also depends on your speed and how far the steering wheel is turned if it kicks in or not

 

just turn stability control off, if your a good enough driver you dont need it anywho, i used to take the mountains in the 110-120 mph range in my other car and it had no traction control or anyting like that, just a competent driver who knew the limits of his car.

 

the trac off button only turns traction control off, vsc is always on

 

yeah what he said.... well i;m not doing +100mph in the mountians.... i was going on a 35mph backroad at 45mph..... easily done, w/o skidding, churping..... shoot the soccor mom in front of me was doing that speed too! but mine sh*t kicked in..... it starts to pulse the break, pulled me into on comming traffic, and really threw the box for a trip.... like the sudden breaking, would pitch the car, put extreme roll on it..... felt UNSAFE!!!!

 

ok the vsc is sensorred by the rear wheel speed and the Gs the car is feeling... i believe there is a snesor in the center of your ebrake consol... whent he speed of the wheels and the Gs the car feels is when it starts to beep at you... but i never noticed the car tryin to brake itself... i was playin around in a parking lot with ice covering th entire thing... it was quite fun but all i got was beeping from the car... it didn't cslow the motor down because iw as drifting around some curbs.... im not sayin im right but i believe thats how the cars vsc kicks in... if i am wrong please correct me. i don't know everything though

 

oh VSC still stays on huh, that sucks, i havent taken my box for any kind of high speed runs, still breaking my baby in, but then agian i bought it to be opposite of my current car, economocal, good looking pimp wagon, lol any speeding in it just wasted gas, which directly affects my back pocket, lol
i dabble about in sensor control and manipultion on my other car, if it is the case of there bieng a sensor to turn on VSC all i would need is a wireing diagram and a list of the sensors range and im sure there would be no problem manipulating the sensor to lets say to somewhat never go off, lol
ill check my alldata account but i doubt they have diagrams for scions yet, if they do ill buy a subscription to it and see what i can come up with, it shouldnt be too hard.

 

It should have kicked in. My vsc was working decently hard just driving 20mph down a 3 inch snow covered street. it helped.

 

the only thing i flet when i was drfiting on the ice was trac when the front wheels tried to slip the trac kicked in and and kept them form slipping thats it... but other then that the back end of my car slid around pretty good... no tryin to correct itself or anything.... maybe this is somethin we all should look into and figure out how exactly VSC works?

 

Maybe take it to the dealership and see if you can get it
calibrated (if there is such a thing). Tell them it kicks on
randomly and you felt unsafe.

 

Well today i took the "fun road" home from work..... I found normal turns at normal to faster than normal turns it seems to kick on on right hand turns, but i can basicly drift it around lefts and not have it do a thing?!?! Say the turn say 20mph, most everyone will do it at 25mph, if your do it at 25-30mph (not that hard at all) right turns, kicks in...BAD!! but take the same style turn but make it a left turn....nothing?! Take the same turb now at 35mph...nothing, 40? Nothing, other than 4 wheel drifts, tons of understeer, and lots of sqeeeling! I'm stumped.... now i know the dealer will to...... what they'll do is take the box, drive it around the parking lot, reset some codes(if anY), and call it fixed..... then the damn thing will do it again on the way home...... just how it works folks!

 

hmm maybe NASCAR built our scions and its their way of teaching us left turns only, right turns are bad and make the scion angry

 

Take it to a dealer and talk one on one with the service advisor.

 

So i guess i'm good as long as i dont turn right.... ok.....


"Make a left here.... Now left at this corner, now left at that tree"
"We ever going to make right hand turns?"
"Why would you ever want to do a thing like that?"


Why couldnt the scion be built by Formula 1?

 

well went to the dealer, told them my sit... they told me "nothing we can do"..... I was like WTF?!? So i'm gunna replace the tires (cuz they should be replaced w/ some good summer tires anyways) and then take it to them and be like fix it or give me a new one.... thats what a warrenty is for right?

 

Me too.

But, with me I think it's due to no traction. Are you lowered without an alignment?

I turned TRAC off, which I expected to turn off the wheel spin, but not the active braking. (TRAC vrs VSC, I thought). Then I did my usual work parking-lot e-brake drift maneuver (WPLEBDM 4 short).

360 degrees later I was way too close to a Volvo in the lot . I didn't feel any control other than the utter loss of it when I turned that off.

Funny thing is, the box went from unable to get sideways to way freaking unstable. I think I learned why it's std on these things! (or, I got so used to having to throw it way off track to get anything going that when I turned it off and did a little less it wasn't less enough).