TRD Shocks with the TRD lowering springs - necessary?
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TRD Shocks with the TRD lowering springs - necessary?
My dealer says I might as well buy the shocks since I'll have to pay the labor costs to have them removed in order for the springs to be installed. Anyone care to argue differently? Are the shocks necessary? How much of a difference do they make?
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The shocks/struts do NOT have to be removed in order to install lowering springs. The TRD springs lower the car just a little over an inch, so I don't think you'll need new struts/shocks just yet. Get the TRD springs installed, and when the stock struts and shocks wear out, upgrade then. Also, shop around on the labor costs to install those springs. The dealer wanted $400 labor to install the springs, and a 4-wheel alignment was extra. I went to a local tire shop, and got mine installed, with an alignment, for $180. BTW, I had to have them use the alignment specs on an Echo, because they didn't have anything in their system for a 2005 Scion xB.
Good luck
Good luck
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Originally Posted by socalxb
The shocks/struts do NOT have to be removed in order to install lowering springs. The TRD springs lower the car just a little over an inch, so I don't think you'll need new struts/shocks just yet. Get the TRD springs installed, and when the stock struts and shocks wear out, upgrade then. Also, shop around on the labor costs to install those springs. The dealer wanted $400 labor to install the springs, and a 4-wheel alignment was extra. I went to a local tire shop, and got mine installed, with an alignment, for $180. BTW, I had to have them use the alignment specs on an Echo, because they didn't have anything in their system for a 2005 Scion xB.
Good luck
Good luck
You might want to double check on the alignment. The alignment specs are slightly different, but I don't know enough to say if it makes a big difference.
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Originally Posted by randode
$180 for a spring install is rediculous. I do them all the time for $50. takes 35 minutes.
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Originally Posted by randode
$180 for a spring install is rediculous. I do them all the time for $50. takes 35 minutes.
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if you were to go through the shop here it is $439.99 + tax. thats for the springs and alignment. i think that is crazy. $180-$200 wouldn't be a bad price to pay if you know it is going to get right.
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Originally Posted by Reno
if you were to go through the shop here it is $439.99 + tax. thats for the springs and alignment. i think that is crazy. $180-$200 wouldn't be a bad price to pay if you know it is going to get right.
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Originally Posted by randode
Originally Posted by Reno
if you were to go through the shop here it is $439.99 + tax. thats for the springs and alignment. i think that is crazy. $180-$200 wouldn't be a bad price to pay if you know it is going to get right.
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Originally Posted by randode
Originally Posted by Reno
if you were to go through the shop here it is $439.99 + tax. thats for the springs and alignment. i think that is crazy. $180-$200 wouldn't be a bad price to pay if you know it is going to get right.
So like I said, I can't say for sure, but your customers could have warranty issues if its not done the way Toyota(Scion) says, even though its not likely.
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This includes taking off the wheel, disconnecting the ABS sensor and brake line, removing the shock, and loosening the rear axle beam, among other things.
Those are probably more of a safey precaution, but Ive installed 3 sets of springs in the rear of my car and have never had any problems.
OH yeah..one more thing....What a RIP off! 4.1 hours?! Even rookies can pull it off in 2 hours! Is that why it cost so much to do a service on the car because they sit around for 3.6 hours and go..ok yeah that looks good.
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I stand corrected on the springs. The shop DID have to remove the front struts in order to install the springs. I remember telling them about the Hotchkiss STB I had in there, and watching them use that spring compressor gizmo on the fronts. But on the rear, if memory serves me right, the rear struts do NOT go thru the rear springs, so they're very simple to swap out. One of the local tire shops here quoted me a labor rate of what it would take to install new struts, which worked out to $80 per corner, plus the alignment. And the dealer wanted close to $500 for labor and alignment. Shop around, I'm sure you can find someplace cheaper, that has experience doing that kind of thing. There's no reason why it should cost that much to get these springs installed...
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Originally Posted by jordanscion
Originally Posted by randode
$180 for a spring install is rediculous. I do them all the time for $50. takes 35 minutes.
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Yeah, most dealers are going to just quote you book time, times whatever their labor rate happens to be. And yes, a good tech can probably do the whole thing in less than 3 hours, even following the manual exactly. When you shop around, just make sure you are dealing with a reputable place that will stand behind their work.
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Originally Posted by jordanscion
Originally Posted by randode
Originally Posted by Reno
if you were to go through the shop here it is $439.99 + tax. thats for the springs and alignment. i think that is crazy. $180-$200 wouldn't be a bad price to pay if you know it is going to get right.
So like I said, I can't say for sure, but your customers could have warranty issues if its not done the way Toyota(Scion) says, even though its not likely.
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