UPDATE: need help ASAP!!!!....car is fixed
right. but regardless...it seems like they can just pin the "abuse" on me and the warranty goes. thats why im wondering if its worth having them take it apart and risk the $900 if they do void it
If I was you, I would bite the bullet and sign. If they charge you $900 to fix your motor- big deal, you F'ed it up, fix it!
And BTW, it will cost more than $900 to replace your motor!
And BTW, it will cost more than $900 to replace your motor!
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Originally Posted by Satmax
if i sign, i run the risk of them knowing that i have ran nitrous.
Look, seriously, I'm sorry this happened to you, but you got to know, you mess with something that voids the warranty, you gonna pay the price...It's just that simple.
Take this for what it's worth but my uncle is a mechanic and he worked on my car all the time (not my scion but my sports cars) and I asked him to install NOS in my Mustang and if there was any way to test for it when it came to inspecion times. He told me the only way to detect it is if it shows up in the chip as a spike in heat, power, speed and if they are suspicious of NOS they would have to do a forensics test to try and find a sample of the NOS in your engine or where you might have stored the bottle. I wouldn't worry about it. Get what they dealer said in writing about that being a common problem with the heads so if need be you could take them to court about it.
Originally Posted by UnFocused
If I was you, I would bite the bullet and sign. If they charge you $900 to fix your motor- big deal, you F'ed it up, fix it!
And BTW, it will cost more than $900 to replace your motor!
And BTW, it will cost more than $900 to replace your motor!
Take this for what it's worth but my uncle is a mechanic and he worked on my car all the time (not my scion but my sports cars) and I asked him to install NOS in my Mustang and if there was any way to test for it when it came to inspecion times. He told me the only way to detect it is if it shows up in the chip as a spike in heat, power, speed and if they are suspicious of NOS they would have to do a forensics test to try and find a sample of the NOS in your engine or where you might have stored the bottle. I wouldn't worry about it. Get what they dealer said in writing about that being a common problem with the heads so if need be you could take them to court about it.
Originally Posted by TJandBOXCARWILLIE
Originally Posted by Satmax
if i sign, i run the risk of them knowing that i have ran nitrous.
Look, seriously, I'm sorry this happened to you, but you got to know, you mess with something that voids the warranty, you gonna pay the price...It's just that simple.
$400 for a used motor with high miles mabey. but then you have to install it. I know everyone on here is ragging on you, but I would suck ___ to the dealership, and mabey the tech is having a bad day and dosent notice what you have done....
Ok so u you juiced it and now its broken so basically you play you pay we all make mistakes in life but some of us just take it in stride. If I were you i would just act like you have no clue how it happened because bottom line the customer is always right and being able to be happy enough to recommend a dealership to another is there best advertisement so they will do what will make you happy and keep you that way so that business moves on. Dealers have mechanics on staff because all cars breakdown so dont sweat it just play stupid
act like you were driving on the highway and you were passing a truck then you felt it hesitating or whatever the symptoms are . Figure it out it will work out for you.
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i went to the dealership and the guy asked me if i did anything. i said no. he said that it is most likely a bent intake valve. they are tearing apart the motor as we speak. we shall see how it turns out
thanks for the support guys. i guess i will hear from them tomorrow.
just if you wanted to know for replacement parts: head=2800, shortblock=4000. so even if they don't warranty it, i dont want it fixed. ill just swap or something
just if you wanted to know for replacement parts: head=2800, shortblock=4000. so even if they don't warranty it, i dont want it fixed. ill just swap or something
I'm really surprised the dealership didn't grill you a little more on this. "Overreving" or not, it's REALLY hard to break one of these motors.
The good news for you is that the service department probably wants Toyota to pay for the work too (they pay more). Most Service departments are not the Gestappo or anything, they just want work so they can pay their guys. They will probably overlook the information the OBDII computer tells them because of that (and they CAN tell with the computer).
Usually when they talk about "abuse" it means "lack of maintainance," not "racing" or whatever.
Now, with all that said, you know you broke your motor and are weaseling out of it. That's some bad karma dude. I wouldn't try it if it were me, but I wouldn't stress my little motor like that either.
Just my .02.
-Alex
The good news for you is that the service department probably wants Toyota to pay for the work too (they pay more). Most Service departments are not the Gestappo or anything, they just want work so they can pay their guys. They will probably overlook the information the OBDII computer tells them because of that (and they CAN tell with the computer).
Usually when they talk about "abuse" it means "lack of maintainance," not "racing" or whatever.
Now, with all that said, you know you broke your motor and are weaseling out of it. That's some bad karma dude. I wouldn't try it if it were me, but I wouldn't stress my little motor like that either.
Just my .02.
-Alex
As a business owner, I am very opinionated regarding "warranty" work. Most people seem to believe that, if they can get away with something, they should do it. That doesn't excuse your actions here. If you have to pay, take it like a man. You made your choices and you're taking your chances. No one else should have to pay for your choices. If you pull that stuff in my shop, it comes out of MY pocket. That's stealing, pure and simple.
Originally Posted by TheScionicMan
Assuming that what he did actually caused the problem. I highly doubt it is the first bent valve on a 1nzfe. Things happen, that's why there's a warranty to begin with.
As a business owner, I am very opinionated regarding "warranty" work. Most people seem to believe that, if they can get away with something, they should do it. That doesn't excuse your actions here. If you have to pay, take it like a man. You made your choices and you're taking your chances. No one else should have to pay for your choices. If you pull that stuff in my shop, it comes out of MY pocket. That's stealing, pure and simple.
i don't believe that if anyone else screwed up their motor by over revving or using nitrous, they wouldnt first try warrantying it. but its in the shop now. i gave them the go ahead. hopefully we can learn from this. don't run the squeeze too hard.



