Just now going over 3000 miles, go Philly and back to Washington DC every weekend averaging about 65-75 on
I-95 and still getting about 38 to the gallon with automatic and with the air conditioning on

 

38 a gallon? i think you might be slightly off. cuz that's pretty much impossible. you know it's an 11.9 gallon tank and the gas light comes on with 2 gallons left correct?

 

there is some tire slip at all speeds and it does get worse at faster speeds. A fraction of a mile per hour? Maybe that, maybe more. Who knows? The speedo will be fooled by that slip, natch.

 

I thought 38 was wrong to, but that is what it has averaged now for two weeks

 

In the little over a month I've had my box, I have put around 5600 miles on it. (My ex-wife lives in Kentucky, and I travel there two-three nights a week to watch my son play t-ball.)

Traveling between Chattanooga, TN and Elizabethtown, KY (right outside the gates of Fort Knox), I keep the speedo between 80 and 85 (this is the flow of traffic in the fast lane), and average 32 MPG. During this trip, I have to go up an over a mountain with a 7% grade, btw.

Just my own personal experience to throw in there. I'm running on stock wheels/tires, and filling up with regular unleaded.

 

I believe you. If I was able to get 35.5 MPG with my seats folded down loaded up with 100's lbs of IKEA furniture and climbing the monsterous mountains on I-17 in AZ, then I can easily see you getting 38.

 

I recently got 34 mpg city/mixed, then promptly drove it 200 miles on the highway at 70 mph and got 33 mpg. Too much speed hurts the box's mileage for sure.

This is all related to the deep gearing. It's the same reason I can be in 3rd gear before crossing an intersection - great for commuting, not great for highway.

 

screw being good for commuting it's the only way such a minuscule piece of crap motor can be remotely fast. racing is the reason for the retarded gearing

 

ha ha for hotbox's direct-speaking


zip'er down?
my zip is UP
with new F1's
so hard and round

my zip is UP
my gearing's down
I zip around
them big-rimmed clowns?

not clowns, those guys
who sport big rims
and blink them sadly
as I zippp'er
'round them
- again-
on my small and hard
and very deft F's
of 195/50/15

I-95 is no longer mean
to my uber-zippy Box!

 

"Racing" in this car would be a stretch. I'd suggest the low gearing is simply a way to mask an engine with no low-end torque.

Are you complaining about the motor? I think it's a great motor, actually; it just doesn't have the grunt of a nice V8.

 

On my car.. (RS 1.0 Automatic).. 3k is a tad over 70mph.. like 71-72

 

about your RS1--- Did I see it parked in front of a speed shop on Bird a month or so ago? Near the RR tracks? I was headed somewhere and saw a very sweet, big rimmed Lava parked like it was there as a customer draw?

I -think it was a speed shop; maybe because the Lava was there- it looked tuneriffic

yours?

 

Actually it does seem to be a great little motor.

It is tiny - smaller than a 2 liter Pepsi...

Considering that I at one point had a 2400 pound coupe with over four and a half times the xA/xB displacement of 91 or so cubic inches, it would be insanity to try to compare the performance of the two.

Considering the basic Scion engine is not much larger than the air conditioning compressor on that old coupe, it actually does a rather amazing job, especially in the xB, punching square holes through the air...

(BTW, when trying to punch those holes very briskly, I have gotten my xB down to 23MPG on one tank... it really had to work hard to do what I was asking of it. )

 

it's a pos as far as most 4 bangers go too. And I need speed so i race whatever i get my hands on .Yes I know thios is the wrong car , blah blah blah , it's brand new , has awesome astyling , will be reliable and was fairly cheap i had to get it.

and the old saying goes " it is more fun to drive a slow car fast than to drive a fast car slowly. "

 

that's because of the difference in final gearing between the auto and the 5 spd.

 

only 23? man I can get mine down to like 20 or 18 .

 

Yeah, but mine's a very relaxed automatic, hotbox05, and this was just highway travel... :D

It's different in a stick...

 

my 1996 suburban got 9 mpg once, and you guys shouldnt be going 108 in a 2500lb car, thats DANGEROUS

 

I will agree with you on that!