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From: Oregon, USA
Here's my take... Cliffud has been a great sponsor to the site, selling a product that has kept just about everyone who's purchased from him 100% satisfied. His customer service is immaculate, his product works as advertised (one way or the other), and I'd glady give him my money any day of the week.
I don't care if he's making keystone (100%) profit on his kits... I'd buy from him any day of the week. Period.
I don't care if he's making keystone (100%) profit on his kits... I'd buy from him any day of the week. Period.
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This guy is a real disinformation specialist. In this thread he says you don't need a relay and seems to be saying Clifford is ripping us off by providing one.
In this thread he says people are getting ripped off if they don't get a relay harness with their kit.
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...r=asc&&start=0
striker, nearly all of your posts on SL are related to HID lighting. With your bizarre attacks on MobileHID and name calling and childish responses to anyone who reports a good experience with Clifford, I can only assume you are someone (like maybe the ebay seller whose stuff you posted earlier?) trying to discredit Clifford in the hope you can then sell your stuff here.
You don't even own a Scion and seem to have no intention of buying one.
People are either here to discuss their current or future Scions or are here to sell something. Which are you?
Go back to your Hondas.
Originally Posted by striker_1818
3)Again, older cars need a relay harness due to the stress being put into the car by the ballast itself. However, newer models have a separate circuit with a 10amp fuse protection for each low beam (read a tc manual fuse diagram).
Each ballast is hooked up to A SEPARATE circuit protected by 10 amps. Ballasts at startup use no more than 8 amps, so you're fine either way. A relay harness is an extra safety feature. You pretty much don't know the product you're selling. And for someone who's been on the hid kit reselling that many years, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Each ballast is hooked up to A SEPARATE circuit protected by 10 amps. Ballasts at startup use no more than 8 amps, so you're fine either way. A relay harness is an extra safety feature. You pretty much don't know the product you're selling. And for someone who's been on the hid kit reselling that many years, you should be ashamed of yourself.
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...r=asc&&start=0
Originally Posted by striker_1818
Relay harness will help in case anything happens.
Relay harness = $25
OEM harness replacement + electric warranty voided = $500 from your own pocket
Relay harness = $25
OEM harness replacement + electric warranty voided = $500 from your own pocket
Originally Posted by striker_1818
can't say the brand but the price was above average. He thought that meant quality as many still do and fall for this false advertisement.
Anyways, what most people don't know is that they all come from the same place and are just re-labeled.
Thing with aftermarket stuff is that there's a 50% chance you will get a good kit and the other 50% you will get a lemon.
The longer the warranty, the better!
However, don't get confused by this "lifetime" warranty. All that means is that they will warrant the product until it dies which is VERY decieving.
Again, this is what happens when a relay harness is not installed.
Anyways, what most people don't know is that they all come from the same place and are just re-labeled.
Thing with aftermarket stuff is that there's a 50% chance you will get a good kit and the other 50% you will get a lemon.
The longer the warranty, the better!
However, don't get confused by this "lifetime" warranty. All that means is that they will warrant the product until it dies which is VERY decieving.
Again, this is what happens when a relay harness is not installed.
striker, nearly all of your posts on SL are related to HID lighting. With your bizarre attacks on MobileHID and name calling and childish responses to anyone who reports a good experience with Clifford, I can only assume you are someone (like maybe the ebay seller whose stuff you posted earlier?) trying to discredit Clifford in the hope you can then sell your stuff here.
You don't even own a Scion and seem to have no intention of buying one.
People are either here to discuss their current or future Scions or are here to sell something. Which are you?
Go back to your Hondas.
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Originally Posted by roXor_boXor
This guy is a real disinformation specialist. In this thread he says you don't need a relay and seems to be saying Clifford is ripping us off by providing one.
In this thread he says people are getting ripped off if they don't get a relay harness with their kit.
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...r=asc&&start=0
striker, nearly all of your posts on SL are related to HID lighting. With your bizarre attacks on MobileHID and name calling and childish responses to anyone who reports a good experience with Clifford, I can only assume you are someone (like maybe the ebay seller whose stuff you posted earlier?) trying to discredit Clifford in the hope you can then sell your stuff here.
You don't even own a Scion and seem to have no intention of buying one.
People are either here to discuss their current or future Scions or are here to sell something. Which are you?
Go back to your Hondas.
Originally Posted by striker_1818
3)Again, older cars need a relay harness due to the stress being put into the car by the ballast itself. However, newer models have a separate circuit with a 10amp fuse protection for each low beam (read a tc manual fuse diagram).
Each ballast is hooked up to A SEPARATE circuit protected by 10 amps. Ballasts at startup use no more than 8 amps, so you're fine either way. A relay harness is an extra safety feature. You pretty much don't know the product you're selling. And for someone who's been on the hid kit reselling that many years, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Each ballast is hooked up to A SEPARATE circuit protected by 10 amps. Ballasts at startup use no more than 8 amps, so you're fine either way. A relay harness is an extra safety feature. You pretty much don't know the product you're selling. And for someone who's been on the hid kit reselling that many years, you should be ashamed of yourself.
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...r=asc&&start=0
Originally Posted by striker_1818
Relay harness will help in case anything happens.
Relay harness = $25
OEM harness replacement + electric warranty voided = $500 from your own pocket
Relay harness = $25
OEM harness replacement + electric warranty voided = $500 from your own pocket
Originally Posted by striker_1818
can't say the brand but the price was above average. He thought that meant quality as many still do and fall for this false advertisement.
Anyways, what most people don't know is that they all come from the same place and are just re-labeled.
Thing with aftermarket stuff is that there's a 50% chance you will get a good kit and the other 50% you will get a lemon.
The longer the warranty, the better!
However, don't get confused by this "lifetime" warranty. All that means is that they will warrant the product until it dies which is VERY decieving.
Again, this is what happens when a relay harness is not installed.
Anyways, what most people don't know is that they all come from the same place and are just re-labeled.
Thing with aftermarket stuff is that there's a 50% chance you will get a good kit and the other 50% you will get a lemon.
The longer the warranty, the better!
However, don't get confused by this "lifetime" warranty. All that means is that they will warrant the product until it dies which is VERY decieving.
Again, this is what happens when a relay harness is not installed.
striker, nearly all of your posts on SL are related to HID lighting. With your bizarre attacks on MobileHID and name calling and childish responses to anyone who reports a good experience with Clifford, I can only assume you are someone (like maybe the ebay seller whose stuff you posted earlier?) trying to discredit Clifford in the hope you can then sell your stuff here.
You don't even own a Scion and seem to have no intention of buying one.
People are either here to discuss their current or future Scions or are here to sell something. Which are you?
Go back to your Hondas.
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From: McAllen, TX
Originally Posted by roXor_boXor
This guy is a real disinformation specialist. In this thread he says you don't need a relay and seems to be saying Clifford is ripping us off by providing one.
In this thread he says people are getting ripped off if they don't get a relay harness with their kit.
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...r=asc&&start=0
striker, nearly all of your posts on SL are related to HID lighting. With your bizarre attacks on MobileHID and name calling and childish responses to anyone who reports a good experience with Clifford, I can only assume you are someone (like maybe the ebay seller whose stuff you posted earlier?) trying to discredit Clifford in the hope you can then sell your stuff here.
You don't even own a Scion and seem to have no intention of buying one.
People are either here to discuss their current or future Scions or are here to sell something. Which are you?
Go back to your Hondas.
Originally Posted by striker_1818
3)Again, older cars need a relay harness due to the stress being put into the car by the ballast itself. However, newer models have a separate circuit with a 10amp fuse protection for each low beam (read a tc manual fuse diagram).
Each ballast is hooked up to A SEPARATE circuit protected by 10 amps. Ballasts at startup use no more than 8 amps, so you're fine either way. A relay harness is an extra safety feature. You pretty much don't know the product you're selling. And for someone who's been on the hid kit reselling that many years, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Each ballast is hooked up to A SEPARATE circuit protected by 10 amps. Ballasts at startup use no more than 8 amps, so you're fine either way. A relay harness is an extra safety feature. You pretty much don't know the product you're selling. And for someone who's been on the hid kit reselling that many years, you should be ashamed of yourself.
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...r=asc&&start=0
Originally Posted by striker_1818
Relay harness will help in case anything happens.
Relay harness = $25
OEM harness replacement + electric warranty voided = $500 from your own pocket
Relay harness = $25
OEM harness replacement + electric warranty voided = $500 from your own pocket
Originally Posted by striker_1818
can't say the brand but the price was above average. He thought that meant quality as many still do and fall for this false advertisement.
Anyways, what most people don't know is that they all come from the same place and are just re-labeled.
Thing with aftermarket stuff is that there's a 50% chance you will get a good kit and the other 50% you will get a lemon.
The longer the warranty, the better!
However, don't get confused by this "lifetime" warranty. All that means is that they will warrant the product until it dies which is VERY decieving.
Again, this is what happens when a relay harness is not installed.
Anyways, what most people don't know is that they all come from the same place and are just re-labeled.
Thing with aftermarket stuff is that there's a 50% chance you will get a good kit and the other 50% you will get a lemon.
The longer the warranty, the better!
However, don't get confused by this "lifetime" warranty. All that means is that they will warrant the product until it dies which is VERY decieving.
Again, this is what happens when a relay harness is not installed.
striker, nearly all of your posts on SL are related to HID lighting. With your bizarre attacks on MobileHID and name calling and childish responses to anyone who reports a good experience with Clifford, I can only assume you are someone (like maybe the ebay seller whose stuff you posted earlier?) trying to discredit Clifford in the hope you can then sell your stuff here.
You don't even own a Scion and seem to have no intention of buying one.
People are either here to discuss their current or future Scions or are here to sell something. Which are you?
Go back to your Hondas.
Awesome write up roXor_boXor, I couldn't have said it better myself!!!!!!
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I don't own any HID's from clifford, but I've been on these forums for a couple years now and all he's ever done was help out the Scion community, hooked us up with good deals, and has ALWAYS helepd out and warrentied his product. Everyone I know that has one of his kits love them and would not go back to anything else.
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The best part is, that without the wire harness, my HID's never even flickered! Harnesses go beyond just the protection of the stock harness, it kind of helps ignite the bulbs and gets them running...
Bye Striker
Bye Striker
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From: Jamaica, NY
@ JohnathonSull
uhh No I do not sell hid kits nor do I intend to. Find me on hidplanet.com/forums for retrofit help. The funny thing is that all such "being a great person and very helpful" is neat to people who don't know crap about ANY product. Once you've been into this stuff for a very LONG time, you will understand the intentions behind hid kit resellers.
Look me up along w/Yanki01 since he's on hidplanet as well. We try to help people in need of ANY HID related stuff. But when a SPONSOR who has a great reputation starts bashing on a particular seller, that on ebay, the same kit is beind sold cheaper, then I'm not going to stand here and be silent since he does the same goddamn thing to every single one of you.
@ trentonm,
You obviously do not know how a relay harness works. Nor do you know anything about HID's so please go read up some stuff before posting.
@randore
Funny because I'm a semester away from having my Masters in Architecture. Working with my B.Arch getting paid for every design I make which is the 10% of the total price. I'm in industrial design so my designs are worth at least 1 million a piece.
Picture is funny by the way and is always true.
@ roXor_boXor
Funny how I never said a relay harness is required but it is an extra safety in case a lemon ballast is recieved. I guess you never read my whole thread. Considering the 10amp circuit low beam for each headlight. Some ballasts when the "smart chip" is tricked or malfunctioning, they will have spikes of more than 15 amps. AS A RESULT, this lemon ballast WILL have an effect on your oem harness. This is the thing about aftermarket, you get a 50%-50% of getting a good kit or not.
The sad thing is that none of you have experienced ANYTHING with hid kits going bad or burning your wires. Most of you don't even know stuff about what this is about to begin with.
To summarize this whole thing, Sponsor bashing on another seller because of profit when it can be obtained on ebay for cheaper and laughing at him in his face. But he's doing the samething and makes himself the victim in here.
Funny how MobileHID was on today and didn't bother to reply to any of my questions. That is some great insight. He doesn't even know what he sells. What a joke.
One day you guys will learn though. Just hope you're not 53 years old owning an xB when you do.
On the good side: Why don't you PM or look at the tC forum, which is where im online the most, to know I'm helping out some local guys from NY do an actual retrofit. Three locals have actually PM-ed me and setup a date so i can help them work on their retrofit since they are first-timers. And I'm doing it FOR FREE. Doing it for free because that is what I do to people who don't know anything, I HELP THEM.
uhh No I do not sell hid kits nor do I intend to. Find me on hidplanet.com/forums for retrofit help. The funny thing is that all such "being a great person and very helpful" is neat to people who don't know crap about ANY product. Once you've been into this stuff for a very LONG time, you will understand the intentions behind hid kit resellers.
Look me up along w/Yanki01 since he's on hidplanet as well. We try to help people in need of ANY HID related stuff. But when a SPONSOR who has a great reputation starts bashing on a particular seller, that on ebay, the same kit is beind sold cheaper, then I'm not going to stand here and be silent since he does the same goddamn thing to every single one of you.
@ trentonm,
You obviously do not know how a relay harness works. Nor do you know anything about HID's so please go read up some stuff before posting.
@randore
Funny because I'm a semester away from having my Masters in Architecture. Working with my B.Arch getting paid for every design I make which is the 10% of the total price. I'm in industrial design so my designs are worth at least 1 million a piece.
Picture is funny by the way and is always true.
@ roXor_boXor
Funny how I never said a relay harness is required but it is an extra safety in case a lemon ballast is recieved. I guess you never read my whole thread. Considering the 10amp circuit low beam for each headlight. Some ballasts when the "smart chip" is tricked or malfunctioning, they will have spikes of more than 15 amps. AS A RESULT, this lemon ballast WILL have an effect on your oem harness. This is the thing about aftermarket, you get a 50%-50% of getting a good kit or not.
The sad thing is that none of you have experienced ANYTHING with hid kits going bad or burning your wires. Most of you don't even know stuff about what this is about to begin with.
To summarize this whole thing, Sponsor bashing on another seller because of profit when it can be obtained on ebay for cheaper and laughing at him in his face. But he's doing the samething and makes himself the victim in here.
Funny how MobileHID was on today and didn't bother to reply to any of my questions. That is some great insight. He doesn't even know what he sells. What a joke.
One day you guys will learn though. Just hope you're not 53 years old owning an xB when you do.
On the good side: Why don't you PM or look at the tC forum, which is where im online the most, to know I'm helping out some local guys from NY do an actual retrofit. Three locals have actually PM-ed me and setup a date so i can help them work on their retrofit since they are first-timers. And I'm doing it FOR FREE. Doing it for free because that is what I do to people who don't know anything, I HELP THEM.
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Originally Posted by Artsx
i read somewhere that you can put hid on your fogs, can anyone confirm this, and if so how much and where can i order them, i want yellow hid fogs, thanks,
yes you can! Keoki has them as well as myself. www.mobilehid.com
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Originally Posted by randode
if this site was any good, the mods would have locked this days ago.
Saw some rumor the site had been sold. Know if there is any truth to that? Might explain the lack of mods.
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Ya, Seriously, Cliff at mobilehid.com is the best. The guy is one of the most helpful retailers i have ever dealt with. I know from personal experiecnce, you will not find a product this cheap with the quality this good, combined with the great customer service. This company is a rare find in the retail business these days.
Bump for Cliff!
You ROCK!
Bump for Cliff!
You ROCK!
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From: Anaheim, CA
Originally Posted by Whispaz
good thing about mobilehids kits are that they have a fuse.
and the price has actually dropped to $140 shipped now
and the price has actually dropped to $140 shipped now
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There's nothing wrong with the discussion as long as everyone keeps it clean and doesn't resort to personal attacks. If this was in Sponsored Sales it would be hijacking a sales topic, but it's not in SS.
Please refrain from the personal attacks and inappropriate content.
Please refrain from the personal attacks and inappropriate content.
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From: Cypress CA
Hey Guys,
So Im here at work, wanting to order from mobileHID.com, but my company blocks they're website so I can get on. If anyone here could be a pal and maybe post an e-mail address or phone number for them I would greatly appreciate it.
I just don't want to wait until tonight to place an order!
Thanks!
So Im here at work, wanting to order from mobileHID.com, but my company blocks they're website so I can get on. If anyone here could be a pal and maybe post an e-mail address or phone number for them I would greatly appreciate it.
I just don't want to wait until tonight to place an order!
Thanks!
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From: Cypress CA
Got my HIDs today, installed them this evening. All I can say is .....WOW!
I went with Mobile HIDs 4300k set up. Awesome product. Install was VERY easy, 30 mins tops. I did screw up at first and thought that I had bought the wrong bulbs, since I was attempting to install them in place of the high beams! The light output is amazing vs. halogen.
Clifford caught another mistake I made. I placed my order directly through mobilehid.com, and didn't even realize that he was running a special for scionlife.com members. He graciously adjusted the price, and I didn't even ask!
This simple and honest gesture further validates all of the great comments about Clifford and Mobile HID customer service.
Thanks!
I went with Mobile HIDs 4300k set up. Awesome product. Install was VERY easy, 30 mins tops. I did screw up at first and thought that I had bought the wrong bulbs, since I was attempting to install them in place of the high beams! The light output is amazing vs. halogen.
Clifford caught another mistake I made. I placed my order directly through mobilehid.com, and didn't even realize that he was running a special for scionlife.com members. He graciously adjusted the price, and I didn't even ask!
This simple and honest gesture further validates all of the great comments about Clifford and Mobile HID customer service.
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Artsx
i read somewhere that you can put hid on your fogs, can anyone confirm this, and if so how much and where can i order them, i want yellow hid fogs, thanks,
Working on an es300 fog retrofit for the tC.
Got the components but i've been busy with work and finals.
Should be starting this after xmas and get some shots.
Here are some pictures of the es300 projectors(they have yellow lenses)
As far as converting these h3 fogs into HID's, I will be using H3c hid bulbs (they're not your typical rebased D2S long bulbs but rather H3C modified to handle HID's). H3C bulbs have the same focal point as to where the arc begins. Since they're similar in size and focal point, light distribution will be even.