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Old Sep 4, 2012 | 07:20 PM
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Checking your oil is high maintenance?
If you have a wife/girlfriend and have a busy job, do you expect your wife/girlfriend to check the oil every time they gas up? At least I wouldn't and I don't have the time to check myself. I've owned a lot of cars and the only car that consumed enough oil to where you had to add anything was my E92 M3. But that's a high performance car and it told you when you needed to add oil. So why doesn't the Scion warn you when your oil gets to the point where you need to add some oil? These days, most people expect to be able to go oil change to oil change without adding oil or having to check the dipstick every time they get gas.
Old Sep 4, 2012 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Malibu_Rapper
If you have a wife/girlfriend and have a busy job, do you expect your wife/girlfriend to check the oil every time they gas up?
No, I would expect myself to do it (as I do now). You do come home and leave to work at some point right? You mean to tell me you can't find less than 5 minutes in between?

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At least I wouldn't and I don't have the time to check myself. I've owned a lot of cars and the only car that consumed enough oil to where you had to add anything was my E92 M3. But that's a high performance car and it told you when you needed to add oil. So why doesn't the Scion warn you when your oil gets to the point where you need to add some oil? These days, most people expect to be able to go oil change to oil change without adding oil or having to check the dipstick every time they get gas.
I've had cars that consume oil (Hondas) so to me its second nature.

I think it does warn you, it has a low oil light IIRC. Still, you shouldn't rely on a light, you should be responsible enough to check it on your own.

People expect too much and are too lazy, thanks for making my point. BTW I think someone on newscionxb.com made a thread about using Shell Rotella oil and it did help oil consumption. Might want to try that.
Old Sep 4, 2012 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ScionFred
Dude, if you're one of the infinitesimally few who actually have a 2AZFE that consumes excessive oil through no fault of yours, that truly does suck for you. You have my sympathy. However you are very clearly confusing your own quite rare problem with a systemic one based solely upon a TSB written only to offer dealers some guidance on how to handle the sort of occurance that can happen when you produce and sell many millions of engines over the course of 13 years.
so true

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The bottom line is that there IS a problem and Toyota admitted it!!!! Just won't fix it out of warranty! .
NOT TRUE, while we don't see any more TC's or XB's with this issue we do get quite a few RAV4's that come in out of warranty(2008's especially) and customers walk out only paying for labor or in some cases NOTHING at all when they have had ALL their services done at dealership.....
Old Sep 5, 2012 | 02:13 PM
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How many here had "ALL" their services done at the Stealership please raise their hands!!!!!!

How many people trust their dealers to just do a simple oil change?

I rest my case!!!

Just put in a thicker weight oil and you will burn less oil, just like my grandfathers Oldsmobile from the 50"s. lol
Old Sep 5, 2012 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by xbscion
Just put in a thicker weight oil and you will burn less oil, just like my grandfathers Oldsmobile from the 50"s. lol
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I was using Mobile 1, 5/20 , changed to Castrol GTX 5/30 oil and "only" used 3/4 of a qt of oil in 5k.
It appears the use thicker oil method has been working for you according to you. What's your point?

Are you seriously complaining about 3/4 of a qt in 5k miles? Buy a 5+ qt jug from Walmart and use the left over when you need to top off. Or this that another issue since you can't check your own oil?
Old Sep 5, 2012 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by xbscion
How many here had "ALL" their services done at the Stealership please raise their hands!!!!!!

How many people trust their dealers to just do a simple oil change?

I rest my case!!!
guess you just summed up why toyota refuses to pay for engine claims. NO sevice's done at dealer means they have no reason to pay for your engine after 36K......
Old Sep 5, 2012 | 08:31 PM
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If you think that using 3/4 of a qt. of oil is ok, then you don't know what quality is my friend!

Maybe ROCKLAND can list some of the work orders showing those 2.4 engines that were repaired for "Free", It might help some others when making a claim.

***** in your court, show us those "freebies".
Old Sep 5, 2012 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by xbscion
If you think that using 3/4 of a qt. of oil is ok, then you don't know what quality is my friend!
Not sure if trollin or just ignorant...Either way just stop posting because you're making yourself look more and more clueless.

Do you consider Honda's engines quality? How about that new Ford Coyote 5.0? GM's LSx engines?

Guess what...THEY USE OIL!
Old Sep 5, 2012 | 11:25 PM
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AAG.! Nothing better to do than defend your little xB? Your examples of other engines using oil just makes my point about quality. If you are willing to settle for less, good for you, others have higher standards. I guess the xB are just as bad/or good as they are? Really?

I can only compare the cars that I've had in the past and none of them burned oil that you would notice on the dip stick! That sir is a quality product!

My xB burns oil, yours doesn't, now get over it!

Another example of people attacking another person (calling them trolls, or ignorant) when they don't get their way! How typical and sad!

Sorry, I didn't notice that you have "one" of only 2528 built. I guess you are
"SPECIAL"! ROFLMAO

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Old Sep 6, 2012 | 01:35 AM
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You are whining about something so minor that it makes you look pathetic.

I wouldnt be settling for less if I did have oil consumption issues, but I also wouldnt be crying about adding oil to my engine like its the end of the world.

Trade in your xB and buy something else. Clearly you know about some magical car on the market that cost $17k new that is 100% flawless.

Thanks for noticing my sig, clearly someone is a little butthurt that Im calling out their childish tantrums.
Old Sep 6, 2012 | 01:50 AM
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I'm not whining, I'm stating facts and the fact is my xB stinks when it comes to engine quality! You don't want to face the facts that the only reason I have cut down the oil compsumption is that I'm adding a 30 weight oil or else it's worse.

Trade in the car! Really! If that's the best advise you can give stay away from the threads dealing with problems.

As far as your "Sig", you are the one that wants people to know what you have, who cares except maybe your mother when she says you are special!

Now, stop answering posts that you have no first hand experience with unless your little xB is burning oil! Is it?

Now, go away, you have no knowledge of what you speak on this TSB!
Old Sep 6, 2012 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by xbscion
I'm still whining, my xB stinks when it comes to engine quality!

Now, go away, you have no knowledge of what you speak on this TSB!
There... I fixed your post for you and may I suggest that you follow your own advice before looking even more foolish than you already do?

You know what they say... better late than never.
Old Sep 6, 2012 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by xbscion
Maybe ROCKLAND can list some of the work orders showing those 2.4 engines that were repaired for "Free", It might help some others when making a claim.

***** in your court, show us those "freebies".
SORRY CHARLIE that would be a NO NO.....

that is a violation of personal info and is subject to LEGAL issues for the dealership!!!! YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT SILLY......

if you can't understand what SERVICE HISTORY means then you my friend are S.O.L. Doing curbside oil changes and then crying about missing oil isn't gonna buy you squat in a court of law without a paper trail!

Here's your BALL back, i suggest you take it and go home......
Old Sep 6, 2012 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by xbscion
I'm not whining, I'm stating facts and the fact is my xB stinks when it comes to engine quality! You don't want to face the facts that the only reason I have cut down the oil compsumption is that I'm adding a 30 weight oil or else it's worse.

Trade in the car! Really! If that's the best advise you can give stay away from the threads dealing with problems.

As far as your "Sig", you are the one that wants people to know what you have, who cares except maybe your mother when she says you are special!

Now, stop answering posts that you have no first hand experience with unless your little xB is burning oil! Is it?

Now, go away, you have no knowledge of what you speak on this TSB!
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Old Sep 6, 2012 | 12:33 PM
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xbscion stop posting, Ive already explained to you how to help your oil consumption. All you keep doing is ranting over and over and whining about how oil use by an engine = terrible quality.

Again, where is that $17k brand new 100% flawless car I challenged you to find? I'm still waiting...
Old Sep 6, 2012 | 01:07 PM
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AAG, the oil consumption problem that Toyota listed in their TSB is for the RAV-4, Solara, Camry. Which of those vehicles cost 17K new? It's a quality issue not a price issue. I guess you like poor quality or never had a good quality vehicle!

To those people that come here for help with your xB using oil, you won't find the answers here.. I guess they are worried about resell value or just can't stand to hear bad things about their "special" one off xB's!! lololololololol

Enough, you guys can have the last word, I'm late for my golf tee!!

Have a nice day!
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You keep back-pedaling as usual. I'm talking about the xB specific. If the only issue you're having with it is adding less than 1 qt of oil in 5k miles, all you're doing is nitpicking because you are too lazy to add oil.

What so called "quality" cars have you owned? I'm sure it won't take me long to disscet it's known issues. Sure YOU may not have had issues with your cars, that doesn't mean every single one made of that specific model is 100% problem free.

Just like I dont have oil consumption, but I had the waterpump and engine wireharness replaced in the first two years of ownership. Some others didnt have this issue.

Some xb2 owners had wheel bearing and coilpack issues, I didnt. You see where Im going?

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Originally Posted by xbscion
AAG, the oil consumption problem that Toyota listed in their TSB is for the RAV-4, Solara, Camry. Which of those vehicles cost 17K new? It's a quality issue not a price issue. I guess you like poor quality or never had a good quality vehicle!

To those people that come here for help with your xB using oil, you won't find the answers here.. I guess they are worried about resell value or just can't stand to hear bad things about their "special" one off xB's!! lololololololol

Enough, you guys can have the last word, I'm late for my golf tee!!

Have a nice day!
HERE YOU GO:
S-SB-0024-11

Some 2007 – 2009 model year tC and 2008 – 2009 model year xB vehicles equipped with the
2AZ-FE engine may exhibit engine oil consumption. The piston assembly has been changed to
minimize oil consumption.


Old Sep 6, 2012 | 05:24 PM
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Back from golfing, AAG, I think you are making it very plain to see that you just don't understand what it it like to own a quality vehicle. How much did it cost you for all of the repairs? If it was done under warranty then nothing! Too bad this oil problem didn't show up while my car was under warranty or it would have been fixed and we wouldn't be having this nice chat.

ROCKLAND, thanks, I printed out that info and put it on the window of my xB. It will also help people understand why they should be careful when thinking about buying a used xB, TC. I also added the other Toyota vehicles listed in the official TSB from Toyota.

Now, off to the Racino, but first I have to check my oil. lol You guy's should get off line and enjoy life some.

Thanks, Chat more tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by xbscion
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. lol You guy's should get off line and enjoy life some.
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while im online im getting paid so i think i'll hang out an hour or so more til quiting time...



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