You have done some really nice things to your xB

but.....

I just don't see the point here. There is no purpose to this mod and it makes no sense. Not only is it useless, but its a further worry in accidents for your passengers. Not to mention the added weight.

Few of the folks that see your car will get it, and most are gonna scratch their heads.

 

Good dose of Haterade this morning huh?

 

If that's the way you look at working and customizing cars, then what's the point of even changing wheels? Or hubcaps? Or having a spoiler? Or even doing anything to the car whatsoever besides driving it?

I'm pretty sure it's a rather secure place to mount harnesses, too...

 

I am truly not intending to hate on NoLimitz.

I really like a lot of the things he's done to his car and think he should take a second to really consider if he wants to do this. There is a point where you start doing too much and adding things takes away from what you've done.

The roll cage is something that people are either going to love or hate, no in between. It's going to be something that will make up folks mind about weather they like the ride or not. So you should be careful if you want the cage to decide if people like the ride. It takes away from everything else.

Just think about it and make sure you wanna do it.

JMO.

 

Nice monkey bars homie. Strap some racing harnesses on that sucker and call it a day!

 

I cant wait to see this finished......I wanna see out it comes out!

 

I don't post here much (hardly at all really) but your all pretty much looking at this wrong.

Roll cages are great.

They add safety, and also reduce body roll. So why don't you look at it that way instead of just "oh its pointless weight". Or "poor rear passengers. They'll be thankful if a roll over was to happen, that they have some metal keeping the roof off of their necks!

 

i like!

 

Thanks for the comments...

But there is two sides to this.

One side is you look just like everyone else and have all the bolt ons. Anyone can copy you. Any can go out and buy the exact same parts. Now they might not be able to do them as good as you did or maybe even better. But you fit right in the mix. Now we all do it and try and make it our own.

Other side. You start building some one off peices for the vehicle. Now they might be overkill as some people put it. But it breaks you apart from the car that is 2 spots down from you. You might think that part is to much. One might think it is perfect cause it is not the "same" as the rest. Just like when I powder coated alot of the under carriage of my tC. No one knew it was there till I pointed it out. But it was done and made it different then eveyone elses.

The cage falls right into that category. I will give you a little story here and you will see what I mean.

I was at a show not long ago. I was walking with the judges as they judged the xB. I was pointing out little stuff here and there and trying to stay out of their way. I hear the one say to the other "harness bar". So I said actually if you look it is a full cage hoop. So he looked closer and was amazed that it was not just a normal bolt in harness bar. So I know that it helped me on my score since there was a couple there with harness bars.

So to you it might be to much. To me it might not be enough. But that is what makes the world go around.

I have done stuff in the past that is over kill as well. Like putting 24" of lift on a 94 Nissan Hardbody truck, or body dropping a mazda on 20's and having to cut right to the edge of the hood. It is what makes you stand out and not be lost in the mix. I really do appreciate all the comments wether they are good or bad. Makes me look at both sides of the fence.

 

looks kool,but I would make a halo and turn it n2 a 4 point!

 

I am, Just have not had time to get in there and finish up all the bars. It will actually be a 6 point. Two more going forward and then two more going to the rear.

 

actually you're looking at this all wrong.... I really am not here to hate but just to list the pro's and cons here with this.....


The pro's I'll let the owner speak about... but the con's is tremendous actually. Unless you're extremely confident in your fab skills and understanding of cages I'd let the pro's do it otherwise you'll get hurt. Roll cage's are used and made for safety reasons and primarily for stiffening purposes.

If you dont build cage's then dont start with a ride you're going to actually drive in. The chances of a bad weld or just bad design causing a bar to snap and project into it's passengers bodies is not that unlikely with a non functioning roll cage. Lets say this cage is designed correctly once he starts adding more support. The car is a box..... lets face it... the xB's design is more of a crumple car then one that would roll over with the force that one would need a cage. The design of our car's is a box, I hope there are some diagonal cross beams going in.

If you want more points I'd focus on cleaning the car better or maybe fabricating some cool new mods. Now if you want points with the cage for a show then remember the stiffening will cause the car to be more rigid, chances are if you were chasing points to begin with, you probably have alot of electronics or fiberglass in the car... the rigid suspension will now make the ride more harsh and things will start to rattle, electronics start to fail, fall off, crack etc etc.... just my .02 cents.

 

Yes I agree. That is why I have a fab shop that does this for a living help make the cage. I am good friends with them and help all I can on my car and others.

Yes I know that adding a cage will make the chassis more rigid. Right now if already lifts the rear wheels off the ground going into a driveway. So it can not get to much more rigid really. I am pretty sure that this vehicle will never see a track. The cage is built out of 1.5" 120 wall DOM material. So I know the material is up to grade. The welding I am damn sure about as he builds full frames for vehicles as well as A arms. So I am not worried about that at all.

So if you saying the cage is unsafe then what about all the harness bars that just bolt to a seat belt bolt and go go behind the heads of the driver and passenger? That seems to be one of the most unsafe things out there.

 

i hope you take out all of those subs and put on lighter wheels before you race this badboy

 

again, not here to attack you or anyone else. just wanted to clear up some information. As long as you're not doing anything unsafely or risking more possible damage I could care less and truly believe that each owner is entitled to their own choices. Just wanted to list some other points which you may or may not have thought of, in which case this is some good feedback then.

PS. tires lifting from the driveway does not have anything to do w/ chassis' rigidity. It just means your coilovers are stiff. Cages increase rigidity side to side front to back, pending on how they're designed.... not up and down per se.... unless you flip.

 

Like I said I doubt I will ever race it. I have read many things where they will not let the xBs run on the tracks. Some will some wont. If I do decide to yes I will take the stereo out. I am thinking of redoing it anyway. It has been the same way since day one.

 

So, did you just not read what I wrote at all? Or just fell like stating the same thing I did, in more detail?

 

what you said was 100% true but just not sure it fit the context of this conversation. Remember we're talking about function and safety vs. not. I see #1 bad welds, I'm hoping they are going to tig weld the rest of the cage. #2 THe main hoop has weird bends and we all know bends = weak points in a structural cage. #3 main hoop doesn't even look like it's designed right. Usually the main hoop should sit as snug to the roof as possible. #4 any bends in the main hoop should be reinforced with the down bars to strengthen weak points.

just saying, if we're gonna do this for show or whatever our purposes are, might as well make sure its safe and functional. Otherwise metal bars in a traffic accident could be very dangerous.

 

I wasn't knocking the quality of the work or anything. From what I seen No Limitz does pretty quality work. And yes, as long as the welds are right, bends are solid, and everythings bolted/welded in right, you get safety and rigidness

 

Where do you see bad welds at? Like I had said before, the shop that help build the cage also does full frames and complete suspensions. So I am not worried about the welds at all. If you look at alot of cages that are out there. The top hoop is not right up against the roof. Like I had saidbefore we are not done with the cage at all. Please show me some cages you have built.