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Old 01-28-2010, 07:56 PM   #1
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What's up everyone, I need some help im not sure if I should go with Coilovers or Air suspension. Im leaning more to air but can you guys give me pros and cons? Also anyone know of any shops in LA or surrounding areas where I can go get air suspension?
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Im currently on DF210's but I want to be able to play with my suspension from time to time.
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Air Suspension
Pro: looks cool
Con: Durability is questionable, maintenance, decrease in performance.

Coilovers
Pro: performance increase if tuned
Cons: convenience of rise over lowering.
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What's up everyone, I need some help im not sure if I should go with Coilovers or Air suspension. Im leaning more to air but can you guys give me pros and cons? Also anyone know of any shops in LA or surrounding areas where I can go get air suspension?
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Im currently on DF210's but I want to be able to play with my suspension from time to time.

For the best air ride, Talk to Shin, from Air Runner, Locally in Anaheim. They have an XB2 kit, they can also customize your set up the way you want it, meaning, Digital , Switches, remote controlled you name it.
1630 South Sunkist Street, Anaheim, CA‎ - (714) 978-2446‎

There + benefits in both applications. It will really depend on what your future goals are with the car.
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AIR FTW!!!

http://randode.com/store/suspension.html

Bags on the best,springs on the rest.
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AIR FTW!!!

http://randode.com/store/suspension.html

Bags on the best,springs on the rest.
^^^What he said.

AirRunner is a quality kit, but being a personal airhead, I'd never run them. Doesn't get low enough for me. I feel if you're going to invest a bit of money into air suspension, you should be layed out.

miketf1's kit is THE setup right now, IMO. I'm sure, with a bit of shopping around, you could get a very similar kit for the same price as the AirRunner. Mike's kit uses Universal Air Suspension's bags, not sure on the valves, and 2 Viair 480 compressors feeding a 5 gallon tank. He is also on K-Sport coilovers for maximum adjustability. Having air and coilovers is THE way to go, because you can get as low as you want (probably even lower) and you have decent adjustable shocks.
Mike's air setup is exactly what I am aiming for.
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go air.. its about the install.. mines been in my car sence 2007 and the first gen 2 xb to be bagged when there was no kits around.. Not one problem yet. Not one leak what so ever. All my installs havent had any problems. In fact i have to fix other shops set ups.

Dont use those push to connect fittings they will leak in time. DOT comperssion type fitting are the way to go. Also if you order UAS.. make sure you order with 1/4 inch lines.. I have no clue to why they always give people 1/2 lines and fittings.

UAS or Air Runner is the way to go. if you want bolt up Air runner but going cost you more. I have UAS in mines and have no complaints. I installed air runners and UAS and there booth just as good.

IF anyone tells or says to you air aint durable, they dont know what there talking about.. Its all about the quality of the install and parts used.
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For the best air ride, Talk to Shin, from Air Runner, Locally in Anaheim. They have an XB2 kit, they can also customize your set up the way you want it, meaning, Digital , Switches, remote controlled you name it.
1630 South Sunkist Street, Anaheim, CA‎ - (714) 978-2446‎

There + benefits in both applications. It will really depend on what your future goals are with the car.
nice thanks man il give them a call.
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Yeah I've seen mike setup and it looks good! But where in la can I have someone do a setup like that for me, I def. Wouldn't mind that set up the only thing that does worry me is the K-sport coilovers I've seen a few threads w/pix where they have blown is this a commen thing for ksport?


Marshall, thanks for the input, why aren't you in Cali so I can have you do my set up too! What's the difference with air ride and air runner?
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Marshall is the man, and he speaks the truth. I've used push fittings and I've had some leak. It's a crap shoot, I tell ya.

http://www.myspace.com/freelandkustomz
^^In Yucca Valley. Not sure how far that is away from you, but Josh does decent work. There's got to be a TON of shops out there, bro.
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Thanks man, Yucca isn't that far I use to live in Palm springs, very familiar with the area. i'll look him up.
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Other than the prototype I was the first one with air runner for the xb2 in 08. After being daily driven and 45k miles later I have not one single problem. Air runner all the way!!!
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jason (scvscions) does great work. many people on here would agree. he is in santa clarita and would give you a great price.
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Yeah I've seen mike setup and it looks good! But where in la can I have someone do a setup like that for me, I def. Wouldn't mind that set up the only thing that does worry me is the K-sport coilovers I've seen a few threads w/pix where they have blown is this a commen thing for ksport?


Marshall, thanks for the input, why aren't you in Cali so I can have you do my set up too! What's the difference with air ride and air runner?
I installed all three kits.. all good kits but ill ist them in the order from 1 2 and 3..

Air runner cost more but its ready to bolt up.. and come with new struts and rear shocks.. IMO it rides a bit smoother.. basic kit comes with air switches and needle gauges.. cost about 1000.00 more ..



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replaced the air swtiches with manifold valves and rocker swtiches.
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UAS.. have to build the front struts. u can use your stocks or go with after market.. rides a little stiffer than air runner but rides smooth Come with 8 valves and swithc box. .

Same set up as 2nd gen .. this is a first gen i did UAS

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replaced the valves with air swtiches becuase the guy had a budget and air swtiches are cheapest way to go.






Easy street.. there's also bolt up and the struts use a smaller bag "sleved type" than Air runner and UAS.. rides ok.. but I just dont like how the deisgn of the front struts are becuase of how and where there fitting are located at the top of the bag. There rears are the same bags as air runner just that they have there own brackets. The easy street digital controler is worthless and doesnt work and un reliable! Turst me and dont beleive what anyone says that controller is not worth the head achs. Just keep it to the basics with plain old switches.

This a Paul at Forjworks set up used Easy street minus the Digital controler.




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If you dont want to spend alot.. UAS is the way to go.. just with a front back set up that eleminates 4 extra valves.. and go with the manifold valves in which saves you with less fittings and parts. minus the swtich box and just get 2 rocker switches.. prob save you about 200.00

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Other than the prototype I was the first one with air runner for the xb2 in 08. After being daily driven and 45k miles later I have not one single problem. Air runner all the way!!!
autofashion all the way .. its worth the drive to SD!!
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oh yea best of both worlds Coil overs with UAS bags on it..

Did this for a Previa install..

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Great info guys, seriously thanks! I have a few more question but before that can you breakdown the price range for all these?
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oh yea best of both worlds Coil overs with UAS bags on it..

Did this for a Previa install..





See this is something I like! How do I go about this and will is cost me more then just a regular set up?
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jason (scvscions) does great work. many people on here would agree. he is in santa clarita and would give you a great price.
I'll def hit Jason up he's a cool guy to deal with I just took his CF OEM hood he had... it's still sleeping in my garage...LOL!
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Only thing with the coilovers and air that would add any expense, would be the coilovers.
I'd hit up one of the vendors in the classifieds section for pricing details.
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jason (scvscions) does great work. many people on here would agree. he is in santa clarita and would give you a great price.
Hey MasterbB,
What set up do you have? and how do you like it so far?
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