SCION will come to an end. Toyota sales dropping, and I was told someone read this somewhere.

 

okay how about one under 20k

 

Jeese dont be such a debbie downer bro... Every ones sales are going down Its a recession lol.

 

Perhaps the 3rd gen xB will be something similar to the the Hako concept.

PDX_xB

 

Seems odd that they would consider cutting their least expensive, most affordable product line in a down economy. I bet Lexus sales are hurting more than Scion sales.

PDX_xB

 

form the timeline, I think tC would be the next up replacing model, but that Hako with 2 doors doesn't look like a tC replacement, but it has 2 doors, so should be a new tC or someting else?

 

Hako is way not close to being the tC replacement. The Hako was just a concept and that only so far. I havent even heard that word in like over a year. The tC replacement is based of the Fuse. Its gonna be a tC and Fuse in one. At least this is the word from people in the know!

 

The box is too iconic for Scion. I don't anticipate it parting soon.

I think that the new refresh model, which will probably be for the 2013 model year, will be more box-like. Toyota took a stab with the xB2 to get it more modern-looking for the American market. Judging by the sales of the xB2 when compared to the xB1, they might try a different approach and go more box-like again. But they'll have to come up with something truly funky in order to steer people away from the Nissan Cube, a car that seems to be eating up a lot of attention.

 

The original xB1 was from 2003 through 2007, so what's this three year stuff?

 

Why? Because you speak for the general population? Sorry, I don't get that -- also, I don't get your position, other than you don't like the xB2, that is. So buy something else!

 

The tC still has a market, no point in killing something that still sells -- unless, of course they've something better in the wings.

 

Actually, going by the manufacturers' VIN, the xB1 was only available in model years 2004, 2005 and 2006. The 2004 may have started selling in 2003, and the 2006's were still being sold in 2007, but it was technically a three model-year run.

Your point is valid for the tC, which is now in its 6th model-year for 2010, just not the xB1.

 

03' and 04' shouldn't have counted because of the stupid way they released the xB to the country. Half the country couldn't even get one till June of 04'.

pyroman131, The Box was Iconic but too bad it left in 06'. xB2 is NOT a Box. Sorry.

Just to clarify... There is no such thing as an xB1. It's just xB please? Thanks

 

As much as I love my RS6, Scion only has a .05% market share overall. That's not a lot to go on to keep changing things up, it costs too much.

That being said, the auto industry learned from Ford to not keep anything the same for too long. Ford had the same switch in almost every vehicle for like 18 years. When they were recalled, it almost did Ford in due to the volume of the recall. Now the auto industry as a whole changes things every 2 to 3 years to reduce their overall liability in the case of a recall. Fact.

The Taurus was the #1 vehicle for many years, they offered a Ford "500" and dropped the Taurus name. Sales dropped to almost nothing. So they re-named the 500 the new Taurus and sales shot through the roof again. Re-design? Sort of.

If Scion is going to stay around, they will (like all makers) change designs every so often. The body is not the place that changes the most, it's the electronics platform. Most ofter they change the sensor designs, intake manifolds, gasket designs, switches. Small changes, but changes. Even the 2010 has a different exhaust, front & rear bumper and I'm sure there have been some sort of changes under the hood and other little changes.

 

I didn't make it up, a fellow Scion owner said he read this.
The auto industry is in bad shape - look around.
Many brands won't survive, Scion may be one of them.

 

I would have to call that either a CubeX or a Bube. Looks like a Cube swallowed an XB! Different.

 

Mine is. Says so on the label. So, it must be true:



PDX_xB

 

Most gen1 owners get a little bent when the gen2 is referred to as a box. I prefer to think of the gen2 as an improved box. It is bigger and heavier, but it is also safer, has a bigger engine and had more standard features. I was not able to persuade the wife on a gen1, but we now own a gen2. I think the improved safety and standard features won her over.

 

I don't get the whole gen1 owners hating on the gen 2 thing. If I owned a gen1, I'd be glad the gen2 looks so different as it would preserve the uniqueness of my car. I always find it funny when people who wish to be different complain when things change. Celebrate diversity!

I like both the gen1 and the gen2 - each has it's advantages over the other, but both are unique and fun to own.

PDX_xB

 

No ____. Who can claim a newer version is not a box?
Sounds like small ***** syndrome to me...