View Poll Results: Would you buy a Scion xB with a 1.4 D4-D Diesel Engine with 50 MPG?

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Why not a Scion xB DIESEL????

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07-13-2006, 03:48 AM

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read this
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...73250485490477
here is a quick run through
JEEP COMMANDER - 18mpg
CHEVROLET CORVETTE - 27mpg
HONDA ACCORD V6 HYBRID - 34mpg
TOYOTA PRIUS - 42mpg (EPA est. is 52)
VOLKSWAGEN JETTA TDI - 50mpg (EPA est. is 42)

DIESEL > HYBRID

07-13-2006, 04:07 AM

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I'll just toss in a copy of my post from another thread on ScionLife also discussing this topic...

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In European countries, Herr Doktor Rudolf Diesel's 1892 invention purrs along under the hoods of one-third to two-thirds of all cars. But here in the U.S., only a dozen passenger-vehicle models with diesel engines are offered: a bunch of brawny American trucks/SUVs, the Mercedes-Benz E-Class, and four Volkswagens. California, Maine, Massachusetts, New York, and Vermont effectively outlaw diesels, and some automakers say they won't introduce diesel cars until they're allowed in every state.

(http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1950577,00.asp)

California emissions outlaw new passenger vehicles with diesel engines. This is due to the amount of particulate in the exhaust (soot). Commercial vehicles are under different regulations, which is why you see a ton of diesel pickups.

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You can buy used diesel cars as long as they have over 7,500 miles and were previously titled. I purchased my 2001 Jetta TDI from a VW dealer in RI and had no issues registering it in MA.

(http://digg.com/tech_news/Diesel_Cars_Are_Back)

I'll be all for diesels, and their claimed cleaner emmisions, as soon as all new diesel-engined vehicles have their exhausts exit roughly where a hood ornament would be, so the diesel folks can breathe the same clean air that we have to when following them...

Tomas

07-13-2006, 06:45 AM

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Back in 2003 when I was car shopping, I was looking at getting a VW Golf TDI or a Honda Civic Hybrid. I stopped by the VW dealer to find out that they didn't have any TDI vehicles at all because of the revised CA emissions law.

I didn't buy my xB until 2005...and I get at most 28mpg with mixed driving.

07-13-2006, 09:12 AM

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the Prius doesn't get 60 HMPG ask anyone that owns one that is an estimate which is made on a cpu or when tested under perfect driving conditions .

07-13-2006, 10:04 AM

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What kills me is all the "performance" talk in the xB sections. C'mon... even with a diesel... who cares about speed? Like our cars are rockets?

I was hoping someone would say this or else I was going to chime in. Doctorcue, you hit the nail on the head. We are talking about an xB diesel, nothing else. Our cars are already slow, and I'll gladly take an additional 15 mpg.

08-26-2006, 04:59 PM

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If a diesel xB was produced I would be the first in line to buy one. I have been day dreaming of the VW 1.9L TDI in my car. Almost identical horsepower, but torque of 177 (more with a chip) and at ultra low RPM rather than our barely over 100 torque, over 4k rpm. Would be at least as quick, but much more driveable with the low end torque. Could spin much lower rpms rather than our 3000 @ 60 mph, which would compound the MPG savings.

60 mpg would not be a long shot.

Of course the possibility of that swap is pretty much NIL, not to mention the 5k+ cost of parts alone!!!