Yang

I would rock that on my D any day

pickledchang

yeah, definately want to see some lit-up pictures! lookin pretty sweet though!

OPINIONATOR_xD

I know they are off the tundra but i dont know what it is about those set. I think there is too much going on with the inside's bezel and trim pieces. It seems to lack the clean & simple design that I would like imo.

Are they using your car as the guini(sp) pig?

xravexboix

They purchased a few tail lamps already (xB, xD) and will have something for me shortly. I told them that we should have the community help design the actual pattern inside the lense and that would help sales (duh, give the ppl what they want!).

My personal take on it:

I like the angel-eye idea for the "parking lights". The Tundra one is overkill (due to size, the thing is like 14" tall). I'd go for 3 rows of "angel eye" tubes and 4 rows of LED (the angel eye rows go between the led rows).

An LED turn signal that's a simple 2 or 3 rows.

Aside from that, I'd like to have it all black/gray. The chrome wouldn't be good on the xD, but looks decent on the Tundra... If you haven't noticed, I'm anti-chrome

Zefoxe

would this help?

milkdribbly

I'm all for an open design were we could all have input. I have not been that impressed with the available tailights, so I would like to take a crack at it. A couple problems and questions come to mind.

The initial design had halos, which I thought were unique and do-able, but I've only heard them used for backup lights, which seems lame to me. How often would that happen... rarely, which is boring. I'd rather see them as the turn signals rapping around the corner of the car. I saw another pair on a BMW taillight that had 3 halo bars in the taillights, but they were overpowered by the brake lights bleeding through.... so the halo effect was lost. Unless you can black -out the background lighting, and isolate the halos's, light will just bleed into them. That's how they work around projectors. Doing otherwise is a waste.

Second, someone previously mentioned they were against chrome. But it's very hard to use LED's with only black, as chrome usually gives LEDs that dazzle effect. Without the chrome background, you lose a lot of lighting. Are we against all chrome, or just everywhere other than behind the bulbs?

Third, straight LED rows SUCK! Everyone's doing stupid box rows and they look like corn rows! If you're going to do rows, do them at slants or intervals or something other than boring straight lines! The square blocks of LED rows are starting to get on my nerve. Break it up with patterns or effects if possible.

Finally, I think the best looks tend to have a smoked look to them. I guess, the plastic is tinted. Dark, and kinda stealthy is always cool, but not so dark you cant see anything, cause otherwise, I'd just paint my own tailights black.

So far, the only LED taillights I've taken a second look at, were Altezza lights. So, if you see any cool picts, post them so we can see what's out there. We need some creative artists, or designers out there.

Thanks,
-T

pickledchang

looks pretty sweet to me, its got my vote. oh, and no schnazzy jazzy chrome.

firesquare

wow that is freakin awesome!!!!!!!! anything for the "old" xB by chance

these taillight alone are a selling point for an xD!

Yang

i second that

xravexboix

So we installed the Tundra prototype lights yesterday.

The fitment wasn't 100%, but it was damn close! Just a small portion of that sticks out (the black part in the picture above that looks like a 'wing') didn't sit completely flush. Since the Scions don't have the 'wing', we'll be fine =P

I didn't get a chance to take pics (I was taking apart an xB2 for them...), but it looked nice lit up. The 'angel eye' parking lamp gave a nice even glow and the LED turn signal (amber) looked very aggressive. Overall, I'm impressed with this company. I just hope all the correct modifications are made for the production lamp.

Firesquare: Nothing at the moment for the xB1. I'll try and start something up in the near future. I want to complete my current projects before taking on more (xB2 tail lamp, xD tail lamp, tC Five Axis grille)

firesquare

sweet! thanks for looking out.

xravexboix

haha finally saw your designs (photo sharing sites blocked at work..)! That looks quite nice!

pickledchang

i feel your pain, lol. do you have any pics of those lights on the tundra?

xravexboix

I'll get a few next week. We didn't get to put the third brake light in, so I didn't take pics (plus I was taking apart a xB for them to measure... amongst other things that morning). We have the lights on an employee vehicle.

In the light, it looks good. We'll have to see how it ends up looking in the dark.

pickledchang

cool. hopefully the xD ones will turn out nicely. did they say how long it would be before they have a prototype? im really hoping they get interested in making us some projectors too.

pickledchang

jeff, any updates on the lights? are they still being worked on?

xravexboix

Sorry!! Update: The guy ended up being really pushy and I didn't feel like dealing with him anymore...

I ask him to call before coming to see me... he just drops by randomly

I ask him to send prototype pics so we can post them online and have the actual consumers critique... he goes ahead with production (the tundra tail lamp, his first Toyota creation).

Then he suddenly wants me to "buy in" for xx units... of his only Toyota product atm... the Tundra tail lamp set. You know... because Tundras are selling well ;)

He's officially on the FAIL list. When his head come down from out of those clouds way up there, I may start with him again. New companies shouldn't be so pushy... I really wanted to help the guy out... but his attitude has much room for improvement.

JDMJim

how well does the black reflect light anyway?

Zefoxe

Eh its ok, I've gotten content with my stockers, at least we dont have chunks of amber anywhere on them