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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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My overall impression is that the xD improves on the xA in just about every way. The one exception that surprised me is legroom, which stays about the same. I've read comments that people think the new interior looks cheap, but this wasn't my impression. It's not quite up to the Fit, but much better than the Yaris.

Biggest advantages of the xB appear to be the larger engine and more rear seat room. The xD's instruments look quite odd, but at least they're in front of the driver.

My other impressions:

http://www.truedelta.com/blog/?p=34
Old Feb 8, 2007 | 10:41 PM
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I may be the only one that likes the center mounted gauges. I like not having to look through the steering wheel and i can drive with my hand on top of the wheel without blocking the gauges. Having them in the center is pretty dang handy!

One fact remains though, the XA is still WAY better looking than the XD!

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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 01:58 AM
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I love the center mount gauges, anyone who complains about how odd or stupid they are are not real car people. there just robots following what their programmed to see as cool or functional for the rest of their lives.

xA is way better looking than xD too.

Good thing, cause xD is not 2nd gen xA.

Long Live the glorious xA forever!!!
Old Feb 9, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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After a more thorough review of the specs (no interior dimensions yet), I suspect that the xD is intended to replace both the xA and the current xB. The new xB is not only quite a bit larger than the old one, but over 600 pounds heavier. Suddenly it's clear why it now has a 2.4-liter engine.

With the gains in size, weight, and power, I suspect that the price will also go up quite a bit. What if current xB owners don't like the heavier, more closed-in feel of the new xB? Then they'll be steered towards the xD.

The usability of centrally-located instruments depends a lot on the execution. My reviews of the xA and xB don't critique the instruments, so I must not have had a problem with their location. I do remember having a problem with centrally-located instruments in the Saturn Ion, Toyota Yaris, and Nissan Quest.
Old Feb 9, 2007 | 05:00 PM
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Is it just me, or does anyone else think the new xD looks like the Porche converted into a hearse in the movie, "Harold & Maude"?
Old Feb 9, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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I'm afraid it's been years since I saw that movie. Got a pic?
Old Feb 10, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mkaresh
After a more thorough review of the specs (no interior dimensions yet), I suspect that the xD is intended to replace both the xA and the current xB.
My thought exactly. I'd definitely choose the xD over the new xB as a replacement for my current xB.

Seems like the new xB is going after a different market than the original. Bigger and more powerful to compete with Element, HHR, PT Cruiser, Mazda 3 wagon. From those choices, I'd probably pick the new xB.

Although I really don't like those big C pillars with no window in the cargo area on either model- reminds me of a VW Golf or something. Maybe it'll grow on me by the time I'm ready to buy. I didn't like the original xB when it first came out either.
Old Feb 10, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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The one exception that surprised me is legroom, which stays about the same.

are you talking about the front or the rear? cause the rear was a lot roomier compared to the A. i pushed the front seats all the way back and sat in the back and i had a good 3" of knee room and i'm 5'10".

getting in and out was easier. it had more head, hip and legroom compared to the A and its great that you can recline and slide the rear seats.
Old Feb 10, 2007 | 07:14 PM
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I think Scion took a wrong direction with these models, the xB is definitely better looking but bleh the 2.4L engine? What for, is the mileage as good as the original xB?

I'm slightly disappointed, but planning to visit the show tomorrow to see in person so I might change my mind.

I prefer the center console too. Guess I'll end up buying a used xB when the time comes...
Old Feb 10, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by stew32
Originally Posted by mkaresh
After a more thorough review of the specs (no interior dimensions yet), I suspect that the xD is intended to replace both the xA and the current xB.
My thought exactly. I'd definitely choose the xD over the new xB as a replacement for my current xB....
Same here. I don't like anything about the 2008 xB -- not the extra size, weight, power and cost, and especially NOT the high beltline rising upward to the rear. It looks weird on the xB but good on the xD.
If I had to replace my 2006 xB, I would get the xD. It's slightly increased size and power are just right, and I like the looks.
Old Feb 10, 2007 | 11:13 PM
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Overall, I'd agree-- I prefer the xD more; the size is better, and the engine's more fuel efficient. The only thing I'd want that only the xB has is that multi-information display. D:
Old Feb 11, 2007 | 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Rich_Manas
The one exception that surprised me is legroom, which stays about the same.

are you talking about the front or the rear? cause the rear was a lot roomier compared to the A. i pushed the front seats all the way back and sat in the back and i had a good 3" of knee room and i'm 5'10".

getting in and out was easier. it had more head, hip and legroom compared to the A and its great that you can recline and slide the rear seats.
mkaresh is mostly promoting his website and service, for free, by posting to every forum known to world of man. So dont get annoyed that he doesnt know what he is talking about about xA or xD or xB...
Old Feb 23, 2007 | 11:59 PM
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Default Re: Sat in xD in Chicago, impressions

Originally Posted by mkaresh
My overall impression is that the xD improves on the xA in just about every way. The one exception that surprised me is legroom, which stays about the same....
Here is a photo of the legroom in the back seat of an xD - what happened?
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.au...ionxd---20.jpg
Old Feb 24, 2007 | 12:06 AM
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Default Re: Sat in xD in Chicago, impressions

Originally Posted by vintage42
Originally Posted by mkaresh
My overall impression is that the xD improves on the xA in just about every way. The one exception that surprised me is legroom, which stays about the same....
Here is a photo of the legroom in the back seat of an xD - what happened?
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.au...ionxd---20.jpg
The near seat in the picture is when the seats are moved forward for greater storage capability. I think the seat on the far end is more realistic.
Old Feb 24, 2007 | 12:10 AM
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adjustable rear seat!!!
Old Feb 24, 2007 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by duck_dodgers_24_5
adjustable rear seat!!!
Yeah, pretty cool. Here is a blurb from the press release.

The xD features front bucket seats and 60/40 fold flat rear seats for a level cargo space. The rear seats were designed for comfort and utility as they can slide forward and back up to six inches for additional leg room and cargo area. In addition, they can recline ten degrees and be adjusted into five different positions.
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