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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 02:07 AM
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Does anybody else have problems with air suspension when it is below freezing?

Tonight it is -20celcius (not sure of farenheight), and the bags are having trouble holding air...the fronts almost dumped completely in 15 minutes of being parked, and now the compresser is frozen up.

Of course when I was parked for 15 minutes, I had to park on a steep driveway, then I couldn't get the front up, and I almost ripped the front bumper off.

Also, the compressor was having a hard time filling the tank up and building pressure. I know that cold weather is going to exaggerate any leaks.....

Anybody have anything to add. I parked the xb, and am going to drive my dually f350 until things warm up and I can take a look at things.
Old Dec 16, 2008 | 02:14 AM
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From my experiences ice can and will build up.
Are your valves outside the car? Either way they will probably freeze up on you. I even had my pressure switch freeze up.

Ice will form inside the valves preventing them from sealing correctly and cause more leaks.
Old Dec 16, 2008 | 02:20 AM
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i am having the same problem here in CO. It is currently -2. The reason you are loosing air is because (easy way to understand) air shrinks in a cold climate.
Old Dec 16, 2008 | 04:44 AM
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Of course, the next problem is the f350.

It's a 7.3 diesel, and I have done a lot of things to make it run cooler when towing. when empty, in this weather, it never really heats up, and takes 20 minutes for the heat to start pumping. Sucky deal.
Old Dec 16, 2008 | 06:48 AM
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yea my dad had the same problem with his f350 so he plugs it in at night.
Old Dec 16, 2008 | 06:05 PM
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Use the stuff semi's use on their air brake systems....
Old Dec 16, 2008 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ogerdgonz
Use the stuff semi's use on their air brake systems....
x2, I was going to say the same thing.
I have been told by guys in the mini truck scene that a cap full of alcohol in your tank will do it as well.
Old Dec 17, 2008 | 02:47 AM
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^^^Yes and Yes...Get some Air Brake Antifreeze and it should help...it may not fix it completely but it should help.
Old Dec 17, 2008 | 03:43 PM
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X3 on the alcohol in the tank. that's what i did on my Jeep and it worked great in some pretty cold and harsh conditions.


Yes, air bags on a Jeep!
Old Dec 19, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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Airbags on the Jeep is the best set up for a Wrangler.
Old Dec 19, 2008 | 05:00 PM
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Yeah, it was a good set up. I ended up switching back to coils though for reliability, it was my DD. If I had the bags on it, I could have lowered the front to change the center of gravity though and avoided my backwards rollover resuling in this:
Old Dec 19, 2008 | 11:18 PM
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JEEP FTW!!!
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 05:24 AM
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my valves are mounted inside in the back, but I never drive the car in the winter or when its nasty out. But one night it was very very cold, (i don't remember the temp) But the valves were froze lol
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