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Originally Posted by Tomas
The potential problem with a reputation system in an aggressive a group of folks as we see here at ScionLife.com is that small groups of folks will often get together to "game" the system by en masse jumping on another group and rating them very low and themselves very high, or other variations.
(We actually went through this a couple years ago with the rating system for cars that we have on ScionLife.com. One particular club, which shall remain nameless, got upset with another club and persistently and repeatedly rated members of that other club's cars a "1" no matter what, and their own members a "5" no matter what. To this day, there is a "trust" problem with that club among some of the staff here.
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(We actually went through this a couple years ago with the rating system for cars that we have on ScionLife.com. One particular club, which shall remain nameless, got upset with another club and persistently and repeatedly rated members of that other club's cars a "1" no matter what, and their own members a "5" no matter what. To this day, there is a "trust" problem with that club among some of the staff here.
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Ever been to Zilvia.net? Thats agressive. 
Seriously, in terms of "reputation" we need something where we (the general public) can only give "props" for someones effort on making a well educated post/DIY/info and a way to reprimand those who make uselsss comments.
Honda-tech.com started everyone with 100% "reputation" and if any user violated rules they lost precentage accordingly. so people knew that people with 100% wen't idiots.
Zilvia.net had a "rep" system in which you had a green bar as people gave you more "positive rep", and the other half of the bar would go red and would grow if people gave you "negative rep".
Both of those above mentiond systems were lost when they converted to vBulletin. I don't know exactly why, but it was lost at the same time as the transfer. Also, I am not suggesting that those exact methods are what we should adapt, that is your's and IB's decision, I'm just trying to help.
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um. . .i dont think the SL twitter account works 
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A few other forums I'm on are ran with Vbulletin.. they are all much easier then this forum and don't log you off everytime you try to access your personal profile 
I support SL's new change!
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Originally Posted by jct
its almost here 
One of the sites I write for just cut to new software and finally turned up on the new stuff 4AM Sundsy morning.
My most recent 1 1/2 months worth of extended equipment review articles there is so hosed that unless they can straighten them out I'm going to bulk delete the entire project.
So far I have director level folks at [fortune 500 company] pleading with me to wait until they see if their cutover people can fix the problems.
I'll wait, but if it gets to the point where it appears they can't fix the problems, they've lost the articles, end of discussion.
Even with the best of intentions, a respected commercial outfit doing the cut, and many thousands of dollars put into the project, it can fail. I'm watching it right now at that other site. They've been out of service for six days.
They are back on-line now, but it's very broken. (Looks great though!)I just hope we do a lot better. A WHOLE LOT better.
Tom
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Originally Posted by RedneckwithanxB
So, we can expect SL back up to normal around what, 9:30 CST July 27th, 2011?
First thing the team will do after shutting down public access to ScionLife.com is to do a full complete backup copy of everything here. Everything.
Once that backup is made, they will start on the conversion of the database to it's new format and while that is happening, get all the working files, applications, and utilities loaded onto the server.
Once the database is converted, we will be going through each piece of the new ScionLife site setting and verifying every option, and making the necessary changes we have already written down on our checklists.
THEN we will go through everything again to make sure what we have done all works and works right. Once we have it as good as we can make it, we will "flip the switch" and turn it back up for public access.
Then you folks get to dig through everything we did our best on and tell use where we screwed up.
How long will it be down? I don't know. No one goes home until it's turned up and running.
My best estimate is some time around the end of the business day.
There is no firm time, because it depends on how many difficulties we might encounter.
We know the minimum will be hours of work, how may hours the maximum may be, we don't know.
It will be as short as we can reasonably make it.
(After the site has been running well for a couple of weeks, there are some changes and additions we want to get in there. We will be moving to the new software with as few plug-ins as possible to limit the number of things that can go wrong, and to reduce troubleshooting problems.)
Still, I'm nervous, and trying to think of anything we could have possibly missed.
jeez the dang backup alone is going to take forever.....Hope all goes well. Usually Database conversions never go good because of invalid tables or entries becoming NULL. Hope the SL conversion goes better. V-Bulletin is better software to run on but definitely still holds its own issues and holes. Hopefully the two Databases will play nice together considering their different structures.
