Gear Ratios: Transmission
#1
Gear Ratios: Transmission
Ashe_WCM was kind enough to post the gear ratios for the xA/xB's transmissions.
Original post: https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...=437658#437658
Originally Posted by Ashe_WCM
Originally Posted by Scion xA/xB Press Release
D. C150 5-speed Manual transmission
1. compact, lightweight, 5-speed manual transmission
2. specific to U.S. market xA & xB
3. Gear Ratios
4. High numerical final drive ratio = very short gearing
5. Short gearing improves acceleration
1. compact, lightweight, 5-speed manual transmission
2. specific to U.S. market xA & xB
3. Gear Ratios
Code:
Gear / Ratio C150 5MT U340E 4AT 1st 3.54:1 2.84:1 2nd 1.90:1 1.55:1 3rd 1.31:1 1.00:1 4th 0.96:1 0.70:1 5th 0.81:1 – Reverse 3.25:1 2.34:1 Final Drive 4.31:1 4.15:1
5. Short gearing improves acceleration
#2
5th gear should be fourth. And somebody needs to make a new 5th that has a .67:1 ratio, or something near that. Then we wouldn't have to to rev it up to 4000 to go 80mph. Think of the gas mileage if 80mph could be done at 2800rpm or so!
Now don't go checking my math because it's surely wrong. I just ballparked it to make my point. If I knew it all, I'd make that darn gear myself.
That's really the only shortcoming of the xB. Other than that the car is just right.
Now don't go checking my math because it's surely wrong. I just ballparked it to make my point. If I knew it all, I'd make that darn gear myself.
That's really the only shortcoming of the xB. Other than that the car is just right.
#5
Originally Posted by wnsham
5th gear should be fourth. And somebody needs to make a new 5th that has a .67:1 ratio, or something near that. Then we wouldn't have to to rev it up to 4000 to go 80mph. Think of the gas mileage if 80mph could be done at 2800rpm or so!
Now don't go checking my math because it's surely wrong. I just ballparked it to make my point. If I knew it all, I'd make that darn gear myself.
That's really the only shortcoming of the xB. Other than that the car is just right.
Now don't go checking my math because it's surely wrong. I just ballparked it to make my point. If I knew it all, I'd make that darn gear myself.
That's really the only shortcoming of the xB. Other than that the car is just right.
#7
TRD competition transmission gear set changes the ratios, theres two to choose from
Part number : 33030-EP702
Gear / Ratio C150 5MT
1st 2.786:1
2nd 2.059:1
3rd 1.600:1
4th 1.273:1
5th 1.042:1
Part number : 33030-EP752
Gear / Ratio C150 5MT
1st 3.200:1
2nd 2.359:1
3rd 1.850:1
4th 1.458:1
5th 1.167:1
i like those numbers, i get kinda annoyed sometimes with how short our damn gears are, especialy the 5th gear, its wiered driving 80 and doing 4000rpm, i was barley hitting 3000 in my other car at 80
Part number : 33030-EP702
Gear / Ratio C150 5MT
1st 2.786:1
2nd 2.059:1
3rd 1.600:1
4th 1.273:1
5th 1.042:1
Part number : 33030-EP752
Gear / Ratio C150 5MT
1st 3.200:1
2nd 2.359:1
3rd 1.850:1
4th 1.458:1
5th 1.167:1
i like those numbers, i get kinda annoyed sometimes with how short our damn gears are, especialy the 5th gear, its wiered driving 80 and doing 4000rpm, i was barley hitting 3000 in my other car at 80
#9
Originally Posted by Daewootech
TRD competition transmission gear set changes the ratios, theres two to choose from
Part number : 33030-EP702
Gear / Ratio C150 5MT
1st 2.786:1
2nd 2.059:1
3rd 1.600:1
4th 1.273:1
5th 1.042:1
Part number : 33030-EP752
Gear / Ratio C150 5MT
1st 3.200:1
2nd 2.359:1
3rd 1.850:1
4th 1.458:1
5th 1.167:1
i like those numbers, i get kinda annoyed sometimes with how short our damn gears are, especialy the 5th gear, its wiered driving 80 and doing 4000rpm, i was barley hitting 3000 in my other car at 80
Part number : 33030-EP702
Gear / Ratio C150 5MT
1st 2.786:1
2nd 2.059:1
3rd 1.600:1
4th 1.273:1
5th 1.042:1
Part number : 33030-EP752
Gear / Ratio C150 5MT
1st 3.200:1
2nd 2.359:1
3rd 1.850:1
4th 1.458:1
5th 1.167:1
i like those numbers, i get kinda annoyed sometimes with how short our damn gears are, especialy the 5th gear, its wiered driving 80 and doing 4000rpm, i was barley hitting 3000 in my other car at 80
Is my math backwards, or would these gear it down ?? Ashe_WCM's post above says a .61:1 would be the way to go if we want lower revs at 80mph.
It's all good, except for 5th gear. It's so close to 4th. I haven't used 4th gear for six months. I just skip it and go from 3rd to 5th.
Anyway, I'm ready to spend some $$$ if anyone knows how/where to get it done.
#13
I've been thinking about the possibility of dropping in a 5th gear from a Toyota Yaris since it is the same gearbox but gets better fuel mileage. I'm only focusing on the 5th gear as that is the only gear that bugs me. I want to maximize my MPG while still having power for in town and to pass in 4th. The thing I don't know is the final drive size between the models.
#14
great info
here is a chart to play with
http://www.fatboyraceworks.com/gears...raph&Compare=1
ive already put the stock info on the left side of the chart, but i didn't touch the right side
here is a chart to play with
http://www.fatboyraceworks.com/gears...raph&Compare=1
ive already put the stock info on the left side of the chart, but i didn't touch the right side
#15
Time to raise the dead!
Ok I've been searching, but I am not liking my results.
My brother-in-law, and I went to Exposed today, and finally got to settle the score at the drag strip to see who's quicker. He has an '04 xB w/ a manual, I have an '06 manual. His mods are header + cat-back, where as I only have header + axle-back. The only other difference between our cars are wheels. He has 18x7 with 225s, I have steelies with 185s. 1st and 2nd gears we are nearly identical acceleration wise, but once we hit 3rd, he pulls on me. Best he, and I could muster was him a 17.2, to my 17.8. A short while later we hit the dyno that was set up in the garage. I went first, and put down a respectable(to me for what little mods I have) but modest 88whp and 99wtq. Expecting him to have a little more power due to his quicker 1/4 mi times, he went, and low and behold, his xB was only able to muster 87whp and 94wtq.
All driver mod jokes aside, my question is this. Did Scion change gear ratios between 04 and 06? As previously stated we are almost identical in speed till around 60mph(3rd gear change) and he just starts to pull me. I can not for the life of me understand how and why this would happen, scientifically speaking. Especially knowing I am lighter, and possess slightly more power. I know his wheels will change his gearing slightly, but wouldn't it slow his acceleration, not increase it?
Ok I've been searching, but I am not liking my results.
My brother-in-law, and I went to Exposed today, and finally got to settle the score at the drag strip to see who's quicker. He has an '04 xB w/ a manual, I have an '06 manual. His mods are header + cat-back, where as I only have header + axle-back. The only other difference between our cars are wheels. He has 18x7 with 225s, I have steelies with 185s. 1st and 2nd gears we are nearly identical acceleration wise, but once we hit 3rd, he pulls on me. Best he, and I could muster was him a 17.2, to my 17.8. A short while later we hit the dyno that was set up in the garage. I went first, and put down a respectable(to me for what little mods I have) but modest 88whp and 99wtq. Expecting him to have a little more power due to his quicker 1/4 mi times, he went, and low and behold, his xB was only able to muster 87whp and 94wtq.
All driver mod jokes aside, my question is this. Did Scion change gear ratios between 04 and 06? As previously stated we are almost identical in speed till around 60mph(3rd gear change) and he just starts to pull me. I can not for the life of me understand how and why this would happen, scientifically speaking. Especially knowing I am lighter, and possess slightly more power. I know his wheels will change his gearing slightly, but wouldn't it slow his acceleration, not increase it?
#17
I'm trying to say that our cars are very capable but you have to learn its power-band and optimal fuel efficiency techniques. Best thing you can do for yourself is buy a Scangauge.
#18
5th gear should be fourth. And somebody needs to make a new 5th that has a .67:1 ratio, or something near that. Then we wouldn't have to to rev it up to 4000 to go 80mph. Think of the gas mileage if 80mph could be done at 2800rpm or so!
Now don't go checking my math because it's surely wrong. I just ballparked it to make my point. If I knew it all, I'd make that darn gear myself.
That's really the only shortcoming of the xB. Other than that the car is just right.
Now don't go checking my math because it's surely wrong. I just ballparked it to make my point. If I knew it all, I'd make that darn gear myself.
That's really the only shortcoming of the xB. Other than that the car is just right.
#20
Understanding Gear ratio for Scion xB
[QUOTE=Daewootech;245150]TRD competition transmission gear set changes the ratios, theres two to choose from
Part number : 33030-EP702
Gear / Ratio C150 5MT
1st 2.786:1
2nd 2.059:1
3rd 1.600:1
4th 1.273:1
5th 1.042:1
What is he rpm for each? Like 1st is 2700 rpm, 2nd 2000, 3rd 1600 rpm and so forth? I just bought a Scion XB 2010 and need to fully understand when o shift gears. Please HELP!!
Part number : 33030-EP702
Gear / Ratio C150 5MT
1st 2.786:1
2nd 2.059:1
3rd 1.600:1
4th 1.273:1
5th 1.042:1
What is he rpm for each? Like 1st is 2700 rpm, 2nd 2000, 3rd 1600 rpm and so forth? I just bought a Scion XB 2010 and need to fully understand when o shift gears. Please HELP!!