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BlckdOutTC 04-11-2008, 12:04 AM Hey guys whats goin onnnnn,
I might be plannin to do a small system this weekend/next week. I have the alpine 9885 head unit. I wanna do the 12" alpine type r. Now i listen to mostly metal/hard rock, but have the rap mixed in there too. id say its split 60/40 rap to metal. I was thinkin the type r in a sealed box. Not sure what amp to use though.
Any comments, advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks
P.S. i am completely a noob at systems so sorry for dumb questions/comments in advance , lol
Jiggaman 04-11-2008, 12:21 AM I have 1 type r 10, and it is great for both, really fast response and recoil time, dont miss any beats....
i have nothing but good things to say about alpine equipment, I have had them for almost 3 years now in 2 different cars and they are still great!
alot of people are blown away when they sit in my car because they think i have at least 2 12" inch subs, but its only 1 10" in a ported box running at max power....
:love:
BlckdOutTC 04-11-2008, 12:23 AM yeah i've heard nothing but amazing things about this sub like how they can blow other away that have 2 subs. What kinda amp u runnin with it?
mospeedtc 04-11-2008, 12:24 AM I <3 my type R's
BlckdOutTC 04-11-2008, 12:27 AM i mean im not trying to get loud a$$ bass that blows my ears. I just want a louder system with some kick in it. i was thinkin a 1k watt amp?
mospeedtc 04-11-2008, 12:34 AM Im using a alpine MRP-M650 amp to power both mine and they are more than enough for me...
BlckdOutTC 04-11-2008, 12:40 AM yah someone suggested the mrp m450 for my single. is 400 watts enough?
mospeedtc 04-11-2008, 12:43 AM Well ur running 2 -12" Im running 2 -10" I think it'll do but better safe then sry and get one step above IMO
BlckdOutTC 04-11-2008, 12:51 AM i only doin 1 12
mospeedtc 04-11-2008, 01:00 AM OH then that amp should do.
BlckdOutTC 04-11-2008, 01:02 AM alright thanks a lot. prolly gonna go tomorrow to get a quote
VN909KALIBOI 04-11-2008, 08:21 AM Yo type r's are amazing, for the price you really can't beat them. I have the alpine cda 9884 headunit, one 12" type r running about 500 rms in a sealed box and they hit nice and clean. The system is only 1.5 week long so I can't tell you how good they are in the long run but I did a lot of research before I bought them and like you said nothing but good reviews.
Nick06tC 04-11-2008, 09:30 AM I am running 2-12" type Rs with 2-MRP 450 monos. It sounds good. but I think a to each would sound even better.
But that would be risky, so i say go with one mono 450 and you will be good.
I love having each sub with its own amp, keeps everything cool and no overheating!!
trialsindude 04-11-2008, 11:38 AM I have 1 type r 10, and it is great for both, really fast response and recoil time, dont miss any beats....
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BlckdOutTC 04-11-2008, 11:58 AM I have 1 type r 10, and it is great for both, really fast response and recoil time, dont miss any beats....
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dont get it....
nebster 04-11-2008, 01:37 PM its pretty funny......
eD is having a sale on their 13ov.2's two of them for 140. pair it with a nine.1 (hit me up i have one for sale) and you can get subs / amp for less than 400
BlckdOutTC 04-11-2008, 06:34 PM got a quote - 650 installed for type r 12 in, vented box, alpine m 500 amo and wiring kit. prolly gonna do it next week, i gotta sell my drum set first!!
trialsindude 04-11-2008, 07:42 PM got a quote - 650 installed for type r 12 in, vented box, alpine m 500 amo and wiring kit. prolly gonna do it next week, i gotta sell my drum set first!!
WOW EXPENSIVE
nebster 04-11-2008, 07:43 PM x2 that is super expensive. what kind of box is it? i'm asuming standard bb / cc vented box. whats it tuned to? bleh what does it matter alpine doesn't like vented / ported
trialsindude 04-11-2008, 08:52 PM With $650 I can do a lot with that....Like heading over to Db-r and picking up a refurb SAZ1500 for $360 shipped, a single 12" FI Q with BP power for $299 shipped. Thats now $610, build a box for $20, find some amp wiring kit over at CA.com for used and pay like $50... And you will be louder than you ever want to be.
BlckdOutTC 04-11-2008, 09:05 PM i dont want anything super loud with bass thatll blow your ears off, i can find the type r online for like 150, the amp online for 140, get the box and wiring at best buy for 100 all for about 400 and put it in myself if i really want to, im just saying i got a quote
trialsindude 04-11-2008, 09:08 PM so you would pay someone an extra $250 just to install it since you can piece it all together for $400?
BlckdOutTC 04-11-2008, 09:18 PM im completely new to the entire audio world. I jsut figured it out, i can get the type r for 115, apline mrp m450 for 120, go to best buy and get box and wiring for 100, have them install it for about 60 with a lifetime warranty.
VN909KALIBOI 04-12-2008, 09:04 AM If I were you I would just pay the 650 and just get it done. Your new to the audio world so don't try and go do it yourself, a lot can go wrong... trust me. now 650 isn't a great price but at the same time if the shop your going to is a legit shop, then your getting a fair price.
BlckdOutTC 04-12-2008, 12:26 PM well the thing is, i can buy the sub and amp on my own for way cheaper than the store has it, but buy their box and wiring, then have them install it and it will still have a lifetime warranty
BZinn1 04-12-2008, 05:00 PM its pretty funny......
eD is having a sale on their 13ov.2's two of them for 140. pair it with a nine.1 (hit me up i have one for sale) and you can get subs / amp for less than 400
Ben how do those subs sound........I am picking up a pair for when my SQblows down the road.......they look like they are loud from the specs.
nebster 04-12-2008, 05:43 PM they're not spl subs, they're nice though, i really like them. they put out well and hit really clean. i'm a fan
nebster 04-12-2008, 05:43 PM well the thing is, i can buy the sub and amp on my own for way cheaper than the store has it, but buy their box and wiring, then have them install it and it will still have a lifetime warranty
is this bb / cc?
sounds like it
BlckdOutTC 04-12-2008, 07:19 PM bb / cc?
Nick06tC 04-12-2008, 11:59 PM best buy or circuit city.
BlckdOutTC 04-13-2008, 03:35 AM best buy. circut city doesnt carry alpine. The best buy near me is HUGE and has like everything
nebster 04-13-2008, 03:58 AM either way. don't do it, best buy has been known to F up installs, do it yourself or find a buddy to help you.
you're gonna get screwed over bro, thats all i'll say about that
Amaran06 04-13-2008, 04:08 AM hey will im going to get me some type R too.. cant wait!! but can someone help me out?? i dont know wut in the world r OHMS?? they have a 12in. with 2 ohms and 4 ohms.. wut does that mean?? and wut would be a good amp to run both of 12?? 1000 watt would be good??
nebster 04-13-2008, 04:13 AM http://bcae1.com/
Tcguy85 04-13-2008, 05:43 AM boooo for type r's. there are much better for the same price out there.
BlckdOutTC 04-13-2008, 12:56 PM Yeah i dont want to have them do it but my buddy that is really good with systems is on vacation, but by the time he gets back i'll have all the parts so im just gonna have him do it
VN909KALIBOI 04-15-2008, 09:35 PM ^^^agreed, type r's are dollar for dollar the best subs out there
trialsindude 04-15-2008, 09:38 PM boooo for type r's. there are much better for the same price out there.
really like?
the only thing that comes to mind near the vicinity of the type R is maybe a W6, and that is more than twice the price that I got my type Rs for!
most likely you heard a faulty install, or an incompetent shop. Dollar for dollar, I havent heard anything to compare in the price range, granted type Rs are a bit power hungry
Mehhhh
Between a 12" Hype-R costing $199..
I'd rather get a 12" FI SSD which cost $189. Build quality is better, sound better, handles whatever power you throw at it, if you blow it, fixing it is a simple re-cone away, oh yeah customer service.....
BlckdOutTC 04-15-2008, 09:41 PM i think im savin for a tattoo anyways so nvm lol, ill do a system prolly in the summer
trialsindude 04-15-2008, 09:59 PM I dont presume to say that you are too experienced at audio for several reasons
Yeah I don't know my car audio at all.... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
1) the type Rs handle 500W RMS and some have recorded to throw much more at them individually. I dont know of many woofers in the range again that can handle that much power
Did I say anything about the power level of the HypeR? NO
2) I dont know why you would want a woofer to handle "any power you throw at it". possibly your confused that power ratings = SPL or db ratings which is NOT TRUE.
Once again did I say that???? NO
3) I would never recommend reconing a woofer for many obvious reasons. But I do remember a friend that had his version 1 W3 reconed back in the day, and it was about $100. I would have just coughed up the money for a brand new woofer
So say if you own a DD 9910, you rather buy a new one than reconing it? LOL
trialsindude 04-15-2008, 11:55 PM continue your bs rant...go and look at some of my old threads and tell me if I know car audio or not.
Tcguy85 04-16-2008, 01:22 AM boooo for type r's. there are much better for the same price out there.
really like?
the only thing that comes to mind near the vicinity of the type R is maybe a W6, and that is more than twice the price that I got my type Rs for!
most likely you heard a faulty install, or an incompetent shop. Dollar for dollar, I havent heard anything to compare in the price range, granted type Rs are a bit power hungry
perfect example is the sub i am using right now, the Dayton HO. $115 shipped from partsexpress.com. it will totally destroy a Hype-R when it comes to SQ. they need a much smaller box, will take the same power, but won't even need rated power to get loud.
others that are better for about the same price(were talking ebay pricing BTW, so about $120 shipped)
CSS SDX10
Ascendant Audio Assassin series
Elemental Designs KV series
i'm sure i'll think of more.
but my point is, the type-r is not the end all of subs.
nebster 04-16-2008, 01:25 AM Fi Q
DLS OA12
i think those are around 150-200
Tcguy85 04-16-2008, 01:27 AM whats a hype-r goin for at best buy?
nvm, WOW! $229!!! now for that price you can definitely find WAAAAAY better.
nebster 04-16-2008, 01:29 AM 229.99 for a 12
199.99 for a 10
Tcguy85 04-16-2008, 01:31 AM 229.99 for a 12
199.99 for a 10
$229 can get ya a hell of a sub.
nebster 04-16-2008, 01:31 AM agreed
Tcguy85 04-16-2008, 01:34 AM agreed
if somebody said "hey here is $230, buy a sub and spend the whole $230 on one sub" i'd find $10 more and get this http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=5806 the IDQ 10 V3.
nebster 04-16-2008, 01:38 AM i'd rock a DLS woofer in a heartbeat
nebster 04-16-2008, 01:51 AM you'd chose a boston woofer over anything? wow man
nebster 04-16-2008, 01:55 AM and either way a hype-r isn't a sq or a spl woofer, its a general suck woofer even for 125
Tcguy85 04-16-2008, 02:01 AM and either way a hype-r isn't a sq or a spl woofer, its a general suck woofer even for 125
yup, they were an over-hyped woofer that CAN get loud but has no chance of sounding very good. i will once again say you can get much better for less money, for $120 shipped there is still much better out there.
nebster 04-16-2008, 02:01 AM got a quote - 650 installed for type r 12 in, vented box, alpine m 500 amo and wiring kit. prolly gonna do it next week, i gotta sell my drum set first!!
well thats where he'd buy it from...... thats what he said
learn to read
Tcguy85 04-16-2008, 02:02 AM 229.99 for a 12
199.99 for a 10
curious. where are you getting these price quotes from? alpine? BB? you have to be joking that you are going to buy a woofer from Ripp Buy
thats retail. i was asking because i also paid retail for my Dayton sub, and retail was 115 including shipping.
i also stated that a type r can be had brand new on ebay for about 120 shipped.
nebster 04-16-2008, 02:03 AM PLUS THE OP SAID HE'D BE BUYING FROM BB
come on guys reading > you
Tcguy85 04-16-2008, 02:06 AM 229.99 for a 12
199.99 for a 10
curious. where are you getting these price quotes from? alpine? BB? you have to be joking that you are going to buy a woofer from Ripp Buy
thats retail. i was asking because i also paid retail for my Dayton sub, and retail was 115 including shipping.
i also stated that a type r can be had brand new on ebay for about 120 shipped.
Right, but for another $5, id much rather have peace of mind with warranty from my local AUTHORIZED dealer. you dont get that from flee bay
ehhh screw warranties. if i can find something for less w/o a warranty i'll still buy it. the item will either work when you get it or not. and if it breaks later on down the line, it was most likely from operator error. if not, the manufacturer will try to find a way out of not warrantying the item anyway. so screw warranties.
BTW, i have never once had to file a warranty claim on anything.
Tcguy85 04-16-2008, 02:09 AM and either way a hype-r isn't a sq or a spl woofer, its a general suck woofer even for 125
Excellent Determination based on what again? Your lack of resourceful information does nothing but further stress your incompetence
Dismissed until further notice
it is common knowledge of anybody who REALLY knows car audio.
Tcguy85 04-16-2008, 02:17 AM nope, i have never in my life once had to use a warranty. i am only 23 but still, i just don't believe in paying extra for something you'll most likely never need. and even if you do need they will try to find a way out.
Tcguy85 04-16-2008, 02:20 AM and either way a hype-r isn't a sq or a spl woofer, its a general suck woofer even for 125
Excellent Determination based on what again? Your lack of resourceful information does nothing but further stress your incompetence
Dismissed until further notice
it is common knowledge of anybody who REALLY knows car audio.
then please I beg you to show me how much you *really know about car audio* with Formal documentation of expertise from a reputable institution
or do you also satisfy the aforementioned qualification of having a small penis, while lying about a large one, or being in *car audio since I was 1 yo"?
my penis is fine. :) and i don't have any document showing my audio skills. i do have plenty of experience with both home and car audio though. i'll take real life experience over any certification any day.
i hate to say this and if the person i am reffering to reads this i don't mean this in a mean way t all. but a buddy of mine is MECP certified and still had me tune his stereo for him.
Tcguy85 04-16-2008, 02:27 AM i hear ya man. it's cool.
what are your audio experiences BTW?
nebster 04-16-2008, 02:32 AM i don't have any formal education either but i think i'm more than qualified to state my opinion lol. i love SQ and tcguy and i talk about it all the time. if you knew what i was running (oh wait you can look in my profile) you'd know that i know whats good. and alpine is NOT good, minus their HU's like 4 years ago
trialsindude 04-16-2008, 02:38 AM Clean XB reminds me of SepaTc! with his audiobling!
Tcguy85 04-16-2008, 02:40 AM ^^^^ HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! OH BOY!
trialsindude 04-16-2008, 02:42 AM I mean he challenged my "car audio" knowledge and I am hurt by that.... its like my 12" e-penis
Tcguy85 04-16-2008, 02:43 AM and alpine is NOT good, minus their HU's like 4 years ago
the type-x sub might be ok, also the spx-pro comp set as well. haven't heard either but they have gotten good reviews. but alpine in general is just not that great.
nebster 04-16-2008, 02:51 AM i went and listened to them and you REALLY have to like alpine component sound to like them which i really don't so i disliked them.
Tcguy85 04-16-2008, 02:54 AM i went and listened to them and you REALLY have to like alpine component sound to like them which i really don't so i disliked them.
hmmmm interesting.
nebster 04-16-2008, 12:58 PM i don't have any formal education either but i think i'm more than qualified to state my opinion lol. i love SQ and tcguy and i talk about it all the time. if you knew what i was running (oh wait you can look in my profile) you'd know that i know whats good. and alpine is NOT good, minus their HU's like 4 years ago
I dont care *who you know* or *what you run*. completely irrelevant to me or this post :yawn:
since the only educational opinions that you have offered to this entire thread is that alpine is *not good minus their headunits*, maybe youd have better luck elaborating on that, while supporting your claims with evidence
its called experience which is worth its weight in gold. i don't need some fancy certification from school to tell me what sounds good.
trialsindude 04-16-2008, 01:37 PM Clean XB reminds me of SepaTc! with his audiobling!
I havent heard the word *bling* in quite some time now. let me guess, some kind of urban minority right? :P
Definitly SepaTc in disguise :yawn:
I think everyone should disregard what Clean XB is saying in this whole thread since he doesn't have formal education in 12volt.
trialsindude 04-16-2008, 10:45 PM Clean XB reminds me of SepaTc! with his audiobling!
I havent heard the word *bling* in quite some time now. let me guess, some kind of urban minority right? :P
Definitly SepaTc in disguise :yawn:
I think everyone should disregard what Clean XB is saying in this whole thread since he doesn't have formal education in 12volt.
Considering....considered...NO. Nice try though. I think you should be disregarded period since you have provided no relevant evidence in any of your posts. please continue in hopes of regainning your ego
Go back to your Hype-R since you think that it is the end all to all subs... :rofl:
BlckdOutTC 04-17-2008, 12:59 AM im not getting a system anymore, look where this thread went, can it be locked please?
Tcguy85 04-17-2008, 02:36 AM what do you mean? this thread is awesome! lots of good info! :)
nominal_asu 04-17-2008, 09:53 PM OMG it isnt SepaTc
its forpinks...
nebster 04-17-2008, 10:09 PM ITS A COMBINATION
THE WORST YET
lolz
trialsindude 04-17-2008, 11:34 PM Here you go this is what the Hype-R is good for:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=g4jXhZgAPp4
Tcguy85 04-18-2008, 12:08 AM i like the vid of the RF T2 that also came up on there. that thing smoked and smoked and smoked before it finally gave up.
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