Hopefully your responses will help me decide what to upgrade! :D

the paint

No armrest :(

no factory cruise control

the paint is crap and the shifting is notchy.

the paint is crap and the shifting is notchy.

Really?? The paint on mine is very good. No orange peel and nice finish. The shifter is smooth too. Granted it's not as slick as my RX8 but it's very good for its class.

What I don't like is the horm. Too whimpy sounding.

The steering wheel position doesn't seem centered with the driver, it feels like the wheel should be a few centimeters to the left.
Very easy to accidentally hit the horn.
the paint seems fine to me, just wish there was a more variety in colors.

my paint chips way too easily
and the car rattles...
oh and it needs a few more ponies =D

other then that i love it...

It needs about 30 more HP.

And I need better tires, terribly.

And the shifting can be a bit notchy.

It needs about 30 more HP.

And I need better tires, terribly.



30 more hp would be nice. :)

The tires that come on the xA RS are very good - Yokohama Avus H4s in 204/40/17. I'm sure whatever the regular tires are probably suck.

Another thing the xA NEEDS is equal length drive shafts. Way too much torque steer and more HP would make it even worse.

shifting is notchy, in part I sum that up to the cable shifter combined with a hydrolic clutch, seem's to have less feedback to my hand and foot. I really wish for factory sunroof. Ride is a little harsh but seem's to have settled.
Seat could use lumbar support and a few more adjustment's.
Color's are great.

window motors on mine suck, and needs to have armrests....

Wind blowing noise once past 45mph...some rattling sound from the trunk area (possibly the cargo liner steel bar thingy). Car is sitting too high from factory spec. The Enkei wheels are just too weak and big. The moonroof is just plain difficult to shut completely (no stopping point between the slide and tilt poinit). The center console box light only lights up when door is open. Climate control dials can use higher quality materials.

Overall, the car is still no bad :)

best bang for the buck, period!!!

With mine i have the rattleing in the back as well but i noticed this can be cleared up by putting the cover thingy in place. Even with the cover thingy in place i get a rattling from the far right part of the car. Just recently iam getting a rattling from where my cd player/ guages are. The stock speakers suck ___, except for the tweaters and i think ive blown 2-3 speakers so far cuz all they do now is rattle and ive had the car only 2 months. The stick ____ does stick a bit, but that doesnt bother me. The wind noise that you get from going fast, and the rattling of the windows when driving with them partly down. Lets see what else...The tires have no grip in rain and slid alot and skid. Yes we could use more then 108 hp, the fact that they also sell these things with such a high profile from the gorund makes me think they wanna sell those trd springs more in doing this.

Here are my nitpicks, I say nitpicks because I love the car, there are just a few things that could have been done better.

1. Notchy shifter. This causes me to grind gears going into 2nd more often than any other car I've owned.

2. Interior rattles. I have ratteling in the dash and the front doors.

3. A little more side bolstering in the seats, with side bolsters not going quite as high on the seat.

4. Torque steer. I notice this more when it's wet than any other time, since I get a little wheel spin before my traction control kicks in.

5, Road noise is a little excessive, but not too intrusive, especially with the volume up a bit :)

Overall though, love the car. Puts a smile on my face every time I get into it.

I don't like that I don't have an xA to keep my xB company.
Does that count? :D

Hey KevinxB, I think that does count! But another question for others, what is it about the paint that is so bad, and on what particular colors?
John A

the only thing that i truely dont like about mine is the fact that the cigerette lighter plug dosent stay on when the ignition is off. my cell is always pluged in and it dosent charge when the car is off. i WILL be fixing that problem SOON

There is a brand new armrest avaiable from Boomerang for Scion XA and XBs. It is injection molded, factory quality and comes with a 32 disc CD case that is designed to fit inside. The cost is $129.95 + $11 for shipping. Check it out at www.scionarmrest.com . You can also see what everyone on this site has said about it. http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=35693&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Thanks,
Chris
Boulder, CO

It's f*cking slow. The notchy shifter gets annoying, too, but damn this thing is slow. If I didn't have the Integra I think I'd go insane driving it :)

Also, I see no benefitting reason as to why going 70mph in 5th brings you to 4000rpms. Seems like a real waste of gas to me. a longer 4th and 5th gear would be wonderful...but would probably make the damn thing even slower.

The high RPMS 75mph at 3500rpms :evil: (there goes my MPG)
how about an extra gear LOL?

The arm rest would be nice...

Fog lights should be able to turn on with out head lights (thats a Toyota thing) :roll:

other than that Im ok with the rest...

The things I don't like about my egg:

1. In the rain it feels like my car is a bumper car with all the sliding when I turn
2. Needs an extra gear so that the highway doesn't negatively effect my gas mileage
3. When I use my brakes in the rain, it feels like the car is going to break in half at the front end.

Don't take this the wrong way, I love my car, but in the rain, it is some kind of accident waiting to happen.

The shifter sucks. They should have used teflon shift cable housings like Honda does to make it smooth.

An armrest would be nice.

The tires suck ___ and its mad drifting time in the rain yo. I'm getting some Kumhos in the spring to fix this problem.

Well, mine has a lot of upgrades, so I had to think a while to come up with something I don't like about it.

Then I remembered that the hood rattles when you are in gear, stopped at a traffic light, with the foot on the brake. We can't figure out how to make it stop. (It does not rattle in neutral.)

I guess I would have to agree that more horsepower would be nice. However, the downside is that I sacrificed 14 mpg to increase the horsepower like I did. Instead of getting 38 mpg, I only get 24. :oops:

What did you do to lose that much gas mileage? How much power did you increase it by?
Also while I can't say doing 80mph at 3,800 rpms is odd (ever driven a 2.0 Golf?), what is the gas mileage at that speed? Most of my driving is a constant excelleration from 0 to 45, then 45 to 60 then 60 to 0 repeat. Thats what a country road gets you. As a result I get around 23-24mpg in a 2.0 automatic Golf. This translates to..

550 miles a week at 23mpg, 23 gallons at 1.95, $44.85.
If the Scion, under this conditions with an auto manages 30mpg,
550 miles a week at 30mpg, 18 gallons at 1.95, $35.10, savings of $10 a week, $40 a month, and $480 a year. Over three years $1,440. Almost makes it worth switching to a Scion because I can remove that from teh cost of ownership ($14,000-$1,440, real cost $12,560)

Yeah, when you do the long-term math, a little gain in milage can make a big difference. When I first started looking into small econo cars, I was interested in two different Suzuki models (Reno and Forenza). Both nice cars for the money and each has a great warranty. The killer was the gas milage. They are only rated at 22/30! That sucks for a small car like that. The Scion xA's rating of 32/37 is 24% better. That's substantial.

I love my car, but there would be few things i would add:

1) arm rest
2)factory cruse control
3)variable intermittent wind shield wiper controls
4)hard plastic liner for the trunk and back of my rear sets

Some of the things I don't like about my '04 xA....

(1) Weak AC--it's just not up to 100 degree Southern California summers. I hear that not all xAs are so problematic, tho. My partner's Ford Focus will freeze you in 100+ degree heat, but then again, he has to drive a Focus. Also, my windows aren't tinted yet, and I think that might make some difference.

(2) No maplights--If you want to see anything at night, such as if you want to switch CDs, you'd have to turn on the domelight. Fortunately, one of my Xmas presents was the auto-dimming mirror, which has rectified that issue with its features.

(3) Many controls are not lit when using headlights, such as the mirrors, locks, and most of the windows. Also, as is the case in many cars now, there's no light in the glovebox. The maplight from my new mirror would probably help that issue, tho.

(4) Not enough HP. Of course, my previous car was a '91 Acura Legend LE, so that probably causes some bias.

(5) Variable speed on the intermittant wipers would be nice, but I usually just use the Mist feature if I have to use wipers more slowly than the intermittant allows.

(6) Suspension can be a bit too firm, especially on our poorly maintained California freeways.


But there are many things I love about this car...

(1) Great gas mileage
(2) Easy to parallel park and fit in compact spaces
(3) Good steering (especially in comparison to our Focus)
(4) Personality/the "unique" factor
(5) Power windows and locks are a good thing, especially the autodown on the driver's side
(6) Stops quickly
(7) Bright, well-aimed headlights
(8) Well designed parking and turn signal lights
(9) Floormats (how is that still not standard in other cars?)
(10) Cover for rear cargo

And I've gone on for too long...

Wish I got a 5spd instead of an automatic,,but that will change next summer

Hi guys

I am a new member here. I have a 7 months old xA. I noticed that there are few differences between the xA's sold here in Saudi Arabia and your xA's. Mine came up with an armrest, front and side airbags, fornt and rear distance sinsors and 15" Dunlop tires as standard.

The things I don't like about my car are:

(1) Wind noise at high speeds.
(2) The Dunlop tires are sucks; too noisy.
(3) Rear air suspension gives a strange noise.
(4) It has a bone-shaking ride at speeds over 150 kph (thats about 95 mph).

Mileage blows @ 80 plus, needs 6th desperatly.

interior lighting needs help, I put in the $8.00 Autozone lights.... much better.

The engine pulls very nicely for it's size and displacement, no complaints here. I can stay ahead of traffic with relative ease, and if I want to I can leave them in the dust (well.. till the next stoplight :P)

The only thing so far that I feel could be improved is the road noise, especially during rain when you can hear the rocks hit the tinny wheel well. VERY noisy! However, it can be fixed with some sound deadening and bedlining spray :D

a bigger engine than a motorcycle

What RPM's does it run at when going 70-75 instead of the 85-90 all you are talking about?

My Tercel runs 4,000 at 75 because of it only being a 4 speed.

What RPM's does it run at when going 70-75 instead of the 85-90 all you are talking about?

My Tercel runs 4,000 at 75 because of it only being a 4 speed.

And apparently so does the xA even in the fifth gear. :( When I test drove one and took it on the highway, I instinctively wanted to upshift from fifth gear twice. Heh. It feels like it's working a bit too hard up there but I'll be mostly driving it in the city.

What don't I like about my xA? hmmm..... :ponder: I don't like that it's dirty right now. Seriously though, I like pretty much everything about the car. I think the reason I'm so content with it, is because I have realistic expectations from it. It is a tiny little $13,000 economy car. It's not a luxury car, so I don't expect it to ride like one or have all the same goodies. It's not a performance car, so I don't expect it to be super fast or handle like a Ferrari. I think the xA does what it was designed to do very well. I have no regrets.

What RPM's does it run at when going 70-75 instead of the 85-90 all you are talking about?

My Tercel runs 4,000 at 75 because of it only being a 4 speed.

And apparently so does the xA even in the fifth gear. :( When I test drove one and took it on the highway, I instinctively wanted to upshift from fifth gear twice. Heh. It feels like it's working a bit too hard up there but I'll be mostly driving it in the city.

Damn... that's one of the major reasons that I want a 5 speed.

I'll have to keep thinking. I really like a lot of what the xA has to offer, but I'm gonna keep looking around to see if I can find something in my price range that's a little better. My biggest gripe? The speedometer being IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DASH!!! IT DOESN'T GO THERE!!!!

the thing i hate about my car is the dinky ___ horns i'm just about finished installing my new well used sparton horn those things are big and couldn't fit it behind the grill i'm making due
was going in today but i could find the drill and found the cordless drill with dead batteries :roll:

so i'm gonna get the beeeeep with the loud HONNNNNK more like a beeeeONNNNNNNNK :lol:

the ist in Japan has a plastic liner for the rear as I recall for available accessories.

The driver door rattles where the window buttons are.
The trunk rattles.
Not much power up a hill.
Paint chipped off right away, and is turning orange and it's only 6 months old.
Gas tank pops like it's full even though it's empty. It's taken me way too much time to fill up sometimes.

hmmm, weird, replys. i have no problems with my xA. though i had a bug before so the power difference doesnt bother me. turning isnt as good as my bug. but its still fun. driving in the rain and the snow i have no problems. not enough weight though. i was losing traction at one occasion. 70 miles an hour at 3500 rpm...... thats how the car gets its 35mpg. why complain? yeah its high rpms but its hardly using any gas at that. armrest would be VERY nice. and a free complete fabulous body kit with black cheryy paint to it :D

Mileage blows @ 80 plus, needs 6th desperatly.

interior lighting needs help, I put in the $8.00 Autozone lights.... much better.


80 MPH is illegal most everywhere I know of.... Why the rush? Slow it down and you'll get great mileage... I try to never get my baby above 60... even on 200+ mile trips... just kick back, take it easy, and listen to the tunes man....

Mileage blows @ 80 plus, needs 6th desperatly.

interior lighting needs help, I put in the $8.00 Autozone lights.... much better.


80 MPH is illegal most everywhere I know of.... Why the rush? Slow it down and you'll get great mileage... I try to never get my baby above 60... even on 200+ mile trips... just kick back, take it easy, and listen to the tunes man....

I know, right.

no factory cruise control

Amen! I-95 is a little too long to have to actually keep my foot on the pedal all the way.

What RPM's does it run at when going 70-75 instead of the 85-90 all you are talking about?

My Tercel runs 4,000 at 75 because of it only being a 4 speed.

And apparently so does the xA even in the fifth gear. :( When I test drove one and took it on the highway, I instinctively wanted to upshift from fifth gear twice. Heh. It feels like it's working a bit too hard up there but I'll be mostly driving it in the city.


I've noticed a lot of Japanese makes tend to have this issue. My old Honda CR-V (2000) roared at cruising speed. There's something about the way they make these smaller engines that results in a lot more revving than one would expect on the highway.

What RPM's does it run at when going 70-75 instead of the 85-90 all you are talking about?

My Tercel runs 4,000 at 75 because of it only being a 4 speed.

And apparently so does the xA even in the fifth gear. :( When I test drove one and took it on the highway, I instinctively wanted to upshift from fifth gear twice. Heh. It feels like it's working a bit too hard up there but I'll be mostly driving it in the city.

Damn... that's one of the major reasons that I want a 5 speed.

I'll have to keep thinking. I really like a lot of what the xA has to offer, but I'm gonna keep looking around to see if I can find something in my price range that's a little better. My biggest gripe? The speedometer being IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DASH!!! IT DOESN'T GO THERE!!!!

Ah, but you don't have to worry about the steering wheel blocking your view of the dash, do you? I've decided I like this arrangement, better than the old-school setup.

O.K., here goes.. I've had my 2005 for a little over two weeks now & I absolutley love it. I sold my totally impractical (10 mpg) 13 second 67 vw bug to buy one. My wish is that TRD would offer a supercharger or turbo for it, but I guess I'll have to buy the Blitz instead. The "whine" I have is that the rear wiper won't "stand off" in order to make cleaning the back glass easier. Other than that, I just hate the constant worrying :nails: of someone putting a ding in my new baby!

If I could change anything with the snap of my fingers I'd have a 6th gear, armrest, and cupholders for all three rear passengers intergrated into that armrest somehow... (Gues this is the only thing I miss from my Echo...)

However I can't just snap my fingers and have all this so I am happy with the car the way it is...

However the armrest thing might just be posible!

:D 8)

most toyota horns are wimpy...unfortunatly

My pet peeve with my xA is that you can't fold down the rear seats without removing the headrests if the front seats are all the way back

I just pull the front seat recline lever in order to alllow the rear seats to fold all the way down, then put the front seat backs to where they were... The rear headrest are somewhat Extra Large!

I think I saw a thread somewhere that sowed a smaller headrest being used for the other 2005 xA models that came after the production of the RS 1.

P.S.
One more thing I just noticed that I don't like...

The washer fluid won't spray when it is very cold in the morning. I don't know if it is the fluid that I used or if there is a problem. I'll go search for a thread about this now...

My '05 has the smaller rear headrests, so I can drop the backseats without moving the front seats or removing the headrests. Also, I park in my garage so my car has never gotten so cold that the washers didn't work. Maybe a different fluid might help. I've seen some that are supposed to resist freezing better than others.

Huge freakin' rear headrests...they are too big..haha

my rear seats folded down fine on my 05 with the headrests in, but i took them out anyway because I was getting too annoyed with them blocking my view checking my close blind spots trying to change lanes: people in CT drive like maniacs, and you gotta force your way into a lane most of the time during rush hour :)

ive had the wiper fluid problem too, passenger side sprayed fine but driver's side (you know, the important side) wouldn't go. I blamed it on the sh!t stuff the dealer put in my car when i bought the car in Dec, flushed most of the old stuff out and put some -20deg wiper fluid in, running the fluid for a bit after that seemed to mix up the old and new stuff nicely and pushed out the freeze, havent have a problem after that.

i agree there's a bit too much road noise on the highway, but like someone said if you just turn up the radio it's no problem heh

otherwise love it, i dont know why someone complained about needing lumbar support, maybe the 04 didnt have it but there's definitely a noticable lumbar support in the 05 seating. gets up to speed just fine getting on the highway (manual, cant say for auto), and have had no problem in snow or rain (non-RS, too, so no stability/traction control in my baby). In fact, I seemed to have a much better time of driving in these Northeastern blizzards than a LOT of other people were out on the roads.

I keep my two side rear headrests in plastic bags under the front seats. The center rear headrest will never be needed but is stored with the spare tire. I really do not expect to use any of the rear headrests but thought the police might be curious some day.

my only complaints are that it's a bit noisy and bumpy ride. Also the interior light doesn't come on automatically when you open the door , other than thats it's the best car ever!!!

Something is wrong with your car if the lights dont come on automaticly with the switch set to door.

oooh- you can set the switch to door? LOL I guess I'll have to try that.

oooh- you can set the switch to door? LOL I guess I'll have to try that.

Yeah...most dome lights are like that...there's Off, On, and Door for the front and the rear light. Yours are probably just on Off (I think that's the middle switch)

um- yeah they were in the off position...I feel kinda dumb now, but now I have light in my car at night!!

um- yeah they were in the off position...I feel kinda dumb now, but now I have light in my car at night!!

Don't feel dumb... I'm sure we've all had our own little "Duh, I shoulda known that..." moments from time to time!

If I had a dollar for every one I've experienced for myself, I'd probably have a lot of dollars!

:doh:

GAS guzzler at speeds of 80mph or more...and in pa...we like to make an hour drive in half the time....lol. A sixth gear would be nice, as well as cruise control for those long trips...other than that muh' xa is swell....

The number 1 thing I really didn't like were comments from xB owners... especially...

"Yeah, I chose the xB over the xA because it was more aerodynamic than the xA."

I have that clip recorded on a vcr tape from an unnamed local tv show.

The number 1 thing I really didn't like were comments from xB owners... especially...

"Yeah, I chose the xB over the xA because it was more aerodynamic than the xA."

LOL!

Im going with the No armrest.. thinking about getting one.

The number 1 thing I really didn't like were comments from xB owners... especially...

"Yeah, I chose the xB over the xA because it was more aerodynamic than the xA."

I have that clip recorded on a vcr tape from an unnamed local tv show.


OMG what kind of retard would say that???

You'd have to be blind to think the xB was more aerodynamic than anything other than a Ford Econoline van.

:rofl:

This could almost be it's own thread, "Things xA owners are sick of hearing..."

The number 2 thing I really didn't like hearing from xB owners

"I chose the xB over the xA because there's nothing like it in the US. The xA is too much like the Matrix and Vibe."

Hello! can anybody deny that the Element and Astro are as much like the xB as the Matrix and Vibe are like the xA!

~chris

i dont liek the lack of space for audio equipment. My JL10 is in a small powerwedge and it takes up 80% of my trunk. Anyone know or custom speaker boxes for xA's trunks like xB's can get?

I love my xA overall! The only complaint I have is the cheap "thin" clearcoat. BSP has already got fine scratches in paint! doh! :shock: :tap:

This could almost be it's own thread, "Things xA owners are sick of hearing..."

The number 2 thing I really didn't like hearing from xB owners

"I chose the xB over the xA because there's nothing like it in the US. The xA is too much like the Matrix and Vibe."

Hello! can anybody deny that the Element and Astro are as much like the xB as the Matrix and Vibe are like the xA!

~chris

LOL I've never heard anyone say the xA looks like anything else. If you mistake an xA for a Matrix you need your vision checked. That's hilarious.

The tC looks like another dime-a-dozen coupe, but the xA looks like nothing else on the road IMO.

I love my little XA. I wish that you could pop the hatch from inside though.

I dont like the fact that I cant afford a second xA :(

I love my little XA. I wish that you could pop the hatch from inside though.

Why?

Never heard of anyone ask for that feature... to be able to pop a hatchback from inside.

I love my little XA. I wish that you could pop the hatch from inside though.

Why?

Never heard of anyone ask for that feature... to be able to pop a hatchback from inside.



I don't know with SUV's you can pop them, or with cars you can pop the truck I just think that it would be a nice little button to have, for extra convieinence.

I love my little XA. I wish that you could pop the hatch from inside though.

Why?

Never heard of anyone ask for that feature... to be able to pop a hatchback from inside.



I don't know with SUV's you can pop them, or with cars you can pop the truck I just think that it would be a nice little button to have, for extra convieinence.

I love my little XA. I wish that you could pop the hatch from inside though.

Why . . . Have you found yourself stuck inside the hatch before?
You know you could always push the rear seat forward and just exit out one of the back doors. . . :lalala:

Don't own one yet, but the biggest ding on my book is the fact its an Economy car without cruise control..

Short Sighted Toytoa, manage to get cup lights but not cruise. :nope:

Overall the xA has proven to be a fantastic value. One year old and 33,000 reliable miles at 32-36MPG. It's tough to nit-pick an economy car, but areas for improvement include:

Paint - silver chips WAY too easily.
Shifter - definitely doesn not like fast/aggressive first to 2nd shifts. Also cannot aggressively downshift .
6th gear - Commuting at 75MPH - would be nice to drop the revs 500-1000 RPM.
Suspension - lots of body roll and the stock bits feel like they've lost what little compression damping they had....does not handle sharp, fast bumps well.
Armrest - would be nice
Wiper fluid froze in the xA but did not on our other vehicles - narrow lines?

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on the upside: reliable, efficient, easily and inexpensively upgradeable.

Don't own one yet, but the biggest ding on my book is the fact its an Economy car without cruise control..

Short Sighted Toytoa, manage to get cup lights but not cruise. :nope:


Cruise control is an aftermarket option which can be installed by the dealer, just like the cup lights.

Personally I've always found cruise control useless. Unless you are on a wide open highway with no other cars around what good is it, you have to keep disengaging it to prevent plowing into the back of someone. Driving with other people around you requires continual small adjustments to speed. I think cruise control is pretty useless in most situations and only serves a limited purpose on a long trip.

I've never used it much on any car I've had because I wind up with my right foot having nothing to do except try to avoid tapping the gas. :ttth:

^^^ What Rion said!

My dislikes are minor:

Two rattles from the hatch area and one from the drivers side door panel. Toyota fixed one from the rear, but couldn't duplicate the other 2.

Armrests - A center one would be nice, but I've gotten used to not having it. The ones in the door panels are way to low for me to actually use.

The rear washer just dribbles down the back window, A spray head would be better.

The paint chips very easily. I must have 30 stone chips on the hood after only 5 months of driving.

The radio controls are small and hard to find at night. You get used to it after a while, but what would be wrong with a volume knob?

The rear headrests are too big, but I just removed mine and store them under the front seats, You can even use one for a free center armrest, if you want. I seldom have anyone in the back, but they are onboard, just in case.

Some other comments:

The center mounted speedometer takes almost NO time to get used to. I was used to it in about 15 minutes.

Gas milage - I've averaged 34 MPG over 10,000 miles with the automatic. I drive mostly freeway and seldom drive over 70 MPH. Just look at the car, it's not the most aerodynamic car around. If you drive 80-90, what do you expect to happen to the gas milage? If you drive that fast, why are you complaining about the milage?

The car does what it is designed to do very well. It amazes me to see some of the things people complain about. If you didn't want a small economy car without a whole lot of power, why did you buy this car?

There are aftermarket armrests. A lot of cars don't come with armrests, actually most small cars, especially at this price, don't have one.

As far as the washer goes, there is a reason it dribbles. A spray-type one winds up sending most of the spray away from the window due to the eddying air behind the car when driving at highway speed, it would also require extending the jet thingy out a few inches so it could angle back at the window. The wiper is what cleans the window, not the nozzle. I have an xB, but my dribbler thing works just great.

I agree 100% with your last statement. People buy a car for $13,000 that comes practically loaded, has Toyota reliability and gets 35 mpg and they complain it doesn't have 200 hp, 3 sunroofs and DVD video screens.

I honestly think these cars are better than anyone has any right to expect for what they cost.

More Horse Pwr.

No standard keyless entry.

I wish the stock height was a little lower.
I really don't want to lower mine because of the additional maintanence it'll need in the long run, but...

FASTER FASTER FASTER FASTER FASTER FASTER more HP more HP......TURBO!! ......xA's are too slow...

Just a quick question....xB's have keyless entry standar,xA's do not. I am really wanting a keyless entry systen in my car. If you go to scion.com and look at the price for the SCION SECURITY upgrade there is only a $30.00 difference between the xA and xB. Does this mean that keyless entry for the xA is only $30.00? I wonder how much to install and why didn't they just throw this in as standard?

Its an extremely slow car...

In the wind it gets pushed around easy. Other than that I love how its a cheap, plain car you can personalize with what you want. Why pay $20K for a car with options you dont want when you can pay $13K and another $3K to personalize into a car that fits all your needs

I love the car, but I do have a few beefs.

No Cruise COntrol, but with an economy car such as this, that is to be expected.

The Stock Factory Tires Suck. I figure that Toyota thinks that we are all going to go out and get new Rims etc, but man, the stock ones blow.

I need the short shifter thingie as the stock shifter on my Manual feels weird to me.

Other than that? I can't say that I have too many complaints.

I wish the car had some more aftermarket support... Other than that, I cannot find almost anything I would change. The shifter is a bit notchy, but it is more than driveable compared to some cars I have been in.

And yes, the stock RE-92's SUCK I am running higher tire preassure in them to keep them from squishing about all the time. And they are pretty easy to lose in the wet (front ones overcome with 108 distraught ponies).

the tires, the rattling from the gauge cluster and passenger side door during certain bass notes, paint chipping, and uhh...horsies but what can I expect from 1.5 liters of raw pure balls power?! nah, for 1.5 liters it makes me pittle silly like. and yes...aftermarket support or lack thereof

I have had my xA for almost two weeks and love it! I don't get why people complain about anything with this ride. Try shopping features for $13,000 on other econo cars. I love my car for what it is...not what it isn't.

The problem as I see it is not the lack of rims, but rather the cheap tires (soft rubber than guarantees needing to be replaced at 20,000 miles) and the weight of the car.

If you were running racing slicks on a Hummer, you would slide less than the xA. Why? Because it weighs as much as a friggin mountain. The xA's wonderful gas mileage comes at a direct proportion to its disgustingly low weight. Even the best tires arent going to help a 2300lb car perform great... it simply doesnt have gravity forcing it into the ground to slow down as much as the average vehicle.

i have to say the gear ratio ......4,000 rpms @ 80 mph

There's only 2 things I don't care for about my Scion

1. A/C takes way to long to cool off!!! living in SoFLA it gets damn hot and when I jump in my car turn on the A/C flames shoot out of the vents and it takes 10-15 minutes to cool off.
2. No arm rests!!! I have no clue what to do with arm. Resting my wrists on the shifter gets uncomfortable.

Other the that I wouldn't change my Scion for anything!!!!

I have an automatic. I won't downshift until the car is warmed up and the blue light goes off, so for the first 5 minutes it really wastes gas. That's it. Other than that I LOVE IT!!! I bought an armrest for mine off of ebay. $100, and it's great!

sorry if im naive but how do u downshift in an auto box?

GAS guzzler at speeds of 80mph or more...

really i dont think cars that go above 70 gets good gas mileage


i hear alot about body roll... i took it at top speed and it drove like it was going 60 it felt really smooth

Lets see...
Stock tires: got ride of them in a week, now i have 17x7 inch rims with falken alzenis tires. Same weight as old stuff, much better grip in dry and wet.
Tire spin: have a dc strut bar, got ride of that problem
No arm rest: dealer gave me one for free as incentive to buy the car
Stock shifter sucks: i agree, but i installed my rs type short shifter two days ago, HUGE DIFFERENCE
More horsepower: i have an ingen short ram, platinum spark plugs, grounding wires, adjusted throttle cable, and my perrin lightweight pulley was just ordered today.
ummm what else, ohh i tinted the windows the second day i got the car, and i got keyless entry at the same time, both for under 200 bucks
body roll problem,: cleared up alot after rims, tires, and sturt bar
i till get incredible gas mileage, i judge it like this, if i cant remember the last time i refilled it, then im good. I also came from a modded 2001 nissan frontier, qucik truck (after the mods) but gas was about 10 mpg
paint chips: get the color code and go to ur autoparts store, for about 5 bucks you can fix all the chips
rattling, i dont hear it becasue im listening to the radio and the engine so i know when to shift....sometimes i drive a lil fast lol :P
as for gas mileage above 80, whatever, your going over 80, try it in any other car and see what mileage you get
so basically i fixed all the problems, and im in love with the car, thats kinda hard becasue imma muscle car guy, dad drives a 2003 cobra with 650rwhp and 700 torque, used to have a 1977 pontiac trans am
uncle has 1987 buick grand national runing high 9's and completely streetable
along with a 1980 camaro running 12's (off the nitrous) with a carburator nitrous setup (nitrous is set at 300 shot), and now its a fuel injected nitrous set up, well just have to see wht it runs now, lol
LOVE THE XA :bow:

The lack of financeing options kind of sucks, my credit score was 831, and the intrest rate scale stops at 730, most car companies would have given me 0% Toyata hung me with 5.55%. Cruse control would be nice.

part i hate is you can't tune it the way you want too just by using simple tools, you have to buy $$$ tools just to do stuff with the engine thats not very fun to do

i crashed my car. i didnt like it because it was not repairable. LOL

^^^ :rofl:

did you know that would of buffed right out

Love this car (and I looked at many cars). If I could change anything it would be add an arm rest for free (instead of the hundred bucks I spent) and include cruise control. Only thing that really bugs me is 3500+ RPM's when running at 70mph or more. Just turn the radio up to solve that annoyance.

I don't care for the height of the front seats; should be lowered.
The speedometer's KM round could be somewhat bigger, since driving in Canada was a pain with the numbers so small, it was too hard to get used to.
I wouldn't want such wide fenders, they'd look better more inside the car, or at least equalize them with the door panels.
The car should come standard with the tC wheels. Seriously.
Stock grill choices. Japan has two for the 2006—a single-bar and a triple-bar. The double-bar still looks nice, so it'd be neat to be allowed a choice when ordering. I'm not caring for the single-bar much anymore.
Engine compartment configuration. It's good and all, but replacing my headlights was a huge pain. Seriously, how the hell do you get your hands in there?
Rear door armrests. They're pretty much non-existent. This is too uncomfortable for long trips, guys.
Rear seats. I'd gladly give up trunk space for just a little more room in the rear.
Stereo system. More. Bass. Period.

I don't like:

- That the dealership forgot to configure the stereo properly. It needs to be set to know that it's in an xA, or it defaults to thinking it's in a tC and sounds pretty feeble. Press the SSP button for a few seconds to see what car your stereo thinks it's in.

- The paint chips dreadfully easily. It's almost like just looking at the hood causes paint to flake off. If you don't have any chips yet, then quickly go get some of that clear protective bra plastic stuff installed before it's too late!

- It's a FWD. I don't have to like that :)

- No limited slip diff combined with crap stock tires = squealy front inside wheel at any provocation in wet conditions.

- It's up on stilts and looks retarded, but I have some Goldline springs already just waiting for Koni shocks to solve that problem.

- Seat and seating position are very upright. Not particularly comfortable for long term driving.

Because this thread's only about stuff we don't like, I won't talk about the things I do like :)

I agree that the seats are too high, I have a long torso, and I'd gladly trade space for storing something underneath the seat for more headroom. I feel like I'm watching the roach from the very top of the windshield, and the rearview mirror and stupid windshield satellite antenna are too close together, taking up more precious windshield space. I've only had the car a week, I love it! BUT, it's raining this week in so cal, and I'm suprised that the rear windshield wiper doesnt have an adjustable intermittant setting, the front one too for that matter, how hard would it be to have one that you set the delay by twisting the knob? we have the technology. I dont really care that the stock tires suck, because I got some 18" wheels and tires (now totally wishing I'd have got 17s ...ugh. Great car at a great price, just some of my small gripes,
Oh yeah, and that the oven(center compartment) light only comes on when the doors are open is stupid.

Nitpicks ahoy!

1. The windshield wiper leaves a streak between the two wipers (especially when cleaning the window by squirting some fluid instead using it in the rain).
2. Some minor fit and finish issues (the radio doesn't look like it's mounted perfectly squarely on, theres a little seperation of the fabric on the front pillars by front doors (although this may be a side airbag design issue)).
3. My radio has a minor problem. When I first turn the car on on a cold morning, sometimes it changes the radio station by itself (up or down by .2 MHz). After a couple minutes this goes away, and it's only happened maybe four or five times or so.
4. I'm getting much less gas mileage than I think I should (although I think it's because I drive it hard sometimes in tough city traffic with very little highway miles). I'm getting 22 MPG or so on some fuel ups.

All of these problems are super-nitpicky, though. Mostly I love the car.

To clear up a couple things previously posted in this thread:

1. Cruise control is a dealer installed option, but only in states in the southeast, where there is a third party that has an (old) contract to be a go-between Toyota and dealers (who Toyota wants to get rid of but can't). It is not a Toyota option.
2. Armrests, however, are most certainly an option availble everywhere. I have one, and I'm glad my car came with it (I didn't order it specifically-I took the first car that came along with side airbags, and it had a spoiler, armrest, and floor mats already attached, and I didn't delete them).

Oh yeah, and that the oven(center compartment) light only comes on when the doors are open is stupid.

That is dumb. It should come on also when the interior lights come on via the switch (or be switched seperately even).

OK, I'm whining and I know it, but after 9 months of ownership (yet only 1525 miles, yes, 1525!), one thing that has really become an annoyance is all the little places that store water all over the car and make it a real pain in the ___ to dry after washing. The taillights, the window frames, the rocker panels, the mirrors, the headlights, the spoiler, the rear license lamps, the door handles, etc.... Just when you think you've got it all dried off, you go for a spin to the store and I'll be dammed if there isn't several water spots all over the place where the water managed to blow out from some hidden reservoir somewhere. I just wish Scion could do a better job of sealing things. When you spend 2-3 hours just washing your car, then try like hell to dry off every little nook & cranny, only to find a bunch of water spots after you drive it is just a real pain. Combine that with some of the worst paint I've ever seen and you become paranoid to try to remove the water spots because you fear you'll scratch the paint if there's a speck of dust in the area, is just plain disheartening.

Well, I'm done ranting. Aside from this, the car is a blast to drive and a great value.

:cry: :cry: :cry:

the newest thing i found is the clutch slips at high RPMS and i only have 2,600 miles

this car turns and stops like an animal which is what i like. But i wouldnt mind a few extra ponies... This car really lacks in the power department.
I would also like an armrest
A 6th gear would also have been a nice add on or a different final gear because when you crusing at 75 MPH that engine is running at almost 4000 RPM (not very fuel economic, running an engine constantly at those revs.)

I've had my car for 2 days... no complaints. I love it.. but here's a few things...

1. no arm rest (which you guys have covered already)
2. the fact that the moonroof is not an option on the car, or you cant find it on the car except a release series. Which is fine, mine is ordered and will be installed, but why isn't it an option?
3. Interminent wipers. Why not have a variable? Also the rear wiper (which i love!!) needs to be interminent as well

think thats about it :)

I bought the car cause it's a great bang for the buck. I'm a big fan of ABS.
Downside: I could really use an extra gear for mpg and to lessen the whine and rpms on the freeways.

The very best thing is I'm the only XA in my town :D

The very best thing is I'm the only XA in my town :D

Me too Me too!!!

:clap:

Lack of storage is a negative, but a very nice car otherwise

window motors on mine suck, and needs to have armrests....

Your back left one especially. What the hell is with that, anyway? Does mine suck, too? I dunno, I don't sit in the back seat that often...

Missing the arm rest! Trunk is a little small but great car for the price!!! :yawn:

The trunk is way small, but I agree...it's a cheap, reliable car. Who needs trunkspace?

I'll echo all the comments about rattling, especially when stopped with the brakes on and in gear, and the lack of power. I haven't noticed any tire problems, but then maybe I don't drive like you guys. ;-)

I also agree with the wind/road noise issue, especially at high speed. I haven't noticed torque steer, but again, I generally don't punch it when the light turns green...

There's a factory armrest accessory available, though not having an armrest never bothered me. And I think the stock audio system, speakers included, is very good--for a stock system. Having MP3 capability is nice, too. If you really want to crank it up, then yes, the bass is a bit weak and distortion does creep in at higher volume.

I guess handling grip could be better--I did get the car onto two wheels for a moment once when exiting an interstate a bit too fast, but I wouldn't have thought fast enough to roll the car (40-45 mph in a 25 mph exit ramp).

What else... I also hate my dealer-installed aftermarket cruise control. The stalk is ugly and counterintuitive to use, gets in the way of my left leg, and doesn't have any illumination at night (except for the green "on" LED). An illuminated factory stalk or, better, steering wheel-mounted cruise control controls would be great. (Does the '06 fix this?)

I guess that's about it. I love the car for in-town driving. The ride is a bit harsh, but it handles reasonably well. The seats are about the most comfortable I've sat in (comfortable as in supportive, not "cushy"). Visibility is very good.

Oh, almost forgot. I don't like that the A/C vents on the dashboard can't be adjusted/closed, only redirected. (Or is there something I'm missing?)

That's my $0.04 worth.

It would've been nice if the speedometer console were angled toward the driver like the echo, but I'll get used to it. I agree that the oven light should be on a switch. I love the auto-dimming mirror.

I love my little XA. I wish that you could pop the hatch from inside though.

Why . . . Have you found yourself stuck inside the hatch before?
You know you could always push the rear seat forward and just exit out one of the back doors. . . :lalala:

I drive people around a lot for work, and when they have luggage it'd be handy to not have to get out to open the trunk for them. Hmmm... i haven't gotten my "Thumper" auto xa FM yet, but i can't wait!! just a little over two weeks

My minor complaints:

Should have come with remote keyless entry.

What's with 3 different length wiper blades?

i got this car after driving around in a focus hatch for about a year. im partial to hatchbacks and i must say that this is this one of the most stylish hatches on the road. one thing i miss from my focus is a function on the factory radio. on the focus you can turn the radio on for an hour with putting the key in the ignition. that way if you were detailing your car you didnt have that annoying key remider bell ringing

i dont like that its winter and i aint drivin it :(

no factory cruise
and i cracked my bumper
Looking for a oem front bimper for a 2006 flint mica if anyone has one

The problem as I see it is not the lack of rims, but rather the cheap tires (soft rubber than guarantees needing to be replaced at 20,000 miles) and the weight of the car.

If you were running racing slicks on a Hummer, you would slide less than the xA. Why? Because it weighs as much as a friggin mountain. The xA's wonderful gas mileage comes at a direct proportion to its disgustingly low weight. Even the best tires arent going to help a 2300lb car perform great... it simply doesnt have gravity forcing it into the ground to slow down as much as the average vehicle.

I can understand why you might think that, but that isn't how it works in reality. There is much more involved in lateral grip and handling than just gravity. Suspension dynamics, weight distribution and lots of other little physics issues come into play.

According to your theory a 2000 lb Lotus Elise wouldn't handle as good as a Hummer with the same tires and the Elise is easily one of the top 3 production cars in the world as far as handling is concerned. Hummers on the other hand are goofy handling overweight beasts no matter what tire and wheel package you put on them. Weight is not generally considered a good thing in sportscars. Luxury cars perhaps, but not sportscars.

A lot of rattles all over the car..

I really like my xA, but it isn't perfect.
Sometimes I wish I had a dome light for the back seat too (or maybe pillar lights?).

Gas Mileage isnt even close to sticker specs, and i dont just dislike that i hate it to the point i am really disappointed i bought it

I agree somewhat with the previous post....My MPG is at about 35 in town,but that is all I drive..in Town(I am happy with this)but....This car is slow,noisy,suspension is horrid,rattles seem to pop up whenever,go away,then come back just to ____ you off. The front and rear windows all have a rattle when they are down even the slightest(the windsheild and hatch ratlle as well),did I mention the noise? The "black" interior was awesome at first....not so cool that I need to clean it everyday,I have cats and their hair seems to hitch a ride with me everyday to my interior(not to mention I smoke,ashes on the dash and interior really stand out and the lack of a real ashtray with a light???The "oven" is a joke,I would rather have a "useful" light(like I am really that quick to open my door,jump in,close the door,then be able to have a use for the timed light in there?I am very sad that I bought this car but there is pretty much no way out as of now,I have a loan through Toyota. I am not saying this is a bad car,but,if you drove it as much as I have in such a short period of time,I think you would feel the same as me.17k in 6 months....no highway...well, maybe 500 miles highway.

My MPG is at about 35 in town

Im getting 25-28 mostly highway
This past weekend i did this
I went to gas station
Topped off fuel tank #2 pump
Came back to same pump topped off after driveing
1/2 mile to highway drove 20 miles 60 mph
turned around 1/2 mile to gas station what did i get?

43.7 -1.525 gallons of gas = 28.6 mpg WTF!!! WTMF HELL kinda Shiite Is THAT?!!!! :flame:

GrantR said
That the dealership forgot to configure the stereo properly. It needs to be set to know that it's in an xA, or it defaults to thinking it's in a tC and sounds pretty feeble. Press the SSP button for a few seconds to see what car your stereo thinks it's in.

Mine too THANKS GRANTR!!!!!!!
Mine sounds much better now

The rear view mirror is HUGE in the 2006 xA. I'm 5'11" and it seems to take up a very large portion of my viewing area out the front window.

How long does it take to get use to the guages in the middle?

Now, keep in mind: I just drove it from the dealer this morning to work brand spankin' new.....

The rear view mirror is HUGE in the 2006 xA. I'm 5'11" and it seems to take up a very large portion of my viewing area out the front window.

How long does it take to get use to the guages in the middle?

Now, keep in mind: I just drove it from the dealer this morning to work brand spankin' new.....

Give it all time... Before you know it all these things will seem natural and other vehicles will become "abnormal" to you!
:rofl: :doh: 8) :lol:

I've had mine for almost 3 weeks now, only driven about 400 miles I think. Here's what I think could be improved.

- Variable intermittent wipers, including the rear window.
- Trunk release. I can't tell you how many times I've walked out of the grocery store with bags in both hands and wished I could pop the trunk with my alarm remote. Sure, you can find trunk poppers for cheap (if you consider $40 cheap), but it should have been standard.
- Bigger glove box. It barely fits my owner's book and flashlight.


Other than that, I love my xA. Some things bother me a little especially when I'm in a bad mood, like the rattle from the back somewhere and the lack of illumination on the mirror/light controls. But I'll fix those myself. I'm also planning on adding some accent lighting as well, that will be an easy mod.

Haven't taken delivery of my xA just yet (I pick it up tomorrow), but I just wish that it wouldn't sit as high...I am probably going to invest in springs to lower it. In addition, with some many other options standard on the car, I think that the auto dimming mirror, and an alarm ought to be standard...at the very least the alarm w/ keyless entry should be standard. Also there is really no reason to have the speedometer moved to the center of the car...it should be by the steering wheel. Other than that...the car is awesome...its very different from all the rest that is out there, and I like that. The mpg doesn't hurt either (I am not an environmentalist or anything...in fact they are the reason why gas prices keep going up with all of the restrictions that they want every year).
Scion did a good job with the 2006 xA. :D

Haven't taken delivery of my xA just yet (I pick it up tomorrow), but I just wish that it wouldn't sit as high...I am probably going to invest in springs to lower it. In addition, with some many other options standard on the car, I think that the auto dimming mirror, and an alarm ought to be standard...at the very least the alarm w/ keyless entry should be standard. Also there is really no reason to have the speedometer moved to the center of the car...it should be by the steering wheel. Other than that...the car is awesome...its very different from all the rest that is out there, and I like that. The mpg doesn't hurt either (I am not an environmentalist or anything...in fact they are the reason why gas prices keep going up with all of the restrictions that they want every year).
Scion did a good job with the 2006 xA. :D

I totally agree,but the speedometer is just fine where it's at... drive it and look down where the speedo "should" be then tell me different. I liked the placement better the first time I drove my xA(one of the few things I like about this car now though).

OOPs
1500 miles and the engine is stalling and sputtering at stop signs WTF

OOPs
1500 miles and the engine is stalling and sputtering at stop signs WTF

Take it to the dealer... that's what the warranty is for!

Hey, punxnotdead you are right...I picked up my car on the 22nd, and I have no problems with where the speedometer is. In fact, I think having it in the center is better in some ways! I don't know why I thought It was going to give me so much trouble and getting used to, but its fine. So all in all I LOVE the xA aside from those other things that I was just surprised that the car didn't come standard with considering how practically everything else is standard. Awesome car though so far.

My MPG is at about 35 in town

Im getting 25-28 mostly highway
This past weekend i did this
I went to gas station
Topped off fuel tank #2 pump
Came back to same pump topped off after driveing
1/2 mile to highway drove 20 miles 60 mph
turned around 1/2 mile to gas station what did i get?

43.7 -1.525 gallons of gas = 28.6 mpg WTF!!! WTMF HELL kinda Shiite Is THAT?!!!! :flame:

Its your driving style.At least 99% of it is..

I got my xa for a DD to save wear and tear on my stang.First couple of tanks of gas i thought the same thing.Mind you im a toyota tech and was saying WTF?.

Changed my driving style and gas mileage went up from 25~30 mpg to 40mpg.Just in driving style.Easy take offs never over 70 and just cruise..

38~40 is about the norm now.BUt i do notice at 75~80 it drinks a LOT more gas than at 70.

I agree toyota should have gave it a center arm rest.But for its price range and features its a great car.

The only thing I dont like about my xA is that there is no freakin cruse control....other than that I am really happy

The car is growing on me everyday.
Went to the epa website and found out average mileage reported for this car is around 29 mpg, They explain the shortcomings of how they estimate mileage.
Cruise Control needs to be a factory installed option for this car and the armrest would be nice too. But im still liking this car more and more. Whats funny is it looks small outside but seems bigger when sitting in it.

Like white99gt said, it's all in the driving style. I average 38-40 mpg, every tank. I drive the thing pretty conservatively , but have fun sometimes too. One thing is to not go over 65 on the highway. I took it up to 90 once and used a TON of gas. You will get passed a lot going 60 or 65 but you will get much better mileage, and also not get speeding tickets!

too true. I have noticed the lack of an additional highway gear. but realistically I dont think that these cars were made to be going 120 mph on a daily basis.

It's a city car, not a long distance cruiser. That should be obvious given it's origins.

I don't like the xA mirrors, they reflect too much... :eyebrow:

15,150 miles, needs to go in for service for fuel issues, power steering issues, and throttle cable adjustment..

Meh, i'm disappointed now. If this all continues I may just trade it in for the Yaris.

door armrests need to be padded, tend to get uncomfortable on real long drives...

a real type tilt wheel, like in my Lightning or my Mustang would be nice

and, more hp would always be nice, but I didn't buy the xA for that... I want fuel ecomomy baby!!! :D

mystery rattles, yeah, annoying, but I have had those in cars costing twice as much...most of the gripes I have read can all be modded pretty inexpensively, and doing those things makes it "your" car...which, after all, is what I was after when I bought this car...I have spent less than 500 bucks, and love the way it's coming out. There is always stuff that'll drive you nuts...but dollar for dollar, for the price, I really can't think of any other car I'd like to have. The xA is a unique, fun car. It's small, low hp, not a ton of pick up, but it'll get you where you want to go in good time...enjoy it, and make it "yours."

Same thing not getting better
30 mpg on the highway NOT 38 like i was sold

I'm glad we're not the only ones with rattle in the back. The xA we have is less than seven days old though, and already the paint horror stories worry me.

Yall might want to check your tag for some of your hatch rattles... Mine was kicking up a real fuss, I was about to take it back to the dealer for them to do something and just happened to find the tag was hitting the body. Put some foam on the tag for starters.

On my xA, which i had for a week now, theres a rattle inthe engine compartment that i hear. the source of that is the (on a stock with no mod on the intake) the stock intake hose has no bolt to hold it down. i still need to find the proper bolt to go in there.
as far as what I dont like is the seats, i need the back support and there is none in my xA

Oh yeah, and whose wise idea was it to have the power point powered to the ignition switch... how's one suppose to charge up your cell phone with the key out of the ignition?? :eyebrow:

^^Yeah, that is one thing that I really dislike about most cars. I need to re-do mine in order to get that feature, or put another plug in somewhere. Possibly a DIY on the way?

I could go either way on the power adapter turning off when the car is off. For some things (charging mobile phones as you say), it would be better forthe power adapter to stay on.

However, I mostly use my power adapter for my radar detector. For a radar detector, it is better that the power goes off when the car is off.

What would be nice is to have one of each type, or make it configurable.

I absolutely love my xA. Took some getting used to while driving. You don't need the extra HP if you follow the speed limits. Paint is beautiful and very glossy. I think I'll just leave mine the way it came.

Drive safely everyone!!

my gas mileage on the highway is terrible.. i can actually watch the gauge go down.

:flame:

my gas mileage on the highway is terrible.. i can actually watch the gauge go down.

:flame:

Dude, how fast are you driving? I keep it at 69/70 mph, and get 35 mpg straight highway (71 between Cinci and Cleveland), and 31 mpg combo city/highway. All I have done is add a K&N air filter. How many miles have you driven? My mileage increased after 3000 miles.

i'm not sure of the exact total, but probably around 1400 miles. and i usually do between 65 and 75 on the hwy.

i don't drive on the hwy that much. i filled up this morning - i'm averaging 26mpg.

:tap:

In my opinion.....

You can't beat the price. Not for a new car at least.

I don't have any problems with mine, thankfully.

no cruise controll, rattling noises, highspeed noises, thats it

no cruise controll, rattling noises, highspeed noises, thats it

the jealous looks from all of my co-workers who wished they owned a sexy xa just like me :)

:rofl: Funny thing is, the folks who kinda snickered when I first got it, and laughed out loud when I started modding, are now asking me where I got it, how much, etc...kinda hard to avoid how much fun this car is!

My suggestion to anyone who wants one...GET CRUISE! Makes a huge difference in mileage when traveling. Everything else I'd do aftermarket!

I dont like the rattling and bumpy ride.

The only thing I dont like about my xA is that there is no freakin cruse control....other than that I am really happy


+1 :icon_biggrin:

i hate the fact its an appliance that gets decent mpgs and a small gas tank

nothing.

Its easy to nit pick, and find fault with any system.
Even if I "owned" a Porchae Carrera-4, I'm sure there would be something about the car that I didn't like after driving it "X" amount of miles.

To some extent, you get what you pay for. Some cars you get less, for paying more $$ in comparison to the xA.

I don't like the lack of space in the rear, which was obvious when I bought the car but what wasn't obvious was the 4k revs at normal freeway speeds. Can't b hot on gas.

Performance :( i put so much time and money into my car, and only ended up with 96whp. FML

No AWD version in US. NO stiff spring coils w/o massive drop.
No rear disc brakes (as option form Toyota)...

Performance :( i put so much time and money into my car, and only ended up with 96whp. FML

What upgrades did you do? Just curious.

wheel gap.

and for those of you saying arm rest, they make it as an accessory, just put one in.

I don't think I would trade mpg for horse power, that's not why I got the car. (although I did trade mpg for nice shinny big rims).

Paint chips too easy, besides that it's been a great car

Paint chips too easy, besides that it's been a great car

thats so true. mine got tore up badly when i was having to commute on the freeway for a few months