This year I plan on trading in my '99 Sentra for either a '04 xA Automatic or '04 Corolla S Automatic. My main concern is the performance of the xA with the Automatic.

The one thing I noticed is that the xA has much more rear legroom than the Corolla. That is a good thing since my 6-year old son always complains about the legroom in my Sentra. :roll:


What are your thoughts?

Drive 'em both, see which one you like more. That's the most important thing. In terms of value for the price, the Scion wins hands down. To equip a Corolla S with the same stuff a scion has, you'd be looking at well over $17,000.

The corolla obviously has a more powerful engine, but it's heavier too. Between the 2, I'd say Scion, but I'm partial :wink:

You have to make this decision based on what feels better to you! Keep us posted. :D

Drive 'em both, see which one you like more. That's the most important thing. In terms of value for the price, the Scion wins hands down. To equip a Corolla S with the same stuff a scion has, you'd be looking at well over $17,000.

The corolla obviously has a more powerful engine, but it's heavier too. Between the 2, I'd say Scion, but I'm partial :wink:

You have to make this decision based on what feels better to you! Keep us posted. :D

Yeah, I got quoted around $18,487 for the Corolla S!! For that price I could get another Sentra but an SE-R. But the build quality of my Nissan or any Nissan is pathetic.

The corolla obviously has a more powerful engine, but it's heavier too. Between the 2, I'd say Scion, but I'm partial :wink:

Doesn't the tC have the same engine as a 'Rolla?

get a corolla, i smoke xA's goin up hill near my school all the time and they all have autos

drive them both and see and take ur kid too to see which one he likes and if he wants leg room go with xB take out the back seat and you can build a playpen half the size of the mc donalds

The corolla obviously has a more powerful engine, but it's heavier too. Between the 2, I'd say Scion, but I'm partial :wink:

Doesn't the tC have the same engine as a 'Rolla?

Nah, the rolla runs on the 1ZZ which has about 130hp. The tC runs on the Camry's engine... tho i forgot the name (160hp).

The 1ZZ in the rolla is also in the Pontiac Vibe (base), Toyota Matrix XR, and the MRS.

The rolla will be commin out with teh 2ZZ-GE this summer which puts out 170-180hp, this engine (which i used to have) is inside the VibeGT, MatrixXRS, and Lotus Elise. ((if you can wait for this baby.. its worth it!!))

Our xAs and xBs are runnin the 108hp 1NZ-FE which the Toyota Echo runs too.

But hey, since you've got a young child, ever consider the Toyta Matrix? it can haul alotta stuff and the base matrix shares teh current corolla's engine. Its priced round 16K me thinks...

but the lotus is specially tuned for 190hp with a price range starting at about 36k...i just talked to them about a special order for summer. thaz a crazy coincidence you mentioned it

but the lotus is specially tuned for 190hp with a price range starting at about 36k...i just talked to them about a special order for summer. thaz a crazy coincidence you mentioned it

My 2003 VibeGT was rated as 180 stock (tho i got it to right around 200 at the crank with mods). In 2004 the VibeGT and MatrixXRS were dumbed down 10hp for better emissions (which is whats happening to the CorollaXRS).

The Lotus Elise gets 190 cuz the intake and exhaust flow more freely (like my VibeGT did).

I'm an xB owner but I LOVE the xA as well. I also seriously considered at the Corolla S and Matrix before the xB stole my heart. I hope I don't get run off the board for what I'm about to say :D but here goes:

The Corolla S has more of a crush zone in the rear to protect back-seat passengers
Aftermarket Corolla parts are cheaper and more readily available.
Corollas can be had well below list price (see carsdirect.com)
The Corolla has more usable cargo room than the xA

I'm an xB owner but I LOVE the xA as well. I also seriously considered at the Corolla S and Matrix before the xB stole my heart. I hope I don't get run off the board for what I'm about to say :D but here goes:

The Corolla S has more of a crush zone in the rear to protect back-seat passengers
Aftermarket Corolla parts are cheaper and more readily available.
Corollas can be had well below list price (see carsdirect.com)
The Corolla has more usable cargo room than the xA TRAITOR!!!! ban ban ban abn abana abanaba aba ana ban ban abn abanab abanan i can't type that fast dammit. ban ban ban ban abna aban dammit you know what i am saying ban his sorry corolla loving ___, hahahahaha J/K it is true all true

This year I plan on trading in my '99 Sentra for either a '04 xA Automatic or '04 Corolla S Automatic. My main concern is the performance of the xA with the Automatic.

The one thing I noticed is that the xA has much more rear legroom than the Corolla. That is a good thing since my 6-year old son always complains about the legroom in my Sentra. :roll:


What are your thoughts?

yer six year old son complains about legroom? wut about when he gets taller??

Yeah, I got quoted around $18,487 for the Corolla S!! For that price I could get another Sentra but an SE-R. But the build quality of my Nissan or any Nissan is pathetic.

My buddy got his 04 Corolla S (manual) with everthing for 16k out the door. They sell these cars like crazy, so I bet you could get the price way down if you worked hard enough. With that said, the xA should should be hassle-free (most of the time), and for every 50 Corollas there will probably be 1 xA! Either way, you should end up with a quality car :)

This year I plan on trading in my '99 Sentra for either a '04 xA Automatic or '04 Corolla S Automatic. My main concern is the performance of the xA with the Automatic.

The one thing I noticed is that the xA has much more rear legroom than the Corolla. That is a good thing since my 6-year old son always complains about the legroom in my Sentra. :roll:


What are your thoughts?

yer six year old son complains about legroom? wut about when he gets taller??

At six years old it's about having to sit still in one place, not about leg room. At that age I used to complain about the leg room in my parents' 1969 Dodge Monaco, which was the sort of car that had to be registered with the DMV *and* the Coast Guard :wink:

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Hee hee hee :lol:

I just got quoted $15669 + tax and license from Stevens Creek Toyota for a Corolla S.
That price includes Automatic transmission, sunroof, rear spoiler and alloy wheels.

I also saw that I could add a supercharger later on if I wanted! :twisted:

Hmmmmmm................

that sounds like a good price for the 'rolla S , but it's not a Scion :wink:

Scion= Japanese made
Corolla= NOT Japanese made

Enough Said! 8)


And what's this about a Lotus? Why is Toyota in bed with Lotus? What's the deal?
Or is it because that engine is made by Yamaha?

[quote="Pablo xB"]Scion= Japanese made
Corolla= NOT Japanese made quote]

There are actually some Corollas that are built in Japan. However, most Japan built Corollas are base model CE's so I guess it wouldn't make a difference. :lol:

Sam

Ok, you people at dealerships? What would be the going price for a completely stock corolla CE, LE, and S? I'm talking about REAL price, none of this MSRP crap that means nothing. And I'm asking about BARE BONE ones.

Thank you! :D

Ok, you people at dealerships? What would be the going price for a completely stock corolla CE, LE, and S? I'm talking about REAL price, none of this MSRP crap that means nothing. And I'm asking about BARE BONE ones.

Thank you! :D

check www.edmunds.com

And what's this about a Lotus? Why is Toyota in bed with Lotus? What's the deal?
Or is it because that engine is made by Yamaha?

Because the 2ZZ-GE is awsome! Yah, very true its a Yamaha. Not that many production engines out there that can push 100hp per liter-plus, NA.

I have a Xa auto and love it. It goes pretty well but you can't be afraid to use that long skinny pedal on the right! Would more power be better/more fun? Sure but bang for the $$... not much better. My Xa seems to spend considerable time at full throttle but it doesn't mind!
ken

I have a Xa auto and love it. It goes pretty well but you can't be afraid to use that long skinny pedal on the right! Would more power be better/more fun? Sure but bang for the $$... not much better. My Xa seems to spend considerable time at full throttle but it doesn't mind!
ken

Hey Ken,

Do you have a picture of your xA? You have the color I like.

Jeff

Scion= Japanese made
Corolla= NOT Japanese made

Enough Said! 8)


And what's this about a Lotus? Why is Toyota in bed with Lotus? What's the deal?
Or is it because that engine is made by Yamaha?

That's true the Corolla is built here locally in Fremont, Ca. next to the Matrix/Vibe and Tacoma pickup.

That's true the Corolla is built here locally in Fremont, Ca. next to the Matrix/Vibe and Tacoma pickup.

the matrix is built in canada.

Jeff,
Sorry, no pics yet. It seems that every time I wash it and think about pics, it rains and makes the car a mess again. I hope to get some soon.
ken

I love my XA automatic. Ken's right - just gas it!

I test drive an xA automatic a few days ago and was pleasantly surprised how much giddyup it had for such a small engine. I'm getting one this weekend.

Toyota and Scion are NOT making this decision easy for me!!

I finally got a price quote on a 2004 xA with the following options I chose:
Rear spoiler, side impact airbags, automatic transmission and alloy wheels. My price $15,720.89 + tax and license.

Ok....great. Now I got another quote for this time a 2004 Corolla LE with the full leather interior with these options I chose:
ABS, sunroof, full leather interior, automatic transmission and alloy wheels my price
$15,995 + tax and license!!!

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Oh what you do for me Toyota!!................. :twisted:

Hmmm, that does sound like a tough decision. I don't mean to diss any xA owners, but I think I might have to go with the Corolla if I would afford it. I don't know, I might have to sleep on that one though. :D The sunroof is really tempting. does it have power everything?

Hmmm, that does sound like a tough decision. I don't mean to diss any xA owners, but I think I might have to go with the Corolla if I would afford it. I don't know, I might have to sleep on that one though. :D The sunroof is really tempting. does it have power everything?

It's loaded! The major plus for me is that Lexus style leather interior.

Hmmm, that does sound like a tough decision. I don't mean to diss any xA owners, but I think I might have to go with the Corolla if I would afford it. I don't know, I might have to sleep on that one though. :D The sunroof is really tempting. does it have power everything?

It's loaded! The major plus for me is that Lexus style leather interior.

Leather interior? It must be aftermarket right? I did'nt think you could get leather from the factory in the 'rolla :?:
What are they chargin you for that?

Hmmm, that does sound like a tough decision. I don't mean to diss any xA owners, but I think I might have to go with the Corolla if I would afford it. I don't know, I might have to sleep on that one though. :D The sunroof is really tempting. does it have power everything?

It's loaded! The major plus for me is that Lexus style leather interior.

Leather interior? It must be aftermarket right? I did'nt think you could get leather from the factory in the 'rolla :?:
What are they chargin you for that?

The leather interior is not aftermarket is in an option in the LE. See it at http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/2004/corolla/interior.html

C'mon, you know you want an Xa. There are too many Corollas out there. Join us... join us... join us... 8)

While I was driving my Xa out to Livermore to watch a dyno test I came up behind a Corolla S. I don't mean to dis any Corolla S owners but that is a "no personality lump" of a car. I'm sure it drives nice and has a little more power than the Xa but it looks like several million other cars.....

Just my opinion,
ken

The Corolla S is NOW not even being considered just like the Honda Civic EX Sedan.
I am now thinking 2004 Sentra SE-R, 2004 Mazda3 S or xA!!??

Am I crazy?

C'mon, you know you want an Xa. There are too many Corollas out there. Join us... join us... join us... 8)
But will I be swearing when I need power?!
I am constantly throwing out the "F" word in my CR-V when I need oomph to pass.

The Corolla S is NOW not even being considered just like the Honda Civic EX Sedan.
I am now thinking 2004 Sentra SE-R, 2004 Mazda3 S or xA!!??

Am I crazy?

what about the corolla xrs which will be here soon?

C'mon, you know you want an Xa. There are too many Corollas out there. Join us... join us... join us... 8)
But will I be swearing when I need power?!
I am constantly throwing out the "F" word in my CR-V when I need oomph to pass.

I laughed when I read your post, cause earlier today, I parked right next to an '04 Corolla S. And, my Scion dealer had given me the same car as a rental while I had a dealer related door ding, repaired. So, I am familiar with both cars.

Hands down, the Scion XA just looks better. The Corolla S looks like 20 other cars. Yes, it has more passing power, but my XA Auto with the AEM COI does just fine on the freeway.

It's kinda hard, I know, because the Corolla is such a dependable car, and it does come comparably priced as the XA. But, I think you'll smile more in a SCION :D

jr

C'mon, you know you want an Xa. There are too many Corollas out there. Join us... join us... join us... 8)
But will I be swearing when I need power?!
I am constantly throwing out the "F" word in my CR-V when I need oomph to pass.

I laughed when I read your post, cause earlier today, I parked right next to an '04 Corolla S. And, my Scion dealer had given me the same car as a rental while I had a dealer related door ding, repaired. So, I am familiar with both cars.

Hands down, the Scion XA just looks better. The Corolla S looks like 20 other cars. Yes, it has more passing power, but my XA Auto with the AEM COI does just fine on the freeway.

It's kinda hard, I know, because the Corolla is such a dependable car, and it does come comparably priced as the XA. But, I think you'll smile more in a SCION :D

jr

I just don't want to be disappointed later on if I buy an xA. My automatic 126-hp CR-V must take 11-12 seconds to reach 60 mph.

The Corolla S is NOW not even being considered just like the Honda Civic EX Sedan.
I am now thinking 2004 Sentra SE-R, 2004 Mazda3 S or xA!!??

Am I crazy?

what about the corolla xrs which will be here soon?
Will it come with a automatic? Because that is what I need.

i test drove both the manual and the automatic Xa because i was afraid that the automatic wouldn't be powerful enough.

i have to say there is very little difference IMO.

i chose the automatic becaue i commute 100+ miles a day, so for me the slight power difference was not worth the extra torture of stop and go traffic