Was watching the 10 o'clock fox 11 news tonight had had a report on how the CHP and all the county and city police departments are going to be cracking down on all car meets and a "O" TOLERANCE for modified cars. They were filming live at Porter Ranch at a local car meet.

With the way the economy is a lot of the police departments are hurting for money so TO ALL MY SCION BROTHERS AND SISTERS be careful out there and maybe stay on the low profile on meets and cruises.

I got pulled over the other day and he told me the exact same thing about the police departments hurting for funds. He did let me go with a warning no fix it ticket or anything.

Yea tell me about it! I got popped with a state ref ticket for the turbo. Be careful fellow scion owners!

i was at porter ranch tonight getting something to eat and saw a bunch of cars and decided to stay and check it out, as soon as i left there was cops in cars and bikes EVERYWHERE!!! left and right with cars pulled to the side with their hoods opened and people with hand cuffs watching their cars get towed. i had a cop infront of me and i needed to turn and i saw a 7-11 to the side so i parked and walked in like i was gonna get something, as soon as i saw the cops pulled someone over i jumped back in and booked it straight home. seriously car meets are getting burned out because people do burns out and act plain DUMB and it's not gonna get better for anyone and hopefully all of our scion team meets don't get burned as well. i'm probably gonna take off my header and exhaust and just put it on for shows because i got pulled over last saturday for exhaust and they checked under my hood too but i had an exhaust tickets recently fixed and the cop was like ok i'll let you go and said to me i suggest "puttting the stock exhaust back on because it's gonna get you in alot of trouble".

here is a link to the video of what was gonna go down tonight, please fellow scion owners. stay away and far away from car meets this summer because by what the officer said about impounding people's cars and throw them in jails. i won't want to hear anyone from here end up in that situation.
http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/local/Los_Angeles/FOX_11_News_Los_Angeles/SIG=14pii1lkj/**http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myfoxla.com%2Fmyfox%2Fpages%2FNews%2FDetail%3FcontentId%3D7163568%26version%3D1%26locale%3DEN-US%26layoutCode%3DVSTY%26pageId%3D3.2.1

What I don't understand is where they get the authority to impound your car or jail you if you're not actually participating in anything.

Good thing I'm staying legal with all my parts though! :D

Ya i didnt see the enitre thing I just caught the end of it. Even though I know "most" of us Scion peeps dont race anyways just be careful and any car meets you might be thinking of going to.

There might be a rat in our presents trying to find local scion meets on here.

sniff sniff..........all of a sudden I smell bacon :silly:

What I don't understand is where they get the authority to impound your car or jail you if you're not actually participating in anything.

Good thing I'm staying legal with all my parts though! :Didk man i got pulled over last sat and they made me open my hood and the cop told me you know i can impound your car for it being modified and not carb legal, he let me go with a warning telling me that the law against modified cars was gonna get rough and to change my exhaust back to the stock one because it is what gives you away meaning that you have modified the car in a way.

Doesn't there have to be a law implemented before they can start cracking down like this? Seriously this stuff is retarded, especially if they are going out there looking to give tickets to earn revenue for their station(s).

More money to be made on modified cars yes, but they should be policing the streets instead of messing with people not doing a damned thing. :?

Ya i didnt see the enitre thing I just caught the end of it. Even though I know "most" of us Scion peeps dont race anyways just be careful and any car meets you might be thinking of going to.

There might be a rat in our presents trying to find local scion meets on here.

sniff sniff..........all of a sudden I smell bacon :silly:i think that is what is going on and all meets should be cancelled for this month because they mean business this time. seriously they rolled like you would never see a car club roll and i mean DEEP in full force pulling anything over that had an aftermarket exhaust or anything modfied from the exterior like paint/bodykits...sad to see other car enthuist get arrested just because they want to hang out with others who care the sme interest. i say stay away from every possible meet for this weekend.

lets see what happens when the shows roll around

thats all im saying.

Doesn't there have to be a law implemented before they can start cracking down like this? Seriously this stuff is retarded, especially if they are going out there looking to give tickets to earn revenue for their station(s).

More money to be made on modified cars yes, but they should be policing the streets instead of messing with people not doing a damned thing. :?Chels, i'm pretty sure you have never been to the Porter Ranch and seriously it gets burned so quick and alot of people get busted. they used to throw meets there years ago and it got burned, brought it back years later and got burned again, now it's back yet it has gotten worst for everyone who has gone there.

Well, that's lame. Hopefully I won't be hassled when I take my car down for school.

Oh I figure it gets taken down pretty fast since there are a LOT of idiots who show off by revving, peeling, etc. on their way out or in that ruin it for the people who don't do that.

Still, doesn't there have to be some code or law to be able to go after people not doing anything illegal? They should at least be in unmarked cars watching them till they leave, THEN get them. Seriously, if you see a cop in your vicinity you're not going to goof off (if you're smart) but if you don't, well then you know what happens.

I hope OC doesn't start cracking down like LA..

Oh I figure it gets taken down pretty fast since there are a LOT of idiots who show off by revving, peeling, etc. on their way out or in that ruin it for the people who don't do that.

Still, doesn't there have to be some code or law to be able to go after people not doing anything illegal? They should at least be in unmarked cars watching them till they leave, THEN get them. Seriously, if you see a cop in your vicinity you're not going to goof off (if you're smart) but if you don't, well then you know what happens.

I hope OC doesn't start cracking down like LA..

It's not so much just of having your car parked and just chill'n there its when you get in your car start it up and put it in drive that makes in illegal.

Thats why they dont just roll up on everyone when there just sittin there, they wait till people are in the act of driving a illegal modified car.

There talking about any time of the day when a copper sees a car they think is illegally modified performance or exterior wise they're gonna pull you over.

I think every county is hurting right now so no one is safe in Killa Kali right now :nails:

all i know is im just driving my car to work and back and taking my girls bone stock 05 altima to school and anywhere we go.

This is a sad time right now for car lovers :cry:

man if i get rolled on 4 my tails im guna b p!$$ed :tap:

this is going to suck.. i saw it on the news too.. im deciding if i wanan take off my CAI and exhaust now.

Yea tell me about it! I got popped with a state ref ticket for the turbo. Be careful fellow scion owners!

lol i didnt know those pigs were smart enough to tell if it's a turbo or not

and HERE WE GO AGAIN, THOSE ASSHO$LES PULLING PEOPLE OVER FOR MONEY.

i HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE THOSE PIGS.

wow, well I guess the police state wide can change the rules anytime they like? So it's about money and not our safety? When is the line drawn between "serving people" and "serving the department". I guess it depends on how much income they are sucking in every month.

Ah well no more meets for me unless it's at a dealership maybe. Kind of sad. I know this will not stop the classic car meets from doing there thing. Hmmmm

wow, california sucks with they're "system"..
and its not the cops, its the government and "higher ups" that decided this, the cops are just doing there jobs.. but they are dicks still if they come off with attitudes. lol

This is not good , hopefully it dosnt get like this down in central florida :( or maybe it has ?

What I don't understand is where they get the authority to impound your car or jail you if you're not actually participating in anything.

Good thing I'm staying legal with all my parts though! :D

i'm wondering the same because where i live if they think you have a loud stereo its $500 fine plus impound for a damn noise ordinance ( not even DUI's get their cars impounded) and what people don't realize is that the car community (especially scions) are the only thing keeping the economy going. i'm glad i'm not in cali with you guys. i definately feel sorry for everyone there that has to deal with that stuff.

Yea tell me about it! I got popped with a state ref ticket for the turbo. Be careful fellow scion owners!

lol i didnt know those pigs were smart enough to tell if it's a turbo or not

and HERE WE GO AGAIN, THOSE ASSHO$LES PULLING PEOPLE OVER FOR MONEY.

i HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE THOSE PIGS.


Wow PIGS..... I kind of get offended when people say that. My father is actually a police officer and has been a good one as a matter of fact. 20+ yrs on the force and protecting and serving the city of Anaheim. Don't get me wrong there are bad ones out there too, but there are a lot of good ones too. Believe it or not, a lot of cops are into our scene too. One of our own fellow Scion owners for example Squirrel from Nor Cal is one of Oakland PD's finest and also a fellow Scion / Import enthusists just like us.

The point of the crackdowns are, numbers say that majority of these meet and greets lead and attract to illegal activity. Not technically saying you are doing something illegal. Its just they tend to attract the wrong attention. They may not know our lifestyle apart from the other all around meets, but they do know that Scion people are more mature and not so ricy.

why is modifying ur car so bad in cali? ive never heard of any of this type of stuff here in ny its nuts

What I don't understand is where they get the authority to impound your car or jail you if you're not actually participating in anything.

Good thing I'm staying legal with all my parts though! :Didk man i got pulled over last sat and they made me open my hood and the cop told me you know i can impound your car for it being modified and not carb legal, he let me go with a warning telling me that the law against modified cars was gonna get rough and to change my exhaust back to the stock one because it is what gives you away meaning that you have modified the car in a way.

i thought they couldnt make you do anything like pop your hood or search your car with out a search warrant? if you consent it, then thats a different story but i thought if you told them no...they couldnt do anything about it like arrest you and such....the funny thing is, last week when AlphaSQUAD was having there weekly meets at McD's off the 91 & McKinley, a cop straight up rolled by and didnt say sh1t...just rolled and left....and it was surprising cause we had a big and i mean BIG turn out that day....so idk

Most of it has to do with the Emissions Controls in CA. and the smog here when it comes to engine modifications.

What I don't understand is where they get the authority to impound your car or jail you if you're not actually participating in anything.

Good thing I'm staying legal with all my parts though! :Didk man i got pulled over last sat and they made me open my hood and the cop told me you know i can impound your car for it being modified and not carb legal, he let me go with a warning telling me that the law against modified cars was gonna get rough and to change my exhaust back to the stock one because it is what gives you away meaning that you have modified the car in a way.

i thought they couldnt make you do anything like pop your hood or search your car with out a search warrant? if you consent it, then thats a different story but i thought if you told them no...they couldnt do anything about it like arrest you and such....the funny thing is, last week when AlphaSQUAD was having there weekly meets at McD's off the 91 & McKinley, a pig straight up rolled by and didnt say sh1t...just rolled and left....and it was surprising cause we had a big and i mean BIG turn out that day....so idk

The reason is, it was a private meet and advised the cop that it was strictly our private meet and we were leaving as soon as we were done. Notice the "bird" even showed up and left?

What I don't understand is where they get the authority to impound your car or jail you if you're not actually participating in anything.

Good thing I'm staying legal with all my parts though! :Didk man i got pulled over last sat and they made me open my hood and the cop told me you know i can impound your car for it being modified and not carb legal, he let me go with a warning telling me that the law against modified cars was gonna get rough and to change my exhaust back to the stock one because it is what gives you away meaning that you have modified the car in a way.

i thought they couldnt make you do anything like pop your hood or search your car with out a search warrant? if you consent it, then thats a different story but i thought if you told them no...they couldnt do anything about it like arrest you and such....the funny thing is, last week when AlphaSQUAD was having there weekly meets at McD's off the 91 & McKinley, a cop straight up rolled by and didnt say sh1t...just rolled and left....and it was surprising cause we had a big and i mean BIG turn out that day....so idk

The reason is, it was a private meet and advised the cop that it was strictly our private meet and we were leaving as soon as we were done. Notice the "bird" even showed up and left?

na i didnt even notice the "bird"...but thats good to know...i also think there really cracking down in places where they know this is a problem....like AcidDrop said about Porter Ranch ...and i quote

"Porter Ranch and seriously it gets burned so quick and alot of people get busted. they used to throw meets there years ago and it got burned, brought it back years later and got burned again, now it's back yet it has gotten worst for everyone who has gone there.

so its like once something goes down in one place...they tend to keep watch in or around that area....another example is the streetraces that always use to go down in pasadena(i think...or was it pomona?)....anywho we just need to stay low since we dont do that type of stuff anyways...we just go to chill

oh my OP was edited in respect to kirbys pops...

Its those idiots that kill the car scene doing burnouts, peelouts, reving, etc. and now everyone is getting blamed for it.

did anyone see that CRX that wrapped around a tree and completely split in half off the 91 and lincoln this morning? that ____ was crazy...

/threadjack lol

So what if your modifications are all carb legal like from the dealership. Can they still bust you. ex Aem cold air or trd exhaust.

if the cop is out to get you yes.. but you can fight it in court.

So what if your modifications are all carb legal like from the dealership. Can they still bust you. ex Aem cold air or trd exhaust.

Cops in general, don't know jack about mods, they just know what they "look" like. You'll probably get pulled over, have the vehicle searched, and given a ticket anyway. If you're not, they'll try and find something to write a ticket for like tinted windows, no front license plate, a windshield crack, or something else relatively stupid.

wow, well I guess the police state wide can change the rules anytime they like? So it's about money and not our safety? When is the line drawn between "serving people" and "serving the department". I guess it depends on how much income they are sucking in every month.

Lol, you're kidding me right?

The entire nation is green. Period. Concepts like safety, Racism, Sexism, Due process, and everything is more or less a front. If they can make money off of you, they'll find a way to do it.

Take street racing for example, they continually tell you how dangerous it is when in actuality, less than 200 deaths occur NATIONWIDE per year. However, when you look at deaths related to alcohol consumption or even cell phone use, the number of deaths climbs is over 1,000 higher!

Are they going to eliminate alcohol consumption? Absolutely not, because alcohol is taxable. Are they going to get rid of cell phones? Nope, because majority convience allows for acceptable loss. Deaths are ok as long as the majority benefits.

Since we that mod our cars are in the minority, they target us under the disguise of "safety".

It's all BS.

i know cops in OC crack you down if they are d!cks or if you did something illegal to p!ss them off. while i was chilling at my audio guys place, all the cops from buena park to LAPD come over there to get their cars done. i talked to several of them and they told me yeah its illegal to modify the engine but why are they just gonna crack you down when your not doing anything wrong. like what they said, is dont do anything wrong and your fine. drawing attention will get you pulled over

wow, well I guess the police state wide can change the rules anytime they like? So it's about money and not our safety? When is the line drawn between "serving people" and "serving the department". I guess it depends on how much income they are sucking in every month.

Lol, you're kidding me right?

The entire nation is green. Period. Concepts like safety, Racism, Sexism, Due process, and everything is more or less a front. If they can make money off of you, they'll find a way to do it.

Take street racing for example, they continually tell you how dangerous it is when in actuality, less than 200 deaths occur NATIONWIDE per year. However, when you look at deaths related to alcohol consumption or even cell phone use, the number of deaths climbs is over 1,000 higher!

Are they going to eliminate alcohol consumption? Absolutely not, because alcohol is taxable. Are they going to get rid of cell phones? Nope, because majority convience allows for acceptable loss. Deaths are ok as long as the majority benefits.

Since we that mod our cars are in the minority, they target us under the disguise of "safety".

It's all BS.

No I am not kidding :) I was on the waiting list and passed my Police exam back in the 90's. Cops have a job to do and there are good one s and bad ones just like every where else in every industry Or one we just do not like cause they ruined our day but are good cops :) My motive to wanting to be a Cop was I felt I could make a diff. I have a good sense of honestly an integrity. That is def. not a joke and lost friends over it. I was also attracted to the great long term benefits and being a non-citizen has it's perks. However there are politics here and the mere fact that police have a quota to fill leads to human error and some will look for what ever they can to give out big $$ tickets. Money is the route to all evil?

This situation is what is a tad BS to me. I agree we are a minority and maybe in time more laws will be put into place to protect us :) :rofl: but for now I think even the good cops or cops that are our friends will be put under pressure to help save there department or jobs in the dapartment. Not good.

Well Marlon, regardless a death is a death...street racing, drugs, suicide, whatever. Street racing is still illeagal. It can be 1 or 2 million, its still one person dead.

Thank god I live in Southern Maryland. There is NO vehicle inspection once you buy the car for the life of owning the vehicle. If you sell, it does need to be re-inspected. It's not that way state-wide, but is for our county.

For the dealer-installed CARB-exempt or legal stuff, isn't there a plack or certificate that comes with it? Couldn't you just mount it in the engine bay or carry it with your registration? I'm not sure even a stubborn cop would fight the paperwork since it would be garenteed not to hold up in court.

I know here for our clubs, we hold all our meets on private property, either at our sponsoring dealership or local businesses who sanction the meets. That, and the reacetrack when we can get Scion corporate to help pitch in. Cops have rode through the dealer meets before but it's kind of hard for them to say we're tresspassing or anything when the dealer employees attend as well :rofl: Of course, we're all parked and not doing stupid stuff like burnouts.

Could I just show a picture of my xB in court as evidence I don't race it?

Well Marlon, regardless a death is a death...street racing, drugs, suicide, whatever. Street racing is still illeagal. It can be 1 or 2 million, its still one person dead.

I agree 100%, but call a spade, a spade.

For the police department to blatantly lie and say that street racing, modding your car, or even driving fast is dangerous is just nowhere grounded in fact.

How is it that on the Autobahn in Germany, drivers can legally reach speeds of up to 250mph + yet have the same accidents per year as we do on the 91 freeway? Maybe speed isn't the source of accidents, perhaps it's just our crappy driving tests? They don't even test you on parallel parking!

By the police department's reasoning, no one should be allowed to drive cars period, because there are more deaths caused by automobiles than any other form of transportation. Cell Phones should be banned 100% while in the car, as study after study has proven that the act of TALKING is what's dangerous, not holding a phone to one's ear. Alcohol just be banned too, because it's more dangerous than some illegal drugs in terms of abuse.

Will they ever do that? Absolutely not, because a few deaths, or even a lot of them, is ok in a capitalist society as long as the majority benefits from it.

I'm more or less ok with that notion, as are most people who use their cell phone, but let's keep it real. There are so many other LEGAL things that are thousands of times more dangerous than this crap.

I don't street race, but that doesn't keep me from seeing all the BS the media keeps trying shove down my throat. Not buying it... :nope:

Well Marlon, regardless a death is a death...street racing, drugs, suicide, whatever. Street racing is still illeagal. It can be 1 or 2 million, its still one person dead.

I agree 100%, but call a spade, a spade.

For the police department to blatantly lie and say that street racing, modding your car, or even driving fast is dangerous is just nowhere grounded in fact.

How is it that on the Autobahn in Germany, drivers can legally reach speeds of up to 250mph + yet have the same accidents per year as we do on the 91 freeway? Maybe speed isn't the source of accidents, perhaps it's just our crappy driving tests? They don't even test you on parallel parking!

By the police department's reasoning, no one should be allowed to drive cars period, because there are more deaths caused by automobiles than any other form of transportation. Cell Phones should be banned 100% while in the car, as study after study has proven that the act of TALKING is what's dangerous, not holding a phone to one's ear. Alcohol just be banned too, because it's more dangerous than some illegal drugs in terms of abuse.

Will they ever do that? Absolutely not, because a few deaths, or even a lot of them, is ok in a capitalist society as long as the majority benefits from it.

I'm more or less ok with that notion, as are most people who use their cell phone, but let's keep it real. There are so many other LEGAL things that are thousands of times more dangerous than this crap.

I don't street race, but that doesn't keep me from seeing all the BS the media keeps trying shove down my throat. Not buying it... :nope:

bottom line. Damn Fast N The Furious and Bow Wow. The media is one of the main reasons for this too.

In cali, it's technically illegal to modify your "muffler" period. It's not actually in the Vehicle Code, it's actually somewhere in the automotive retail/repair section of the state business codes (I think).

You can only "change" your muffler if you are replacing it with OEM or aftermarket equivalent (to OEM only). Anything else is considered a no-no. Even if the new muffler meets noise standards (95 db).

So if the officer sees an exhaust that "looks" or "sounds" "different", he automatically has "reasonable suspicion" that you're breaking THE LAW in some other way.

The above statement only addresses mufflers and noise. If the cop tries to tell you you're violating CARB by changing your muffler, smile and nod, and then fight it in court later.

After reading people's responses I'm not trying to bash cops in anyway, was just trying to inform you all about keeping a low profile.

I get pulled over alot and it is mostly for fix it ticket stuff. If your cool to the cop and just show them some respect they will be cool with you and work with you. All the times I have gotten pulled over they gave me warnings and did not assign me a fix it ticket or asked me to open the hood for an inspection. They have a job to do just like we have jobs that we get paid to do.

As long as you dont try & b.s. with them then everyone should be fine.

In my honest opinion I wish they would understand that car enthusiast with hunreds ot thousands of $$$ put into there car are really not the ones doing the racing and illegal activities. We're the ones that just want to hang out and have a good time and chill with other car lovers.

bottom line. Damn Fast N The Furious and Bow Wow. The media is one of the main reasons for this too.

+1

But on the flipside, many people wouldn't even know about the import scene if it weren't for those movies.

I was always a domestic Chevy guy that hated on "rice rockets". After seeing FATF? Changed my perspective. I was just lucky enough to buy a scion instead of a honda for my first tuner car, otherwise, I'd probably be revving at lights with jDm mUfFlErS!!11eleven

:p

bottom line. Damn Fast N The Furious and Bow Wow. The media is one of the main reasons for this too.

+1

But on the flipside, many people wouldn't even know about the import scene if it weren't for those movies.

I was always a domestic Chevy guy that hated on "rice rockets". After seeing FATF? Changed my perspective. I was just lucky enough to buy a scion instead of a honda for my first tuner car, otherwise, I'd probably be revving at lights with jDm mUfFlErS!!11eleven

:p

HAHA. Toretto Stop! Fox Undercover started covering the import scene back in 98 in Ontario and Comption street races. Totally gave us a negative image right there. All they showed were Hondas and Acuras. Cops don't know the difference, BUT they are going through training right now. Some city agencies like Chino Hills, Ontario, Rialto (I think), so agencies in SD have a street racing task force that just looks for illegally modified vehicles. In 1999-2000, I had 16 fix it, 1 evading arrest, 1 speed contest, 1 participating in illegal activity, and my favorite numerous violation code that says my headlights are too low w/ a lowering ticket. I sure learned my lesson from the Honda scene. lol. Since then.....I've been spot free.

Just an FYI. There are laws that cover most everything being discussed here. You can read about them here.

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=165444

Just an FYI. There are laws that cover most everything being discussed here. You can read about them here.

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=165444

Sorry Dad. haha.

If you dont already know ...

http://smogcheck.ca.gov/

No more State REF, and BAR!

For now..

They will still issue tickets. Just paying the fee is the only option now.

ummm.....

fudge fudge fudge fudge FUDGE!

im scared :nails:

Just an FYI. There are laws that cover most everything being discussed here. You can read about them here.

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=165444

Sorry Dad. haha.

LOL it's not me preaching, just the facts. It sucks for me because a performance sticker on the side of your car can be considered probable cause. So now I have been telling my customers to think hard on what you really want in your roll calls. :no:

Just an FYI. There are laws that cover most everything being discussed here. You can read about them here.

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=165444

Sorry Dad. haha.

LOL it's not me preaching, just the facts. It sucks for me because a performance sticker on the side of your car can be considered probable cause. So now I have been telling my customers to think hard on what you really want in your roll calls. :no:

yup that is true. But dont ever encourage the "clean" look because you will be out of business. lol.

I actually had the Anaheim PD Anniversary sticker on my Civic awhile back and still got nailed for my ride. lol. Oh cops business cards do work sometimes, BUT if you get an Old School cop he would get ____ed even more thinking you will get away with it especially when he is higher ranked than your father or relative or friend that is a cop.

after reading this, i realized something a couple days ago...

I was with my dad in my mom's gti (08, oem 18's, 5% tint on the back, 35% on the front, debadged gti emblems) and we were leaving the hospital, and a cop pulls us over for "Failure to signal" coming out of the parking lot, when there was 1 car on the road. now, is it me or is that just BS?

after reading this, i realized something a couple days ago...

I was with my dad in my mom's gti (08, oem 18's, 5% tint on the back, 35% on the front, debadged gti emblems) and we were leaving the hospital, and a cop pulls us over for "Failure to signal" coming out of the parking lot, when there was 1 car on the road. now, is it me or is that just BS?

There going to be picky about every little thing now.

As for us having modified vehicles are easy targets and on top of the $h!t List, since its easy to spot us and about a 100% chance they can find something on the car they can give us a ticket for.

wow, well I guess the police state wide can change the rules anytime they like? So it's about money and not our safety? When is the line drawn between "serving people" and "serving the department". I guess it depends on how much income they are sucking in every month.

Lol, you're kidding me right?

The entire nation is green. Period. Concepts like safety, Racism, Sexism, Due process, and everything is more or less a front. If they can make money off of you, they'll find a way to do it.

Take street racing for example, they continually tell you how dangerous it is when in actuality, less than 200 deaths occur NATIONWIDE per year. However, when you look at deaths related to alcohol consumption or even cell phone use, the number of deaths climbs is over 1,000 higher!

Are they going to eliminate alcohol consumption? Absolutely not, because alcohol is taxable. Are they going to get rid of cell phones? Nope, because majority convience allows for acceptable loss. Deaths are ok as long as the majority benefits.

Since we that mod our cars are in the minority, they target us under the disguise of "safety".

It's all BS.

No I am not kidding :) I was on the waiting list and passed my Police exam back in the 90's. Cops have a job to do and there are good one s and bad ones just like every where else in every industry Or one we just do not like cause they ruined our day but are good cops :) My motive to wanting to be a Cop was I felt I could make a diff. I have a good sense of honestly an integrity. That is def. not a joke and lost friends over it. I was also attracted to the great long term benefits and being a non-citizen has it's perks. However there are politics here and the mere fact that police have a quota to fill leads to human error and some will look for what ever they can to give out big $$ tickets. Money is the route to all evil?

This situation is what is a tad BS to me. I agree we are a minority and maybe in time more laws will be put into place to protect us :) :rofl: but for now I think even the good cops or cops that are our friends will be put under pressure to help save there department or jobs in the dapartment. Not good.


IT's called STEREOTYPING
we hate them theyhate us. it's really that simple.
why? becoz of other idiots who can't play fair and ruin it all for us. same thing with cops. They are hated becoz of other cops who don't play fair.

dis is the whole reason why I dont go to dumb meet and greets and joining a club. There will always be some tard messing it up. It can be someone from the club or just someone being dumb to catch your eye. Just like awhile back, I went to some meet in Burbank. It was cool for the 1st 5 min then, just went south from there. Oh well I guess keep layin low.

dis is the whole reason why I dont go to dumb meet and greets and joining a club. There will always be some tard messing it up. It can be someone from the club or just someone being dumb to catch your eye. Just like awhile back, I went to some meet in Burbank. It was cool for the 1st 5 min then, just went south from there. Oh well I guess keep layin low.team meets are clam and all car meets is more like everything goes. i see your from the valley, must be san fernando valley then huh, come by tonight at 7pm for the TeamSciontific meet on Woodley and Nordoff infront of the old vons and autozone.

im starting to feel it big time here.. most of the big meets are broken apart..... and i've got like 5 tickets in the last 2 days!!.. a friend of mine got like 9 in one day... there going crazy this shiz sucks..

not this crap again!

ok this is really starting to happen... my friend that lives down the street with a rsx-s just got a fix it ticket for exhaust.

just a warning.

anyone have word about san diego?

:nails::nails::nails::nails::nails::nails::nails::nails:

Damn B,

U so bored at work ur reviving year old threads?

holy crap hahaha lmfao i didnt notice the date :lol: crap feel so dumb haha

So glad I live in FL, land of the free. No emissions, no inspections, no front tags, barely a window tint law, makeshift seatbelt law, and list goes on including no helmet law for motorcycles....

come to Texas they dont care

Damn I was reading this post and was about to reply about it then notice the date 2008....lol
But seriously the cops are getting hungry again this past weekend I was pulled over twice in one hour heading to Summerfest2,no joke. Luckly I got away with only one tix but everyone be careful cops are hungry right now.

holy crap hahaha lmfao i didnt notice the date :lol: crap feel so dumb haha

I know what you mean I read through 2 1/2 pages was thinking in my head damn this blog got alot of responses in one day....lmao!

This post was so 2008 and im am so 2000 and late:confused:

i got pulled over with a completely stock tc for being too loud in irvine. again. yayyy

i got pulled over with a completely stock tc for being too loud in irvine. again. yayyy

?? what were you yelling out your window?? Cops really needed to stop you in a stock tC?

edit! lol. thanks James!

lol some one kill this thread. That post was like a year ago and your so mad you commented on it twice :)

lol some one kill this thread. That post was like a year ago and your so mad you commented on it twice :)

edited. thanks buddy. Im just angry today. LOL.

edit* lmao!

Lol @ this thread....

IBTL

edited. thanks buddy. Im just angry today. LOL.


lol! it's all good man :)

and someone called my mustang post old...

I like pizza.

i got pulled over with a completely stock tc for being too loud in irvine. again. yayyy


loL!!!!!


IBTL!!!

Hello........is this thing still on?

lmao!!!

This is not new, they have been doing this for a couple of years now, remember the one in burbank by the krispy cream and the one in northridge by the kmart, any meet that starts anywhere only lasts now and days for about 1 week now, so be smart and stay away from any car meet for now on and watch how you drive, don't give any 5-0 any reason to pull you over, if you have have a loud exhaust I suggest you change it to something that looks like stock, I used to have a magnaflow exhaust that was oval and it sat just like the stock one(it was painted black too), looked stock I went for like 2 years without any problems. Now I have a TRD one so I really do not worry about it that much anymore. The exhaust is usually the 1st give away for a modify car, also all those roll call of companie's parts you're rocking, those are dead giveaways too, I know we all want other people to know what we have, but its advertisement that cops can see, I have plenty of mods on my car that I would love to advertise, expecially the TRD S/C, but I don't, cause I don't want that attention. I actually live a couple of blocks from a police station and they don't bother me, even thou my car stands out I give them no reason to pull me over, so all I'm saying is be smart, cause 90 + % of the time if you got pull over, you prob. deserved to.

^x2 G, ever since i got rid of my exhaust the cops have stopped bugging me so i decided to finally go lower too LOL.

^x2 G, ever since i got rid of my exhaust the cops have stopped bugging me so i decided to finally go lower too LOL.

See what I mean, its the things we do its what gets us in trouble with the police, now there are occasional times where no matter what you do you're going to get pulled over, but I will not get into that one here, if you know what I mean lol

Yeah the bottom line is if you DONT want to be messed with by police officers DONT modify your car. For the people on Scionlife that call the cops "Pigs", you are all dumb because when someone is holding a gun to your head or someone broke into your house or something u wouldnt be calling the cops "pigs" then would you?

What I don't understand is where they get the authority to impound your car or jail you if you're not actually participating in anything.

Good thing I'm staying legal with all my parts though! :D

sorry noob question.. but what parts are "legal" or "illegal"?

my understanding is anything legal is tagged carb exempt.

sorry noob question.. but what parts are "legal" or "illegal"?

For the tC I believe the only 2 parts you can put on that are 50 state legal are: TRD S/C and TRD exhaust < which some people have gotten tickets for it, but have fought and won in court.

Yeah the bottom line is if you DONT want to be messed with by police officers DONT modify your car. For the people on Scionlife that call the cops "Pigs", you are all dumb because when someone is holding a gun to your head or someone broke into your house or something u wouldnt be calling the cops "pigs" then would you?

The only time I've ever had a gun pointed to my head was by a police officer because I looked "suspicious". BTW I was going to a church function, in an old plain 80's Toyota Corolla, with a suit on, looking for a parking space.

Police 'in general" as well as most of the laws about car safety are a load of crap.

i got pulled over with a completely stock tc for being too loud in irvine. again. yayyy


ahaha yup thats irvine. i hate living here:evil:

wow, alot of info. so much to chime in on.
I guess I'll start with this, regarding the races that someone mentioned in compton and ontario.

I actually work as a night warhouse manager directly in front of the starting line on Manville St. in Compton. There were races ther everynight during the summer. Its nothing new, those races date back at least to the late 70's. Some old timers would show up with thier beefy american made muscle cars, theyd come in like 15 cars deep and they'd go a few time and leave peacefully. when the Tuners would show up, they came in with 100+ just to watch maybe 2 races. bumping stereos, peeling out in the parking lots peeing all over the place breaking bottles. At that time I was rolling in my 78 Z28 so I wasn't too impressed with the overall attitude of the younger tuner crowd.

The difference between the two groups was that the old timers met at the starting line. The Tuners meet up somewhere, then roll over to the spot together. How frweakin' dumb is that. What could 50+ cars rolling in the same direction on a tuesday night possibly be up to?

Bumping loud butt music. basically having no respect for their surrouinding. Now don't get me wrong, illegal street racing, is illegal street racing no matter what you are driving. But don't say its less dangerous than talking on your cell while driving, or driving while intoxicated. thats just dumb. Dangerous is dangerous, a car that loses control has no sense of judgement, it will take whomever gets in its way. besides, what is at stake? just to show who can go faster? is that really worth losing your beloved car and having it crushed just so you could say you beat another guy? Or is it worth the risk of losing your life or causing someone else to lose theirs? Its not like there isn't raceways open for this type of racing.
You all just gotta chill out with this. The cops need to do what they have to do to feed their families. If it is against the law to roll around with a fart can then so be it. Move somewhere else. I got rid of my Z28 cuz I got tired of hassling with smog laws. I could have garaged her, made her a trailer queen and just taken her to some open tracks but forget that. It was just a car, there is more important things to spend time on(in my opinion) like friends and family. Scion Kreationz has met in the Same spot, everyother Friday for almost 5 years now. We don't have those problems because we act right. I guess that why it was so funny to me when we were being blamed for burning a meet a while back, turned out it wasn't us.
Well to all my Scion Brothers and Sisters, I hope yopu guys to get caught up in the fray with the chicken sh!t tickets. Cuz I know the majority of us don't race and we are in it for the love of the brand and the Comradeire that comes with it.
Be Carful either way, cuz you never know when a Rustang will be racing a Slowmaro and your Scion may get caught in the middle!

Peace!

So what about the Tanabe Medallion setup, they claim under 93db. I had one on my G37 and never attracted any unwanted attention. My mod list is going to be rather short when it comes to the engine, but the Tanabe Racing Medallion was one on the list. I'm pretty sure that's carb legal, and the under 93 db has to make it ok on the sound level.

Or at least I hope.

^it's not carb legal but if you get pulled over and a ticket for it then take it to the state ref so you can get your db level checked and and it's under 96.5 then you pass and they give you a paper to take to court showing proof that your exhaust is below the state's DB and you don't have to pay at all or maybe just the $25. BUT if you where to get pulled again then you already have your copy to show the cops that your exhaust is legal as long as you haven't modified anything else to it.

For the tC I believe the only 2 parts you can put on that are 50 state legal are: TRD S/C and TRD exhaust < which some people have gotten tickets for it, but have fought and won in court.
the AEM intake for the 05-06 tc is carb legal, for the 2nd gen xB the TRD intake is carb legal but both come with a paper saying it's carb legal so you have to keep that paper with you at all times that way cops won't try to hassle you as much.

the AEM intake for the 05-06 tc is carb legal, for the 2nd gen xB the TRD intake is carb legal but both come with a paper saying it's carb legal so you have to keep that paper with you at all times that way cops won't try to hassle you as much.

Are you sure, cause I looked around and did not find anything about that intake being carb legal, even the TRD one, which is an AEM re-badged is not carb legal.

yeah the tag on the AEM CAI for the 05-06 tc saids that it's carb legal, take a look at brian's car since he has the AEM from what i last remember. the xb2 has a sticker that goes on a panel where it's visable at all times that way if you where to get pulled over cops would be able to see it.

wow, alot of info. so much to chime in on.
I guess I'll start with this, regarding the races that someone mentioned in compton and ontario.

I actually work as a night warhouse manager directly in front of the starting line on Manville St. in Compton. There were races ther everynight during the summer. Its nothing new, those races date back at least to the late 70's. Some old timers would show up with thier beefy american made muscle cars, theyd come in like 15 cars deep and they'd go a few time and leave peacefully. when the Tuners would show up, they came in with 100+ just to watch maybe 2 races. bumping stereos, peeling out in the parking lots peeing all over the place breaking bottles. At that time I was rolling in my 78 Z28 so I wasn't too impressed with the overall attitude of the younger tuner crowd.

The difference between the two groups was that the old timers met at the starting line. The Tuners meet up somewhere, then roll over to the spot together. How frweakin' dumb is that. What could 50+ cars rolling in the same direction on a tuesday night possibly be up to?

Bumping loud butt music. basically having no respect for their surrouinding. Now don't get me wrong, illegal street racing, is illegal street racing no matter what you are driving. But don't say its less dangerous than talking on your cell while driving, or driving while intoxicated. thats just dumb. Dangerous is dangerous, a car that loses control has no sense of judgement, it will take whomever gets in its way. besides, what is at stake? just to show who can go faster? is that really worth losing your beloved car and having it crushed just so you could say you beat another guy? Or is it worth the risk of losing your life or causing someone else to lose theirs? Its not like there isn't raceways open for this type of racing.
You all just gotta chill out with this. The cops need to do what they have to do to feed their families. If it is against the law to roll around with a fart can then so be it. Move somewhere else. I got rid of my Z28 cuz I got tired of hassling with smog laws. I could have garaged her, made her a trailer queen and just taken her to some open tracks but forget that. It was just a car, there is more important things to spend time on(in my opinion) like friends and family. Scion Kreationz has met in the Same spot, everyother Friday for almost 5 years now. We don't have those problems because we act right. I guess that why it was so funny to me when we were being blamed for burning a meet a while back, turned out it wasn't us.
Well to all my Scion Brothers and Sisters, I hope yopu guys to get caught up in the fray with the chicken sh!t tickets. Cuz I know the majority of us don't race and we are in it for the love of the brand and the Comradeire that comes with it.
Be Carful either way, cuz you never know when a Rustang will be racing a Slowmaro and your Scion may get caught in the middle!

Peace!




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that says it all right there!!!

it gets worse and worse every year. im really glad i have never gotten a ticket on my tC.

i can still remember the days at glenoaks and sometimes saticoy where 50+ some odd cars would roll up at a gas station lol. i got stopped once on my 94 accord while idle. when the cops crashed the race, i didn't sped off like everyone did...bad idea because i was the one who got the hit, ticket for riding low, no front plate, exhaust, custom paint lol. besides my car was slow as hell and it was built on streetglows in and out so even if i speed off the scene i'd still be the last car. i wasn't complaining though, the ladies loved it haha...fun times. i also remembered a car burning rubber right in front of the cop...what in the world was he/she thinking. that was then, this is now and i still see peeps doing dumb ish as if the 1st fast and furious move just came out.

this is wack a me and my pops got poped for tint on the 154 hwy heading to santa barbarra. its not just over ther its also here in the 805 area.

ahaha yup thats irvine. i hate living here:evil:

haha! aww. time to move out son! i am pretty sure the motorcycle cops were just trying to find a reason to give out tickets that day. but in general, irvine is really really mean. Oh! and i hate how hard it is to find a legal uturn. center dividers are not my friends.

^ went to sprinkles near irvine recently.. friends said the cops pull people over since they have nothing better to do, literally. irvine is a real nice and clean city so the cops don't have much to do around there