Bon
Allscion -- an e-commerce website with news and accessories for your Scions
http://www.allscion.com/store


http://www.autobloggreen.com/2008/10/27/scion-iq-looking-more-and-more-likely-in-u-s/



The hints from a few weeks ago that Toyota would be bringing the tiny iQ to the U.S. with a Scion badge are looking more and more like the truth. AutoblogGreen reader Mark F. got an email from his local Scion dealer, Bill Kidd's in Maryland, that describes "The Future of Scion." The full update on the Scion brand reads as follows:

Scion is recognized world wide for their distinctive and customizable models, with the dependability of a Toyota product. Recently, the Scion xD was recognized by Consumer Reports as the #1 reliable new car with 80% less problems than the average model. Scion remains committed to bringing Gen Y buyers a unique, yet affordable vehicle, and 2010 is sure to be the biggest year yet. The highly anticipated, newly redesigned tC will be released, as well as an all new vehicle: The Scion IQ. As the smallest, most fuel efficient Scion, it's sure to turn heads. Stay tuned!

Nothing new there, but hearing from a dealer that the Scion iQ is on the way in 2010 is about at much confirmation as we're likely to get right now, isn't it?

http://www.autobloggreen.com/photos/frankfurt-2007-toyota-iq-concept/394184/

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autobloggreen.com/media/2007/09/toyota_iq_press_1280_04.jpg

Here's an early comparison (June 24th, 2008) between the iQ And The Smart Car:


http://toyotaiqcar.com/compare/compare-the-toyota-iq-and-the-smart-car/

the front looks like a mad dog..

the back looks like a mad dog with bloodshot red eyes

cool it also said redesigned scion tc somewhere in the article

It looks coo

So what's the probability of this car actually getting 65mpg? That must be a quote from the diesel engine.

you do realize that is the concept photo and not the production photo.

i want one.
i really seriously do.

IMHO, I think the production version actually looks BETTER than the concept.

ewwww!!!!!!
new tc FTW!

where does that fall in the lineup? Below the xD?

looks very cute.

This little car has been discussed between the team-ist guys for a while

http://team-ist.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2423

http://team-ist.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2833

Modellista already has concepts for a tuned version:

http://team-ist.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2864

Fail! might as well throw this one in with the recycle bin with the xA and xD. altho the xD is coming out slowly. this might be the car that eveyone will point and laugh. I can only see 18 year johnny rollin to school in this one. haha

Fail! might as well throw this one in with the recycle bin with the xA and xD.

Yes, because the ginornmous 'new' xB is selling SOOOO well. :rofl:

Yea, it should be here mid-2010.
The above are the concept pics... here are the production pics from Geneva (it will probably undergo some minor tweaks before hitting the states).
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q44/burstaneurysm/phpThumb_generated_thumbnailjpg-2.jpg
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q44/burstaneurysm/phpThumb_generated_thumbnailjpg-1.jpg
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q44/burstaneurysm/phpThumb_generated_thumbnailjpg.jpg


I really think this will sell well for Toyota. Look at how well the Smart is doing, and that thing needs premium gas and doesn't even do all that well in the MPG battle.

id get this.
lower it.
rims.
swap the motor and/or turbo it
gut it.

BYE!

im totally getting one of these

They should stick some Scion badges on it and call it the new xA.
Make the Scion line up a 4 car show.

:cry: im already getting prepared for the tons of insults ill receive for being a scion owner after this.

woot!

very cool

kind of looks like a squished up xD with the front top grill closed up. not really liking it...

:cry: im already getting prepared for the tons of insults ill receive for being a scion owner after this.


what are you talking about? the vehicle industry is all about the mpg battle now...and if this gets the proposed amount...as well as going looks wise against the smart fortwo...this will make a killing...toyota/scion would make a huge name for themselves with this car...and besides....just because you drive a tc doesn't mean you're gonna get flamed for having a scion if they have one of these little mpg masters under their belt...


and look at the bright side...get one...gut it....throw a busa 1300 under there and you got a lot better looking iQ devil....the smart devil just doesn't have the looks....they're ugly....this is actually stylish...

ive know about this for several months where have you all been?

yeah but the general ignorant public links all scions together. if they think one is bad then, me, as a scion tC owner will get pwned. lol.

they will say, "oh...you own a scion". either way im proud to be a tc owner beyond a dought. :clap:

i just think it will take "gas guzzling" americans to get used to this one. :lalala:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGyRZLMUySM





:pray:

BALLIN!

i want one... SO BAD!

Where's the list I want one NOW! :D

looks cool

i may pick one up if its priced right

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q44/burstaneurysm/phpThumb_generated_thumbnailjpg-2.jpg

Squashed M-Class Benz?

ive know about this for several months where have you all been?

I've known it for several months as well but Toyota just announced it a few weeks ago for it to be in the Scion lineup.

volks, coilovers and a bada$$ sound system should do me well.

all great ideas. I'll be waiting for that guy to fork the cash over to build the copycay Smart with a busa motor in it. Volks on it? not gonna happen. Scion will dump all kinds of money into custom builds and still no one will care. still a clown car no matter how you dice it

They would have to price this pretty low...near 10,000, I would think. After all, it would have to be a lower price point than the already cheap Yaris, at 2009 price of 12,205.

Maybe half the price of the 5-door Yaris hatchback?

http://image.automobilemag.com/f/car-news/2009-toyota-yaris-pricing-announced/10187363+cr1+re0+ar1/2009-toyota-yaris-five-door-liftback.jpg

yeah but the general ignorant public links all scions together. if they think one is bad then, me, as a scion tC owner will get pwned. lol.

they will say, "oh...you own a scion". either way im proud to be a tc owner beyond a dought. :clap:

Um...doubt?

If we're honest with ourselves, the vehicle most closely associated with Scion is the Gen 1 xB. Scion knows this - look at how prominently it features in the Scion United commercial, even though they're whoring out a car they exectued. So if you haven't already taken sh!t for being the cousin of a mutant toaster, I wouldn't worry about the iQ.

In my opinion, bringing the iQ stateside as a Scion is about all Toyota could do to save Scion after the porked-out xB2 and stale, un-refreshed tC have nearly killed the brand.

Ironically, you're ABSOLUTELY RIGHT - the average fat, old, boring, SUV-obsessed American will shun the iQ, and Scion with it...leaving our brand alone for the edgy and smart people. Exactly like it was originally, and exactly like it should be.

If you want so desperately to be mainstream: for your next car, might I suggest a Corolla?

Benz already beat them to it, its called a SMART. I thought the xb gen 2 was the future, small exterior cars, with big interior space and great performance and fuel economy?

It's not a bad looking car, it looks more like a normal car than a SmartCar, which I think is a good thing for people who want an efficient commuter but not something that stands out like a moon rover.

I wouldn't spell it as "iQ" though... personally I am tired of the "stick an 'i' in front of it and it's cool" fad, unless you are Apple you are done with iThings! Plus I want to pronounce it the "Scion Ick" hehehe... Maybe the "IQ" to emphasize the acronym?

It's not my style.

This has seriously, seriously made my day.

:cry: im already getting prepared for the tons of insults ill receive for being a scion owner after this.

tell me about it

it looks like the old Tasmanian devils
that i cant seem to find pictures of
not the point though what is scion thinking?

The car looks sweet, and prime for FI! My only concern is that at 6' in height I would look like a circus bear riding a tiny bike.
Although, I still would want one, if the price is good.

not interested in that small thing....cool concept though...i think it'll sell well.

more worried if they *screw* up the tC...
if they change it like the xB, as much as they did, i'll hate it.



...1st gen xB ftw.


what about the name though? Scion iQ? no x!?!?! :P

I wouldn't spell it as "iQ" though... personally I am tired of the "stick an 'i' in front of it and it's cool" fad, unless you are Apple you are done with iThings! Plus I want to pronounce it the "Scion Ick" hehehe... Maybe the "IQ" to emphasize the acronym?

Actually, the name is one of the best parts. It's "iQ", as in intelligence quotient. A total slam on the "Smart" car. To keep it in line with the rest of the Scions, the first letter is lower case...

The Smart had so many opportunities that they totally missed out on. I hope the iQ takes advantage...price point, stellar MPG. The Smart is really expensive, and the gas mileage is only ok. Done right, the iQ will KILL!

ive know about this for several months where have you all been?

Well good freaking do for you. :loser:

This car looks sweet. I've been watching it for several months now since it debuted in Japan. If it comes stateside I might have to get one. I already have lots of great ideas for stuff to do to it.

I'd hope they keep the iQ name for the US for Scion. Scion is supposed to be edgy and anti-corporate so are they going with a corporate naming scheme? I also don't like the idea of a corporate face with the xB and the tC now using the same grill. Scion's products need to be distinct from most other things on the market and from each other.

They're probably rename it xQ.

more worried if they *screw* up the tC...
if they change it like the xB, as much as they did, i'll hate it.
...1st gen xB ftw.


lol, i think this every time I see a tC owner saying "WHOOOO CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEW ONE!"

I'm like "um...you did see what happened to us....right?"

If I was you guys, I'd be nervous as hell. If this is xB2 The Sequel, it's going to be a rebadged camry. :P

:cry: im already getting prepared for the tons of insults ill receive for being a scion owner after this.

why? that car is sweet!

I'm going to have to get myself into a new 370Z before this thing gets produced...

They're probably rename it xQ.

how about cC....

I'm going to have to get myself into a new 370Z before this thing gets produced...

It's already in production, not here tho.

I am so waiting for the IQ-don't know if I'll buy one but I loved the smart car and a Toy-ota version of the same thing-that will be awesome!

more worried if they *screw* up the tC...
if they change it like the xB, as much as they did, i'll hate it.
...1st gen xB ftw.


lol, i think this every time I see a tC owner saying "WHOOOO CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEW ONE!"

I'm like "um...you did see what happened to us....right?"

If I was you guys, I'd be nervous as hell. If this is xB2 The Sequel, it's going to be a rebadged camry. :P


exactly how i feel...and i kinda want the new one w/ the 2.5L if it's true....

...just so long as it doesnt turn into the xB2 of tC's....! MINOR tweaks...ONLY.

...pretty much change i feel about Scion if that happens....murderers of the xB...not the tC!!! Please!!?

:P

Diesel engine option please and thank you.

Just sayin'.

Well, it's already on sale in Europe and it run you about $12,000 US dollars.
It's supose to get about 65 MPG but i think that's the diesel version.
So.... yeah I'd pay an extra thousand or 2 for an extra 30 MPG over the yaris.
Step in the right direction for Scion
Now just re-badge the fuse to a tC.
Bring back the old xAs and xBs as a hybrids.
And build the Haku and the xP Truck and you would save the brand.
Later.

I like it....
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh143/greybb06/iq1modded.jpg
slight mods...
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh143/greybb06/iq1moddedwspokes.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh143/greybb06/iq1moddedwgold.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh143/greybb06/iq1moddedwblack.jpg
....and wheels...
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh143/greybb06/iq1moddedbluewbbs1.jpg
...and tasty blue too....

I think that it'll be quite popular at Leisure World.

As a PROUD owner of an xA.. I MUST admit this is not exactly what I thought of when I think new model Scion.. BUT they could pass it off as a 2 door model of the xA re-incarnated!!!! :eyebrow:

And hubby Jimxb would probably buy one to use as a daily driver as long as the price was in that $12,000 range!!

I would love to get one .. gas saver + 1

i think the real concept model posted acouple posts above me looks way better than the production model =/
plus wtf why make the tail lights not match. is that another one of toyota's "fun" ideas like only having 1 back up light on the xb2? dumbbb
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q44/burstaneurysm/phpThumb_generated_thumbnailjpg-1.jpg

cool it also said redesigned scion tc somewhere in the article

...Aside from the bigger less appealing xB2, I think the IQ will be a nice add-in to Scion (even better if it has a 5spd option, IMO) So what else about the tC, any further info any1?

red on the left is a rear foglite. euro design like the xD my friend

i see what they're trying to do, but man it's so weird looking to me. better than the smart car, but i'd still look down upon it. hard for me to believe how many ppl like it b/c of looks. for me only upgrades are options, so this is not an option. just saying. they'll do well i guess.

for me only upgrades are options, so this is not an option.
You already have a Scion. They aren't making it for you. :silly:

I think he means he's only interested in cars that would be upgrade from the tC. So if Scion brought out some RWD 300hp sports car, he'd be interested.

For me, I love that the iQ would bring Scion back to it's roots of bringing very Japanese cars that you wouldn't expect to see in our country to market in the US.

This one is going to eat the candies from the smart like we said in puerto rico! if you know what i'm mean

I think he means he's only interested in cars that would be upgrade from the tC. So if Scion brought out some RWD 300hp sports car, he'd be interested.
That's what I mean. Scion's have always been there just to get your feet wet in Toyota's pool; they want you to consider Toyota when you upgrade from your econocar. Specifically, he's going to be in the market for the Toyubaru in a couple of years. :P

I would like to see and drive one but it looks like I have to wait a year for that to happen or pray for my Company to send me to Europe this January.

Superior Gas Mileage, more HP, more room over the Current Smart Car + it's cheaper, definitely on my list. Heck, I'm due for a new car and it's too bad the 08 xB didn't do it for me.

The car looks sweet, and prime for FI! My only concern is that at 6' in height I would look like a circus bear riding a tiny bike.
Although, I still would want one, if the price is good.


It's 3+1 seating.. which means the driver's seat is pushed all the way back, leaving room for a little child in the rear, then a full passenger (co-pilot), and full passenger behind the co-pilot...


3+1.. there is plenty of room....

Call me crazy, but I love it.

http://i36.tinypic.com/301zo94.jpg

:D

I like it. I really hope they will come out with a small Scion like this. After I saw the xD and new xB, I thought they had given up on small cars.

The car looks sweet, and prime for FI! My only concern is that at 6' in height I would look like a circus bear riding a tiny bike.
Although, I still would want one, if the price is good.


It's 3+1 seating.. which means the driver's seat is pushed all the way back, leaving room for a little child in the rear, then a full passenger (co-pilot), and full passenger behind the co-pilot...


3+1.. there is plenty of room....

That sure is a diplomatic way of saying "cramped rear seat, unusable for adults." Somebody in marketing must have thought for _hours_...! :)

They should do what Porsche and VW did, pull the pseudo seats and replace them with a useful parcel area. Make it an honest 2-seater.

the +1 is where you put your subwoofer! :wink:

i will trade my tc in for this, if its between 10-11K

:cry: im already getting prepared for the tons of insults ill receive for being a scion owner after this.

hahaha took the words from my mouth.

damn.............car manufactures are making my life so hard...........building cars for midgets ................i guess i will own my 1st gen xB til the day i die

damn.............car manufactures are making my life so hard...........building cars for midgets ................i guess i will own my 1st gen xB til the day i die


haha! you and me both...


unless like either one of us lands upon a HUGE chunk of change...theeeeen I'm betting plans change.

Edit: except me in a tC. :)

____ing hideous, way to ruin the Scion brand.

^^^^Wrong

i hope i don't have to wait 15+ months for one.

and X2 to the diesel option.

im expecting this thing to cost under 14K

:cry: im already getting prepared for the tons of insults ill receive for being a scion owner after this.

hahaha took the words from my mouth.
I'm already getting prepared to not give a crap when I get twice the gas mileage as everyone else.

And yes, just make this a two-seater with space in the back. There's absolutely no way you could fit four people in this thing AND have cargo space. Plus, I don't have enough friends to warrant having a car that comfortably fits four people... that's why I have a tC. :)

Toyota has yet to disclose full specifications, but says the iQ will initially offer a choice of two gasoline engines, likely a 3- and 4-cylinder, and a small diesel. A gas/electric option a la Toyota’s Prius hybrid is expected around 2010 or ’11. For the U.S., however, a 2010 Toyota iQ would likely use the 1.5-liter 4-cylinder gas engine that powers Toyota’s larger Yaris subcompact, if only because the two models have similar-size engine bays.
I started commenting on this with a lot of profanity and the words "no" and "diesel" everywhere, but then I actually went and did some reading on the interweb. Shocking and unprecedented, I know, but follow me here:
They're giving us the NZ engine. Cool, it's not thirsty and it's cheap. BUT that also means they can also go from the FE spec to the FXE spec and give us a hybrid trim iQ rather easily. If my maths are correct, the FE could get around 40mpg, but the FXE could get around 60mpg... which is exactly the same mileage they're saying the ND engine will get over in Europe. I'd still like the ND to come over here, but I'll be satisfied if they give me a 1NZ-FXE that gets comparable gas mileage.

Also, reading a little more on the internet/Wikipedia and doing some number crunching, I would be surprised if this cost over $11k or $12k for us.

Call me crazy, but I love it.

http://i36.tinypic.com/301zo94.jpg

:D

Woah, nice photoshop work there. I like that old school mesh wheels. How about two tone with the roof area darker shade of blue but not too dark of a blue....

Fail! might as well throw this one in with the recycle bin with the xA and xD.

Yes, because the ginornmous 'new' xB is selling SOOOO well. :rofl:

It's selling well in my area. I'd definitely say that the xB2 sold better it's first model year than the xB1 did. This new car sounds like it would make a great second car.

Call me crazy, but I love it.

http://i36.tinypic.com/301zo94.jpg


I would rock that!

Dont hold your breath. Many cars that are introduced into teh us from the european designed get half the fuel economy and delivery half the performance once they are beefed up to meet to the us standards for crash protection and emissions.

Look at the smart or even prius for that matter.

Dont hold your breath. Many cars that are introduced into teh us from the european designed get half the fuel economy and delivery half the performance once they are beefed up to meet to the us standards for crash protection and emissions.

Look at the smart or even prius for that matter.
I actually factored the US-ifying in to my previous post, for gas mileage and price. It's disgusting how bulky US cars have to be just so we all don't kill each other in our metal death rockets.

The car looks sweet, and prime for FI! My only concern is that at 6' in height I would look like a circus bear riding a tiny bike.
Although, I still would want one, if the price is good.


It's 3+1 seating.. which means the driver's seat is pushed all the way back, leaving room for a little child in the rear, then a full passenger (co-pilot), and full passenger behind the co-pilot...


3+1.. there is plenty of room....

That sure is a diplomatic way of saying "cramped rear seat, unusable for adults." Somebody in marketing must have thought for _hours_...! :)

They should do what Porsche and VW did, pull the pseudo seats and replace them with a useful parcel area. Make it an honest 2-seater.



it's nothing new... most old convertible and fastback cars of the sixties were marketed as 3+1's....... so yeah.. nothing new...

it's nothing new... most old convertible and fastback cars of the sixties were marketed as 3+1's....... so yeah.. nothing new...

Yes, except that "3+1" isn't accurate either. If the rear seat is so cramped that only a child can sit behind the driver, the front passenger has to move the seat up to the point that their knees are hard against the dashboard to make enough room for a rear passenger with legs.

Perhaps they should make it "2+2 double amputees"

it's nothing new... most old convertible and fastback cars of the sixties were marketed as 3+1's....... so yeah.. nothing new...

Yes, except that "3+1" isn't accurate either. If the rear seat is so cramped that only a child can sit behind the driver, the front passenger has to move the seat up to the point that their knees are hard against the dashboard to make enough room for a rear passenger with legs.

Perhaps they should make it "2+2 double amputees"

The 3+1 and 2+2 thing is for insurance purposes only. Vehicles that are 2+2 were never intended on having people in the back.

it shall be mine.....

and as usual. www.scion.com, the most useless website ever. and im still bitter on how i could have had a hot lava if i knew about it when i wen't on the website but nooooo (sorry off topic)

even Nissan has info on the new cube. c'mom Scion!

...speaking of that cube, is it possible for any car company to NOT make a xB knock off?

^ Actually, the Cube came before the bB...

but not before the first xB...

Um, what? The Toyota bB is what the Scion xB is based on. Started life in Japan in 2000, and they brought it over as a Scion xB in 2004.

The first Nissan Cube was born in 1998.

They should stick some Scion badges on it and call it the new xA.
Make the Scion line up a 4 car show.

thats the plan dude. didnt you read the OP? It probably wont be the xA though. They'll make a new name for it, but it is coming to the states as a scion...

IMHO, I think the production version actually looks BETTER than the concept.x2

ah crap. i stand corrected. i didnt look up the cube too deep. :(

iQ dash is hideous. ugh...man, I can't stand it. I wanted an xA but didn;t really like the dash either. but this thing. leave it a Toyota so the seniors can buy it up.

iQ dash is hideous. ugh...man, I can't stand it. I wanted an xA but didn;t really like the dash either. but this thing. leave it a Toyota so the seniors can buy it up.

http://image.motortrend.com/f/10758686/112_0810_05z+toyota_iq+interior.jpg


I don't think it's that bad...atleast the gauges aren't in the middle....

can someone photochop a lip(wing) in the back kinda like the xb or xd has.... maybe wide body kit with some obnoxiously extened wheels, leds around the dash... and can someone confirm it has rear disk brakes!?!?!

also give it some paint jobs, would love to see in black!

we could go without the brown in the interior. gross

Love the car, in fact I will buy one when it is available :) In black of course with dark tinted windows with smoked tails haha :)

Well as long as the interior is not turd brown.

I also noticed it does not have a cruise control stalk... Very annoying. I want it as a commuter as I drive about 100 freeway miles a day, has to have cruise.

I would be super surprised if a commuter-mobile had no cruise control.

Agreed, heck they did not give the yaris cruise either and it is a commuter. They offered a crappy aftermarket unit for it. One of the reasons I like the XD so much, tons of features.

Agreed, heck they did not give the yaris cruise either and it is a commuter.
:shock: I didn't know that. What argument could they possibly have in not even offering cruise control as an option? It's not like it's expensive or complicated anymore.

Yeah was one of my turning points in going away from the yaris. After you added in power windows and locks / cruise control. I was at the same price of the XD new with those options already included. Plus the XD had the much better motor "same engine as the yaris sport overseas" more room blah blah. Was a no brainer.

And yeah totally cheap to implement. It is apart of the drive by wire BS now, not even cable actuated. Just built into the electronics / servo system.

I really hope they bring over the D4D turbo diesel option. I drove a yaris with that setup in France and it was a blast compared to the 1.5L turd. & got better fuel economy!

The only thing I can think of as to why they don't give us the D4D is because diesel for cars (for whatever reason) has never taken off here. I think the automakers are just content with letting VW have the tiny share of people who want these.

We have hardons more for hybrids than for diesel, so giving us the NZ kinda makes more sense, anyway.

The box lacks cruise.

The only thing I can think of as to why they don't give us the D4D is because diesel for cars (for whatever reason) has never taken off here. I think the automakers are just content with letting VW have the tiny share of people who want these.

The other reason is that American Diesel fuel content is not as tightly-controlled as European Diesel fuel. Manufacturers who designed their engines strictly for Euro-Diesel don't want the reliability issues that will come up if the cars are run on US diesel. VW does a lot of business in central and south America so they found it profitable to accommodate the diesel fuels available there.

On another note...

The 1.0L is an optin
The 1.5L is an option
The D4D is an option...

This means technically the new workhorse 2zr-fe 1.8L from the XD or Yaris sport would possibly fit this car. The 1.8L is fun in the 2600lb XD, Is a little more zippy in the 2400lb yaris sport overseas so should be a blast in the 2000lb IQ and still net mid 40's MPG wise. WOOT!

iQ dash is hideous. ugh...man, I can't stand it. I wanted an xA but didn;t really like the dash either. but this thing. leave it a Toyota so the seniors can buy it up.

http://image.motortrend.com/f/10758686/112_0810_05z+toyota_iq+interior.jpg


I don't think it's that bad...atleast the gauges aren't in the middle....

gauges in the middle are a way of life.... i love it .... hate driven with out it there... can't see through my arm driving with the gauges were they "shoud" be... lol uptop in the middle just seems better to me.... at first it sucked to get usta it but now i wont have it another way..

wow, haha...

....... Everyone.... Be prepared to get ripped about owning a scion when this comes out.. :(

I HONESTLY think that the only people that are going to buy this will be old people and tree huggers. :lol:

....... Everyone.... Be prepared to get ripped about owning a scion when this comes out.. :(

I HONESTLY think that the only people that are going to buy this will be old people and tree huggers. :lol:

you saying this is ___ is like saying a CRX is ___.

you CLEARLY cant imagine teh possibilities with this

This should be badged a Toyota, because Toyota's image can stand the joke this will become.

Way to market to old folks and the Starbuck's crowd!

"Why yes Jules, I did drive here in my IQ. Now watch as I order a $6 cup of coffee and look busy on my laptop."

Hopefully y'all don't mess the tC up.

^ You think so? I mean, this is the ultimate car for the target Scion demographic of "first-time car buyer or college student looking for cheap, funky transportation".

Old folks buy the xB, too, but that doesn't mean that it's an old folks' car.

This should be badged a Toyota, because Toyota's image can stand the joke this will become.

Way to market to old folks and the Starbuck's crowd!

"Why yes Jules, I did drive here in my IQ. Now watch as I order a $6 cup of coffee and look busy on my laptop."

Hopefully y'all don't mess the tC up.

wow this is the WORST fail on scionlife i have seen :loser:

This should be badged a Toyota, because Toyota's image can stand the joke this will become.

Way to market to old folks and the Starbuck's crowd!

"Why yes Jules, I did drive here in my IQ. Now watch as I order a $6 cup of coffee and look busy on my laptop."

Hopefully y'all don't mess the tC up.
Are you the guy in this commercial?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4-vEwD_7Hk

plus wtf why make the tail lights not match. is that another one of toyota's "fun" ideas like only having 1 back up light on the xb2? dumbbb


It's a European standard. Because vehicles in Europe require front and rear fog lamps, most manufacturers have it built in to one of the tail lights instead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4-vEwD_7Hk
:rofl:

the front looks like a mad dog..

the back looks like a mad dog with bloodshot red eyes

the back looks like a cats face....lol

Are you the guy in this commercial?

Hey, I was just posting my opinion. No need to be a ____ing _____.

I've noticed that the only people that seems to have a problem with the IQ and the Hako are the tC owners. :P
The tC was the only car designed for Americans, the others were orginally Japanese. Seems to me that the only car not fitting the Scion lineup is the tC. I say drop the tC and bring back the Celica or the Supra instead, or the fuse. :pray:

nooo....i think the IQ is cool...just not my cup of tea. i like coupes...

the box i like too. the first gen box. the xa i like. the xd i like also, the dash isn't in the center. points in my book. the xa i like more, so if it had xd interior i'd like it best of these three. coupe tc still wins out of all them. :)

...fuse is differant. hako is oddddd.

Stupid tC. Yes, I own one, and yes, I love it, and yes, I'd buy it again, but STUPID TC!! if it hadn't been so successful, in both reviews and sales #s, Scion probably would've left well enough alone and just given us the new bB and all would've been well. Instead Scion said "see, we designed a vehicle for American tastes and it sells better than the ones we imported from Japan. Lets 'Americanize' all of our future vehicles..."

As for the iQ, I think it's an excellent, excellent car... for my wife. If it's the right price it'll probably go on the list of cars to check out when her current car dies (Ford Focus, shouldn't take too long, lol) along with the Cube, Soul, etc. So you can put this tC owner into a different category than the others, as someone who likes and appreciates what this car will do for the brand. I'm looking at other vehicles for myself, but if this is priced right it will reinvigorate the brand and make my wife happy she doesn't have to buy an expensive, not-that-efficient Smart Car...

I've noticed that the only people that seems to have a problem with the IQ and the Hako are the tC owners. :P
The tC was the only car designed for Americans, the others were orginally Japanese. Seems to me that the only car not fitting the Scion lineup is the tC. I say drop the tC and bring back the Celica or the Supra instead, or the fuse. :pray:


AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! id wouldve much preferred to be drifting a 400+whp sexy monster beast of a newly designed supra....but NOOO they blew it all away on....a tC.

lol im hating on it cuz im sick of the problems!(due to EX-Boosting)

TIME FOR CHANGE!(since we probably wont get any good change ANYWHERE (and i mean anywhere)else... :tap: )
maybe obama will get a IQ to roll around in...definitely a 1/2 inch steel body on bags rollin on 22's! :eyebrow:

side note i definitely feel there should be an apostrophe before the I... 'IQ :clap: :lalala:

I've noticed that the only people that seems to have a problem with the IQ and the Hako are the tC owners. :P
The tC was the only car designed for Americans, the others were orginally Japanese. Seems to me that the only car not fitting the Scion lineup is the tC. I say drop the tC and bring back the Celica or the Supra instead, or the fuse. :pray:

dont be so petty, just because a few people disagree with you or you just dont like them/us, doesnt mean you should kill the car from the brand.

tC is way better than the Celica, Supra is in a different class. I say make mild adjustments to the tC, offer 2.4(or 3.0 if they could haha) v6 and switch to RWD with mild price increase. i call mild bumped up to $20k. as far as interior goes, the tC has the best interior of any toyota in my honest opinion, though the solara may be more luxury oriented and the xB has its own cool features as well.

iQ is a good move for the brand, but the whole use of the word iQ disgusts me, just like "smart car" there is nothing smart about a smart car. (no offense)
i think its interesting that there is STILL no REAL competition to the prius (as much as that pains me to say, not a fan of the prius)

"Stupid tC"? I never said that.
I love the looks of the tC. I love to have one if i didn't hate the way it drove when i test drove one(was a used one BTW). It's probily one of the best looking cars for under $17,000. I did say that it does not fit in the line-up if you take a step back and look at the whole picture. Scion started out as a brand that brings small, funky looking, fuel efficient, and inexpensive cars to the USA, the tC is none of those.

"Stupid tC"? I never said that.
I love the looks of the tC. I love to have one if i didn't hate the way it drove when i test drove one(was a used one BTW). It's probily one of the best looking cars for under $17,000. I did say that it does not fit in the line-up if you take a step back and look at the whole picture. Scion started out as a brand that brings small, funky looking, fuel efficient, and inexpensive cars to the USA, the tC is none of those.

i didnt say stupid tC either if you were directing that one at me, someone else said that.

to be honest i prolly didnt receive your main point all that well haha.

in the sense it doesnt fit in your absolutely right, its not all that efficient or small or really all that "funky"compared to the xB/xA/xD. but you did say drop the tC. in any case i think its good for scion to try and be more diverse. speaking of which, is it just me or did toyota totally make the scion designers its _____? lol the matrix (i think thats the one) looks shockingly similar to the xA in my opinion (outside at least)

you really didnt like the handling? i love the handling in mine and i dont even have the sway bar or coilovers in yet. maybe its just a preference thing

EDIT: lol i like how the site replaced the curse word with the word "biscuit" that made my day lol.

i just looked up the smart car, and i have to say holy ____ that is the biggest ripoff i've ever seen in my life, it is slow, super tiny, no really great interior features and heres the price:

$11,590 - $16,590 so this begs the question, WTF mate? sure its a division of mercedes but since when is a car with an interior/exterior that is no more interesting or stylish than a wet carrot. and the "convertible version" cost as much as a manual 2009 scion tC!

so for roughly $15k you get 1.0L I3 71HP 33/41 mpg
the convertible is $17,430 (local dealership)

the Celica IS coming back....for Japan only as a restyled tC fools! I looked at a japanese review of the iQ. there was a pic of a guy sitting in the backseat with a woman driving and his knees were in his chest. can't even fit a shopping bag in the back with the rear seats up. what a waste. Scion is headed for the wrong demographics. I tell ya, no kid would want this car. you gotta have yer beats...no room for beats in the iQ. and the Smart? at least you can order different panels and change them out if you get tired of the color of the car.

restyled tC? ummm...

http://images.worldcarfans.com/2008/4/11/9080411.002/9080411.002.1L.jpg

and then there is this


http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/medium/23301CELIEXOTIC.jpg

its difficult to tell, the first one is supposed to be called the FT-HS which is to be the new supra and the second is the new celica.

neither of which look like a tC to me, but there is no news as to what is coming to the US if anything. and if anything does come it will probably be under a scion badge as a higher end scion.

^ that is not the new Celica by any means. found these over the weekend. here's your first modded iQ.
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd53/gr33nd4y6/iQ1.jpg
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd53/gr33nd4y6/iQ2.jpg

as I said about no room for anything in the car. :loser:
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd53/gr33nd4y6/iQ3.jpg[/img]

haha dude that last pic is great lol. that modded iQ is pretty awesome actually.

and about the celica toyota poster, what do you imagine the celica is then?

as I said about no room for anything in the car. :loser:
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd53/gr33nd4y6/iQ3.jpg[/img]

note - if you're looking for a car to sit 4 adults and a weeks worth of luggage, you're looking at the wrong car. for this car, the rear seats are probably going to spend 99% of their time either folded flat (or removed? not sure how they work) leaving plenty of room. on that rare night where you pull Designated Driver duty, you've got the small jump-seats to haul your friends home from the bar.

looks perfect to me (who hasn't used his rear seats for anything other than the "conversation seating" in probably 2 years).

haha dude that last pic is great lol. that modded iQ is pretty awesome actually.

and about the celica toyota poster, what do you imagine the celica is then?

despite the Scion logo, it has now been popping up with Toyota badges
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd53/gr33nd4y6/09tC.jpg

haha dude that last pic is great lol. that modded iQ is pretty awesome actually.

and about the celica toyota poster, what do you imagine the celica is then?

despite the Scion logo, it has now been popping up with Toyota badges
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd53/gr33nd4y6/09tC.jpg

wow looks pretty legit, i like the US tC better though.

just wait til the engine choice pops up. rumor for now is 2.4l 200hp. sounds like high compression to me

haha yea i know thats such bs lol X-) they should pop a 3.0 v6 in the us version as a choice. or at least offer RWD

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit

suck to be you. get yer mouthwash

suck to be you. get yer mouthwash

lol wow :rofl:

I love this concept.a wile back I did this photoshop pic check it out http://gearslave.com/uploads/Toyta%20IQ-R.jpg

tiny itty bitty pimp.

I love this concept.a wile back I did this photoshop pic check it out

that looks like a scion to me, much better than the first shots on this thread.

so whens it coming out cousins

my guess would be 2010

I love this concept.a wile back I did this photoshop pic check it out http://gearslave.com/uploads/Toyta%20IQ-R.jpg

Mary Kay goes economy!

I love this concept.a wile back I did this photoshop pic check it out http://gearslave.com/uploads/Toyta%20IQ-R.jpg

Mary Kay goes economy!
Its the Mary Kay micro tuner version LOL.

I love this concept.a wile back I did this photoshop pic check it out

that looks like a scion to me, much better than the first shots on this thread.
Thanks.

I love this concept.a wile back I did this photoshop pic check it out

that looks like a scion to me, much better than the first shots on this thread.
Thanks.

:D yea man, good job, i have photoshop but i suck at it lol, i'll always get something cool to happen then not know how i did it, or have a vision for something and know you can do it with photoshop but i can't figure out how lol X-)

All i really use it for is when i want to cut something out of a pic cleanly. edge detection ftw! or edge magnet w/e its called.

real dropped iQ on RS-R springs. not that spectacular and still looks funny
http://carview-img02.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/usercar/377945/p1.jpg

^ like how it's totally rocking its own badge (not toyota or Scion)

My next daily driver :D as long as I can fit in it :doh:

many cars in Japan have their own badging. check the bB for example.

So awesome. All it needs is some tiny 4-cylinder that revs to 8500 rpm and makes 200 hp.

remember the result won;t be the same as the Busa Smart car. Smart are mid-engine and the iQ is front drive. so the it's will be a wannabee

I like this thing for some reason!

i can see it in BLACK and some Black Rims...

i could rock it!

looks like it wouldnt ride well in the winter though! i need a winter ride!

never thought about that. back end comes out on this car and it's over. like my xD

AAAWWWW how cute! its a baby XD!

^ :rofl: thats what i thought when i first saw it lol, i was like wowzers its like a mini xD lol

So awesome. All it needs is some tiny 4-cylinder that revs to 8500 rpm and makes 200 hp.

Twin turbo rotary

rotaries don't have cylinders

rotaryies don't have cylinders

really genius? where would we all be without your helpful insight... and there's no "y" in rotaries - dont believe me? try looking it up... wait I'll wiki it for you because I dont think you can spell "wiki" and might not find the site: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rotary < (you click on that, ok?)

Noun -
rotary (plural rotaries)

My comment was to suggest that a twin turbo rotary motor (without cylinders) would be lighter, faster, and a better alternative to a 4 cylinder motor suggested in a previous post. Thanks for playing.

rotaryies don't have cylinders

really genius? where would we all be without your helpful insight... and there's no "y" in rotaries - dont believe me? try looking it up... wait I'll wiki it for you because I dont think you can spell "wiki" and might not find the site: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rotary < (you click on that, ok?)

Noun -
rotary (plural rotaries)

My comment was to suggest that a twin turbo rotary motor (without cylinders) would be lighter, faster, and a better alternative to a 4 cylinder motor suggested in a previous post. Thanks for playing.

calm down....

rotaryies don't have cylinders

really genius? where would we all be without your helpful insight... and there's no "y" in rotaries - dont believe me? try looking it up... wait I'll wiki it for you because I dont think you can spell "wiki" and might not find the site: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rotary < (you click on that, ok?)

Noun -
rotary (plural rotaries)

My comment was to suggest that a twin turbo rotary motor (without cylinders) would be lighter, faster, and a better alternative to a 4 cylinder motor suggested in a previous post. Thanks for playing.

How would it be better? Rotary engines are extremely inefficient. Mazda is the only company that stands behind the Rotary theory, and they're barely using it.

ok :yawn:

No seriously, I'd like to hear your logic behind it. How would a turbo Rotary be better than a turbo I-4?

How would it be better? Rotary engines are extremely inefficient. Mazda is the only company that stands behind the Rotary theory, and they're barely using it.

Power to weight and displacement, uber-tiny motor, super lightweight, 1300cc and easily buildable to 700+ HP, but thats just my opinion. And they are extremely efficient, you are mistaking inefficient for unreliable - they dont have to reverse direction multiple times make power, but the rotor apex seals are not the most durable items in a motor design.

We're talking about an economy car here. The kind used primarily for commuting. Take a K20A and compare it to a turbo 13B. The K20A easily makes 200hp, the turbo 13B makes about 240hp. The weight difference would probably be in favor for the K20A, considering the 13B would have tons of extra weight from all the turbo components. Now let's look at gas mileage, the #1 reason for this car. The K20A would be capable of getting 28-32 MPG, probably more. The 13B...15? 16?

Take a step back and look at the car you're talking about, you'll realize that the idea of a Rotary engine is just plain stupid.



How would it be better? Rotary engines are extremely inefficient. Mazda is the only company that stands behind the Rotary theory, and they're barely using it.

Power to weight and displacement, uber-tiny motor, super lightweight, 1300cc and easily buildable to 700+ HP, but thats just my opinion. And they are extremely efficient, you are mistaking inefficient for unreliable - they dont have to reverse direction multiple times make power, but the rotor apex seals are not the most durable items in a motor design.

Oh yea, and 13B's aren't "easily buildable to 700+HP". The 20B is one that used in almost all of those 700+ HP applications.

And if you're going to call someone out on spelling, I suggest you learn how to use an apostrophe.

i'm not gona get too involved, but i have to say
rotaries sound awesome! [/rice remark]

my mistake on putting the Y in rotaries. just a typo genius. And are 13B's really 1300cc's? that's been subject of debate for a long time since there are no cylinders. But whatever Wiki says must be right. the internet is always right.

Oh yea, and 13B's aren't "easily buildable to 700+HP". The 20B is one that used in almost all of those 700+ HP applications.

And if you're going to call someone out on spelling, I suggest you learn how to use an apostrophe.

I'm trying to make the car fun, not economical, the same way the Smart got the Hayabusa engine and made it a little rocket.

EDIT: And before you start guessing you might want to check your facts, the 13B is a more reliable platform than the 20B and they have been built to over 900hp. One of my mechanics did sidework at a buggy shop in OC that cranked out monster horsepower from 13B powerplants

http://blogs.pitch.com/plog/the_more_you_know2.jpg

well, rotaries are an interesting engine nonetheless.

Off the subject of power, and onto the safety issue.....whats the guarantee that if you get hit in the IQ that you will live...without severe permanent disabilities?
I rode in a SMART car, took me a tenth of a second after nearly getting ___ ended by a Tahoe, to say f@ck this!

then just imagine....i can see how Scion would want this to add to the chick car segment now.
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd53/gr33nd4y6/iQcabrio1.jpg
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd53/gr33nd4y6/iQCabrio2.jpg

whats the guarantee that if you get hit in the IQ that you will live...without severe permanent disabilities?

No guarantee at all. Neither is there a guarantee in any other Scion or, for that matter, a Hummer. It all depends upon the luck of what you hit and how you hit it.

I've been in situations where I've avoided an accident because of the nimble steering of a small car. If I had been in a larger vehicle it would have been nasty.

This "I'm safe because I'm protected by tons of metal" mentality is why we have to deal with idiots driving huge vehicles badly. Big does not equal safe.

any updates?

Power Enterprise debuted SC for the iQ. hp increased from 65 to 90-100. not sure if it's worth the coin really

scion rag top ftw!!!

I visited checker flag smart in va beach a few weeks ago. Having riden and owning a geo metro, its great. You sit higher, its more beef around, plus you can turn sharper with more power. The metro you just get squished since its soo low.

My only concern is getting ping pongged out of traffic in a pile up and just bouncing around like you are in one of those hugh inflatable balls rolling along the country side of europe.

Off the subject of power, and onto the safety issue.....whats the guarantee that if you get hit in the IQ that you will live...without severe permanent disabilities?
I rode in a SMART car, took me a tenth of a second after nearly getting butt ended by a Tahoe, to say f@ck this!

Off the subject of power, and onto the safety issue.....whats the guarantee that if you get hit in the IQ that you will live...without severe permanent disabilities?
I rode in a SMART car, took me a tenth of a second after nearly getting butt ended by a Tahoe, to say f@ck this!

Screw it, you only live once. I refuse to let the idiotic SUV-lovin' American populace determine what I drive.

Yay for Scions version of the smart car... Time for another Hyabusa swap?

Busa swap is gonna be really hard to do since iQ is front engine

Busa swap is gonna be really hard to do since iQ is front engine

Uh, isn't the Smart car a front engine as well?

i thought smart was mid/rear?

smart is rear engine.

okay, so I've been pokin around and found these.
http://carview-img02.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserCarPhoto/1274394/p2.jpg

rims and a drop are everything to this car. of course, proper fitting wheels
http://carview-img02.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserCarPhoto/1240415/p2.jpg
they can also look retarded really easy
http://carview-img02.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserCarPhoto/1219561/p1.jpg

my favorite
http://carview-img02.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserCarPhoto/1311892/p4.jpg

SOLD!!!!!!!!!!!!

I dont like the flat front of the smart, makes it look high center. Likely to pitch forward during a crash.

EDIT: All snap, look at all the you tube videos regarding the iq!!!!

okay, so I've been pokin around and found these.
http://carview-img02.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserCarPhoto/1274394/p2.jpg

rims and a drop are everything to this car. of course, proper fitting wheels
http://carview-img02.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserCarPhoto/1240415/p2.jpg
they can also look retarded really easy
http://carview-img02.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserCarPhoto/1219561/p1.jpg

my favorite
http://carview-img02.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserCarPhoto/1311892/p4.jpg

I just want to say anybody who is complaining about performance in this car is missing the boat. This is a economy around town car. If you want performance buy a sports car. sheesh! BTW I think the scion IQ concept car looks like a hermit crab.

VIP IQ-who would have thought?

Smart is rear engine-under the deck behind the seats.

The bodykitted ones look nice (tha axis show model) but in person they are going to have to looks somewhat cartoonish with big flares and lips-personally I think that is the coolest part-they don't look like the usual cars (like the camry, accord, sonata, etc family)

they can also look retarded really easy
http://carview-img02.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserCarPhoto/1219561/p1.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51N0kyVSk%2BL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

Actually, I wish Little Tykes made full-size cars.. Those things are indestructible!

THIS car looks like the yaris. what about performance or is it a eco car?

they can also look retarded really easy
http://carview-img02.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserCarPhoto/1219561/p1.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51N0kyVSk%2BL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

Actually, I wish Little Tykes made full-size cars.. Those things are indestructible!

LOL :rofl:

good one. there is a hardtop vert iq concept now.