Well, next year i will have my credit dept down and with a raised limit of xxxx, looks like i finally get to go boosted. It will more than likely be around summer but i will be lucky enough to do it. Any comments or suggestions as to what company i should go with would be fun.

Right now im probably going with Power Enterprise s/c, unless ZPI has some turbo kits available by mid-06'. I'm definitely not going with blitz, thats for sure. Sorry Blitz fans, just not a fan of their blower.

I also plan on buying rims next year as well. Some of you guys keep bothering me about it, lol... It will happen, next year my box grows up!! :nails: :P

Cya

No comments? Common, someone im sure wants to say something..

Cya

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good luck with that maybe we can check it out if you ever get up to NC to visit....

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good luck with that maybe we can check it out if you ever get up to NC to visit....

I'm in NC again. Events happend, and my job i had there was seasonal..There were no further leads in jobs so i came back living with my parents again for a while. Thanks for the good luck. So you will be able to check it out!

Cya

If you want comments, here they are.

Don't boost your motor. The 1NZ does not handle boost very well. You should use your moeny to do the 4efte swap once the kit becomes available.

^^^^^What are you talking about? Ive heard of PLENTY of scions of this web site that have supercharged and turbo charged withoout a problem. Of course you wont a 12 second car but you can still boost and not a break a single peice. Read before you comment on something. For now from what ive heard on sconlife matchbox has the xB with most horsepower, hes running supercharged AND nitrous and is still using his box everyday without a problem. Go ahead read up on the forums and learn, you CAN force induce your scion without a single problem.

If you want comments, here they are.

Don't boost your motor. The 1NZ does not handle boost very well. You should use your moeny to do the 4efte swap once the kit becomes available.

There are a handful of people on this forum with supercharged xbs, and two (i believe) with turbos. I've talked to a few people, and i've met a few people with boosted scions. The 1nz can handle boost, infact it can handle 7-9psi daily without any problems. After 9 you would then have to boost up intervals and all of that, 7-9 is perfectly fine and i'll probably be running around 8psi. Enough for me to put down in the 120whp range with just the supercharger added. The only thoughts i had was being i have an automatic, i didn't want to put too much stress on the tranny. But, i have found both blitz and power enterprise tested on both trannys without problems. I'm going with power enterprise because i know the company is a great one to choose from. (of course, if zpi comes out with a well-made, tested turbo i might go with them but for now its p.e)

I'm about finished setting my car up for autocross and road course (track) racing, with my set up now i am making very respectible times. The f/i will definitely make my times much better because my weakest point as it stands is straight aways. Plus, driving it daily as well, im bored with the current set up and as some of us know, when that happens you want more power. heh.

Anyway, thanks for the comments everyone. But you can boost the 1nz without a problem.

Cya

seems like a lot of trouble for 16 hp

not if you have the money, and if you consider the box already doesnt have a LOT of whopping hp to begin with 16-20 is a whole lot

the thing is so light lol

16-20 may not be much on some cars...but you gotta think relative to what its being placed on really

i do agree its maybe a lot of work, but if someone has the $$ and the time to do it, hell go for it

seems like a lot of trouble for 16 hp

Actually, its more like 20-30whp. We have between 86-93whp. (alot of things come into play when dynoing, but thats what people have been dyno'd at with autos and manuals) So, you take in effect that someone dynos after the install at 120whp, thats roughly 30whp over stock. Thats a big difference. And because our cars are light, 120whp isn't ground breaking number, but, 120whp is great on a 1.5l in a car that doesn't weigh that much. Besides, thats counting stock. When its all done with, i will probably have 130whp. Give or take. my goal is 120-135whp. If i can get that, that would be amazing for me.

Which is kind of funny counting i built up a n/a gs-r that had 231whp, but, it also weighed more and was more geared for 1/4 vs. autocross and the such.

Its not that much trouble, and its worth it. IMO.

Cya

im sure our Sheet metal intake manifold will help the xb get more power in NA and boost situations.

were now working on it and should be done after the new year.

The plenum will have 3 times more volume and will be made from sheet metal aluminum and billet flanges for the cylinder head and throttle body.

Here is a picture of the one we made for the Mitsubishi Evolution.
Made 45 hp on the dyno, by just bolting on the manifold.
http://www.weapon-r.com/store/html/images/evointakemanifold003small.jpg

This should open a whole new arena for the boosted and NA crowd to get their xb's into a whole new Hp range.

im sure our Sheet metal intake manifold will help the xb get more power in NA and boost situations.

were now working on it and should be done after the new year.

The plenum will have 3 times more volume and will be made from sheet metal aluminum and billet flanges for the cylinder head and throttle body.

Here is a picture of the one we made for the Mitsubishi Evolution.
Made 45 hp on the dyno, by just bolting on the manifold.
http://www.weapon-r.com/store/html/images/evointakemanifold003small.jpg

This should open a whole new arena for the boosted and NA crowd to get their xb's into a whole new Hp range.

Thanks for the information. Definitely keep me posted as much as possible on this. Also, will that 4-2-1 header work well with a supercharger? Thats amazing how you had 11.1whp gain from a 1nz. Sounds like you guys know what you are doing, definitely.

Let me know as to if the header works well with f/i, and for sure if the manifold does. If it does, you have my business next year. Even n/a, some good stuff going.

Cya

Well I chose the Blitz SC for many reasons, to each there own. With any luck I will
have it installed before Thanksgiving. I pick up the parts that I had powder coated
today. We have the Scinergy Holiday party tomorrow so it won't happen this weekend.
I hope maybe next weekend. Have you been autocrossing your box? There are several
people in Scinergy GA that are interested as well. The SC looks to put us in a class
with the big boys. I think they said STX, Yikes!!

Well I chose the Blitz SC for many reasons, to each there own. With any luck I will
have it installed before Thanksgiving. I pick up the parts that I had powder coated
today. We have the Scinergy Holiday party tomorrow so it won't happen this weekend.
I hope maybe next weekend. Have you been autocrossing your box? There are several
people in Scinergy GA that are interested as well. The SC looks to put us in a class
with the big boys. I think they said STX, Yikes!!

I have. And yes, the s/c will put us in a class above what we are now. Which we can stand up to because i've beaten a handful of cars that were a class above me, one was two classes above me. Depends on how well you can controll your box and how well they can control their cars. All motor with more than bolt ons will also put us in a higher class, not like the s/c or t/c would though.. heh.

Cya

I know the 1NZ can handle 7-9 psi, but for how long? It hasn't been proveb too long term yet, I don't believe.

With the 4EFTE swap, you gain motor with much more potential for power, for probably less than a supercharger or turbo kit. EL Prototypes said it would be about 2800 for the motor and swap..it's certainly an option to think about.

I know the 1NZ can handle 7-9 psi, but for how long? It hasn't been proveb too long term yet, I don't believe.

With the 4EFTE swap, you gain motor with much more potential for power, for probably less than a supercharger or turbo kit. EL Prototypes said it would be about 2800 for the motor and swap..it's certainly an option to think about.

As for how long the motor will last, the echo guys have been the longest. I know a few on other forums that have been running 9-10psi on a 1nz for a few years. It can handle it, if anything the tranny will give out much faster. But it should with around 9psi last i would think a good 80,000+ miles before anything starts coming up. Probably longer than that. The 1nz-fe is no different than any other boosted motor, as long as you stay safe with psi numbers and the motor is tuned correctly..it will last.

As for the 4EFTE swap, $2,800 for the motor and swap install? Does it line up with our trannys? Or does the motor come with tranny? Also, where is this that i can pick it up for under 3k and have it installed under 3k. Thats a lot of freaking work, i've helped with a motor swap before..of course, motor mounts didn't line up either which made it that much more of a pain. Give me more information and i'll think about it. But the 1nz can handle a safe amount of PSI. When the XB first came out, like the first 100 or 200 sold had Blitz Superchargers. Blitz is running i believe same psi p/e is. If Toyota didn't think the motor would last, i wouldn't think they would have sold them with it. *Shrug*

Cya

Well I chose the Blitz SC for many reasons, to each there own. With any luck I will
have it installed before Thanksgiving. I pick up the parts that I had powder coated
today. We have the Scinergy Holiday party tomorrow so it won't happen this weekend.
I hope maybe next weekend. Have you been autocrossing your box? There are several
people in Scinergy GA that are interested as well. The SC looks to put us in a class
with the big boys. I think they said STX, Yikes!!

Where did you get your Blitz SC from? how long ago did you order it and how long did it take to arrive?
I has one of those things on back order for 5 months, I finally gave up on it, Im waiting on the PE300, hopefully it will be here in a week or two, I ordered it on 10/28
Killer, good luck with your project, hope all goes smoothly

Well I chose the Blitz SC for many reasons, to each there own. With any luck I will
have it installed before Thanksgiving. I pick up the parts that I had powder coated
today. We have the Scinergy Holiday party tomorrow so it won't happen this weekend.
I hope maybe next weekend. Have you been autocrossing your box? There are several
people in Scinergy GA that are interested as well. The SC looks to put us in a class
with the big boys. I think they said STX, Yikes!!

Where did you get your Blitz SC from? how long ago did you order it and how long did it take to arrive?
I has one of those things on back order for 5 months, I finally gave up on it, Im waiting on the PE300, hopefully it will be here in a week or two, I ordered it on 10/28
Killer, good luck with your project, hope all goes smoothly

Thank you. Its been a work in progress for over a year now, going from all kinds of looks. Just show, to some go, to setting it up for 1/4, to street-track, to strictly street, to autox/road course/daily driver. I hope this time next year to have it 90% done. Its been exciting, my first time tuning an automatic. Hopefully will be fun for a few more years of driving it before i start looking at something else.

Good luck on yours.

Cya

I got the Blitz from Istoreparts.com (see link). They had the best price ($2765)

http://www.istoreparts.com/product_info.php?cPath=66_674_1244&products_id=13283

It took about 3 ½ months to get it in. The problem was with Blitz. They had been on
national backorder for a long time. The US distributor couldn’t get them out of Japan.
I have it now, but I’ve been slow getting it installed. I have had the intake manifold and
several of the external parts powder coated yellow. I just picked them up on Friday and
they look great. Now I’m waiting for my brother in-law to have the time to help me install
it. It should be running by Thanksgiving.

As for the 4EFTE swap, $2,800 for the motor and swap install? Does it line up with our trannys? Or does the motor come with tranny? Also, where is this that i can pick it up for under 3k and have it installed under 3k. Thats a lot of freaking work, i've helped with a motor swap before..of course, motor mounts didn't line up either which made it that much more of a pain. Give me more information and i'll think about it. But the 1nz can handle a safe amount of PSI. When the XB first came out, like the first 100 or 200 sold had Blitz Superchargers. Blitz is running i believe same psi p/e is. If Toyota didn't think the motor would last, i wouldn't think they would have sold them with it. *Shrug*

Cya

EL Prototypes is working on a swap kit to include mounts, wiring needs, etc. You can source a front clip easilly, usually they go for around 800-1200 bucks. The rest is up to you.

As for the 4EFTE swap, $2,800 for the motor and swap install? Does it line up with our trannys? Or does the motor come with tranny? Also, where is this that i can pick it up for under 3k and have it installed under 3k. Thats a lot of freaking work, i've helped with a motor swap before..of course, motor mounts didn't line up either which made it that much more of a pain. Give me more information and i'll think about it. But the 1nz can handle a safe amount of PSI. When the XB first came out, like the first 100 or 200 sold had Blitz Superchargers. Blitz is running i believe same psi p/e is. If Toyota didn't think the motor would last, i wouldn't think they would have sold them with it. *Shrug*

Cya

EL Prototypes is working on a swap kit to include mounts, wiring needs, etc. You can source a front clip easilly, usually they go for around 800-1200 bucks. The rest is up to you.

Thanks for the information, i might just stick with tuning the 1nz.. I like the challenge. However, when time comes to start buying parts next year and the swap kit is out, and proven reliable and well organized kit, i might go for that. Just depends on whats out there when it comes down to it.

One things for sure, i will have more power this time next year. :clap: :P

Thanks again!

Cya

slap a turbo on it and call it a day...just to give you a heads up, you may wanna wire in a relay to the EFI to reset your fuel trims once every couple of days...it will make the car run a whole lot better, trust me :lalala:

Baine, I have a Blitz on order also. 3-6 weeks puts it here before xmas. please keep us posted on install and any problems you might run into.

slap a turbo on it and call it a day...just to give you a heads up, you may wanna wire in a relay to the EFI to reset your fuel trims once every couple of days...it will make the car run a whole lot better, trust me :lalala:

Thanks for the heads up. I definitely will be running boost, i have a few questions for you when you have the chance, IM me on my AIM link so i can ask you some. Otherwise, you can answer them here. Either way, just respond to this or IM me.

Thanks everyone, keep em coming. :lalala:

Cya

I would IM you but I got some stupid virus on this computer here at work that just sends out mass IM's to people with a link to a picture but its a virus...some retard on here was the one who sent it to me also...I hate computers!!!!!

I would IM you but I got some stupid virus on this computer here at work that just sends out mass IM's to people with a link to a picture but its a virus...some retard on here was the one who sent it to me also...I hate computers!!!!!

Okay, well basically i have an automatic tranny. (the weight was super long in my area when i bought my box. back july 04'. so i settled) So this is my first auto build up. I definitely will run boost, right now im probably going with power enterprise s/c. I've heard they tested for both auto and manual reliability and power gains. The only thing im worried about is putting too much stress on the tranny and having issues with it later on. This is a daily driver, so thats my only concern. What do you think?

Cya

I ran the turbo on my auto for a while with no problems...one thing I would suggest you to do is run an ATF cooler right from the get go. Another thing you should look into is switching up to synthetic tranny fluid. The only demon to an automatic tranny is heat, and boost will definitely make your tranny work harder, and hence start to boil your tranny fluid. With these two simple upgrades, your tranny will hold up just as long as someone with I/H/E mods.

I ran the turbo on my auto for a while with no problems...one thing I would suggest you to do is run an ATF cooler right from the get go. Another thing you should look into is switching up to synthetic tranny fluid. The only demon to an automatic tranny is heat, and boost will definitely make your tranny work harder, and hence start to boil your tranny fluid. With these two simple upgrades, your tranny will hold up just as long as someone with I/H/E mods.

Cool, so you would recommend a turbo over a supercharger i take it, since you are talking about aftercoolers and the such? I've helped in stalled some turbos on various cars, but never done it to my own till next year. Im really wanting a supercharger, since no one really makes a specific turbo yet for the xb..at least, not that i've seen. I know people have used the T3/T4 hybrid and i think someone has a greddy turbo on their box. I dont know, what kind of whp were you getting and what was your set up?

Thanks for the advice and looking out.

Cya

Cool, so you would recommend a turbo over a supercharger i take it, since you are talking about aftercoolers and the such? I've helped in stalled some turbos on various cars, but never done it to my own till next year. Im really wanting a supercharger, since no one really makes a specific turbo yet for the xb..at least, not that i've seen. I know people have used the T3/T4 hybrid and i think someone has a greddy turbo on their box. I dont know, what kind of whp were you getting and what was your set up?

Thanks for the advice and looking out.

Cya

Actually, an ATF cooler is an "Auto Tranny Fluid" cooler. You can but cores from summit racing from Earls for under $100, or you can buy kits already built...I know Blitz sold a kit but it was soooo dam expensive. By the time you are ready to go f/i there will be a few turbo kits available for the 1nz. Right now the only one is TSI, which is basically what I had but my fuel setup was completely custom. I would think that a T3/T4 would be a lil big for this motor, but I guess if you did internal work to the motor, it might work efficiently. I had a T20 BB on my xB and it was the perfect size...full spool at like 3200 RPM all the way up to redline, with very minimal lag. I put down 123whp @ 6psi. I used the Camcon for tuning, and only messed with the A/F ratios, didnt bother with the Cam timing. I figured that if I bumped it up to about 8 psi, I woulda been hiting about 140whp...so I was pretty happy with the numbers. I also was using the stock airbox which I feel was very restrictive to the setup. With a intake setup, I probly coulda gained an additional 5 hp.

DAMN! istoreparts is where i had my blitz on backorder! for like 4 1/2 months!

Cool, so you would recommend a turbo over a supercharger i take it, since you are talking about aftercoolers and the such? I've helped in stalled some turbos on various cars, but never done it to my own till next year. Im really wanting a supercharger, since no one really makes a specific turbo yet for the xb..at least, not that i've seen. I know people have used the T3/T4 hybrid and i think someone has a greddy turbo on their box. I dont know, what kind of whp were you getting and what was your set up?

Thanks for the advice and looking out.

Cya

Actually, an ATF cooler is an "Auto Tranny Fluid" cooler. You can but cores from summit racing from Earls for under $100, or you can buy kits already built...I know Blitz sold a kit but it was soooo dam expensive. By the time you are ready to go f/i there will be a few turbo kits available for the 1nz. Right now the only one is TSI, which is basically what I had but my fuel setup was completely custom. I would think that a T3/T4 would be a lil big for this motor, but I guess if you did internal work to the motor, it might work efficiently. I had a T20 BB on my xB and it was the perfect size...full spool at like 3200 RPM all the way up to redline, with very minimal lag. I put down 123whp @ 6psi. I used the Camcon for tuning, and only messed with the A/F ratios, didnt bother with the Cam timing. I figured that if I bumped it up to about 8 psi, I woulda been hiting about 140whp...so I was pretty happy with the numbers. I also was using the stock airbox which I feel was very restrictive to the setup. With a intake setup, I probly coulda gained an additional 5 hp.

Thats pretty good numbers for an auto. I'll have to keep in touch with you and let you know when i am ready so you can help me get some ATF and a few other things. As of right now, its power enterprise s/c. I've heard the cam con is pointless, but p.e claims it works extremely well with their s/c set up. Which i would imagine does being its all their stuff, should work extremely well. My goal, being a daily driver is 120-125whp. For track days i'd like to be able to tune it to roughly 8-9psi running around 135-145whp. I might even go with around 130whp when its all said and done, i'd like to be in the 120-130whp range to keep it safe, but still have more than enough power to have some serious fun.

We should definitely keep in touch!

Cya

Baine, I have a Blitz on order also. 3-6 weeks puts it here before xmas. please keep us posted on install and any problems you might run into.

Will do.

yea, xBtuner was having a lot of problems with his fuel setup. I also heard, that they corrected any recent issues with the new shipments that have been hitting the shores. I have a feeling that the piggy back that blitz was using was rated for higher octane gas just like the greddy turbo was.

everyone is saying new F/I setups will be out next year did a serch all i could find was greddy switching over to sc from tc. other than blitz, pe, greddy does any one have a idea of what is available next year so that I might decide to wait or enjoy my christmas now

Eat dessert first life is uncertain, and always go for instant gratification.

everyone is saying new F/I setups will be out next year did a serch all i could find was greddy switching over to sc from tc. other than blitz, pe, greddy does any one have a idea of what is available next year so that I might decide to wait or enjoy my christmas now

ZPI has had their Xb in for a few weeks now. They plan to come out with several parts, including Turbo set ups from what i understand. Also, monster motor works has some parts coming out as well. Including the recent, 4-2-1 header, and also a manifold set up that should give us a gain of 10-15whp according to mmw. They also, ran 11.1whp gain on the 4-2-1 header they have currently out now.

As far as F/i, ZPI is the only new company coming out from what i hear. HKS might start working with an xb, but i haven't heard solid information for HKS. Just rumors. Another rumor is that Greddy plans to relase another turbo set up specifically designed for the 1nz-fe. Not sure what the story is on that either.

Cya

I thik Greddy is actually scrapping the turbo for a supercharger setup...there will be a few other companies also, just gotta wait it out...but there DEFINITELY will be some others coming.

I thik Greddy is actually scrapping the turbo for a supercharger setup...there will be a few other companies also, just gotta wait it out...but there DEFINITELY will be some others coming.

Yeah, there should be a lot more for me to choose from when its time. Realistically, i won't be ready till spring-summer. It sucks to wait, but it's something i have my heart set on and its something i can afford finally.

Cya

Naa...its better that you wait a lil bit anyways cause there will be more info out by then. Hopefully someone will develop something to counteract the pesky ECU. That is the number one issue with the boost in our cars, and once that is figured out, everything is gonna be golden from there on. The best possible thing you could do right now is wait.

Naa...its better that you wait a lil bit anyways cause there will be more info out by then. Hopefully someone will develop something to counteract the pesky ECU. That is the number one issue with the boost in our cars, and once that is figured out, everything is gonna be golden from there on. The best possible thing you could do right now is wait.

I have to wait anyway to pay my current dept down. Spring-summer is when i'll be ready. Oh how it will be amazing time. lol

Cya

Cool, so you would recommend a turbo over a supercharger i take it, since you are talking about aftercoolers and the such? I've helped in stalled some turbos on various cars, but never done it to my own till next year. Im really wanting a supercharger, since no one really makes a specific turbo yet for the xb..at least, not that i've seen. I know people have used the T3/T4 hybrid and i think someone has a greddy turbo on their box. I dont know, what kind of whp were you getting and what was your set up?

I really don't think a T3/T4 hybrid turbo would be appropriately sized for an xB. I even think a Garett T28 is too big, but I dunno. Nothing beats tuning.

I think the downfall is looking for a bolt-on solution. I'd go standalone.

yea but when you go standalone, you lose your daily drivability and also things like your VSC, traction control etc...its something i wouldnt do unless its your second car.

yea but when you go standalone, you lose your daily drivability and also things like your VSC, traction control etc...its something i wouldnt do unless its your second car.

Exactly why im not going standalone, piggy back will work just fine. Gives me all the things i need for f/i. Standalone would be nice, and obviously will have more gains. But, this is a daily so i don't need to go all out on it. Just most of the way out. heh.

Cya

bringing this threadback from last year..

you get your turbo yet man?

bringing this threadback from last year..

you get your turbo yet man?

Actually he went the N/A route and redid the whole motor.. I think he was getting 125-130 whp on and auto all motor xB... Kudos to Tony onthat one.. :clap:

bringing this threadback from last year..

you get your turbo yet man?

Actually he went the N/A route and redid the whole motor.. I think he was getting 125-130 whp on and auto all motor xB... Kudos to Tony onthat one.. :clap:

close to 150whp now on the still all motor set up, have had quite a few problems with the timing, ecu, and rods cracking. But right now its driveable, idleing rough as hell.. Figured i'd clear that up.

I was going to go boost, but decided to take the shot at all motor since no one else is willing to do it. I run low 14's on slicks.

:clap: congrats man, i can appreciate that... how does she sound/ nice as heck i bet

Good to see the update Tony. I really need to get by ClubxB more often. I assume you are posting updates there?

You still running 11:1? Are the cracking rods aftermarket or stock? Have you remedied the issue? And what all do you have done right now to his the 150 hp mark? Still running E-manage Ultimate, or have you switched to a stand alone?

It is encouraging to see someone forge their own path sometimes.

Good to see the update Tony. I really need to get by ClubxB more often. I assume you are posting updates there?

You still running 11:1? Are the cracking rods aftermarket or stock? Have you remedied the issue? And what all do you have done right now to his the 150 hp mark? Still running E-manage Ultimate, or have you switched to a stand alone?

It is encouraging to see someone forge their own path sometimes.

Actually, as of late i haven't really posted anywhere. Schedule has been busy as hell and i'm rarely at my apartment since theres always something going on. Plus my work schedule is really crazy. 11:1 pistons is still what i have, oh and i'm running standalone as well. I'll update later, i'm short on time right now.

Take it easy and thanks for the encouragement of my project.

Good to see the update Tony. I really need to get by ClubxB more often. I assume you are posting updates there?

You still running 11:1? Are the cracking rods aftermarket or stock? Have you remedied the issue? And what all do you have done right now to his the 150 hp mark? Still running E-manage Ultimate, or have you switched to a stand alone?

It is encouraging to see someone forge their own path sometimes.

Actually, as of late i haven't really posted anywhere. Schedule has been busy as hell and i'm rarely at my apartment since theres always something going on. Plus my work schedule is really crazy. 11:1 pistons is still what i have, oh and i'm running standalone as well. I'll update later, i'm short on time right now.

Take it easy and thanks for the encouragement of my project.

props on the PE Supercharger.......and a sleeper at that since you cant really hear it wine and all.....its nice to hear someone else besides matchbox go with the PE blower......good luck

oOOooOOo! :nails: so this is the guy you were talkin about, ehh billy. perrty damm sweet to be able to kick every nitrous, turbo, superduper charged :rofl: xb out there, :gun: NATURALLY ASPIRATED!!!

Mad props to killerx, :bow: you have earnd your name in my book. :bow:

oOOooOOo! :nails: so this is the guy you were talkin about, ehh billy. perrty damm sweet to be able to kick every nitrous, turbo, superduper charged :rofl: xb out there, :gun: NATURALLY ASPIRATED!!!

Mad props to killerx, :bow: you have earnd your name in my book. :bow:



Did I miss something. I thought he said he was pushing 150whp? 180whp < 150whp :question:

Correct. And there is no proof that any turbo or supercharger kit out for the xB puts down 180 whp either.

Rumor also has it that Tony now has an HKS Turbo and stand alone engine management on top of those 11:1 pistons. If this is the case, and he really did run a 12.6 in the quarter, I bet he has the quickest xB in the country right now. And that, with an automatic transmission.

my xB pulls on mustangs and srt-4's... and smokes civics, rx-8's, and lotsa other cars...

im getting a dyno for yall once i fix my tranny and youll see im right around 200whp... till then im not saying much

fact or fiction on his setup.........leaning more towards fact cuzz i believe him and he has no reason to lie about anything cuzz he has always been great to this forum and have helped more then a handfull of ppl........but is the tranny holding up Tony?

I only said it was rumored because I haven't seen HIM post anywhere on it yet. I have spoken with Tony outside of the threads on here and Club xB. I beleive what he has to say as well. I just haven't seen him say anything about his setup yet.

I can't wait to see the information when he does.

Correct. And there is no proof that any turbo or supercharger kit out for the xB puts down 180 whp either.


except this dyno vid right...

http://www.zeropointindustries.net/gallery/videos/xBdyno

:lalala: :lalala:

^^^ yea but that vid isnt for the kit that ZPI is putting into production.........they havent made a dyno vid for there current setup yet

^^^ yea but that vid isnt for the kit that ZPI is putting into production.........they havent made a dyno vid for there current setup yet


Do you HONESTLY believe that the #'s on a production kit are going to be THAT different?

^^^ yea but that vid isnt for the kit that ZPI is putting into production.........they havent made a dyno vid for there current setup yet


Do you HONESTLY believe that the #'s on a production kit are going to be THAT different?

Travis I beleive they are talking about the turbo placment change. The dyno was from original turbo setup, with the turbo on the exhaust manifold in the engine bay and not remote mounted on the down pipe. My car was the first car with the remote mounted turbo, until the shop car was stripped of the first setup and fitted with the new design.

^^^ yea but that vid isnt for the kit that ZPI is putting into production.........they havent made a dyno vid for there current setup yet


Do you HONESTLY believe that the #'s on a production kit are going to be THAT different?

thank you...

i think im running more whp than zpi's xB... ill get a dyno and tell all the non believers to shove it... :lalala:

It has nothing to do with being a non-believer. It has everything to do with being a realist. Some people choose to follow individuals or companies with blind faith. Many do so with absolutely no basis in reality. I don't.

ZPI made one dyno run with a prototype car who's turbo set up has nothing in common with their production kit. Not to mention the fact that dyno runs can be manipulated. I'm not accusing ZPI of doing this, but fact is companies do it all the time. Environmental conditions and dyno setup can have a great affect on the results of a dyno run.

And to Fusion, I can't wait to see the numbers from your dyno run. For yours, and everyone's sake I hope you put down 180+ hp to the wheels. I really do hope to see that. I don't care who is able to get big numbers out of the xB, as long as someone is pursuing it. Where it is ZPI, Greddy, Race Precision, HKS, Turbo Toyotas, or some guy in his garage some where. I give them all respect for trying to push the envelope of what people think the xB is capable of.

But for now, the fact remains there are NO dyno numbers for the kit that ZPI plans to sell. And until I see some cold hard facts, I am not willing to follow the stuff floating around these forums hook, line and sinker.

Hey guys, sorry for the late post about my current set up. My time is extremely limited, so don't think i'm trying to not share any information when it takes days, if not weeks for me to respond to everything.

My current set up consist of aem cai, jic exhaust, custom 2.5'' piping to axle, aem standalone, aem map sensor holding up to 3.5 bar, aria pistons, custom port and polish job, regrind cam, hks gauges, hks gt2510 t3 turbo and gt2 wastegate, dc sport header, 103 octane gas (when dyno'd), custom intercooler, custom motor mounts, perrin fuel rail, 370cc injectors, custom rod, and then a few other little things.

Dyno graphs will be up in a matter of time, same with videos. I will say yes, i've hit mid-to-high 12's to low 13's with roughly 195-210whp. Couldn't get a steady figure but two dyno runs hit 200.x and 202.x so i'm saying i have 200whp since that appeared not only more than once, its pretty much in the middle of all numbers i hit. As far as torque goes, 190's. Lowest wtq hit was 184wtq, don't need all that torque in this car, makes it not as fun when you are trying to take it easy.

I know mpg is another question. I'm roughly hitting 17-20mpg all day on 93 octane.

hope we get a dyno... i need pistons and a new head and ill be keeping up with your numbers...

goodjob man....

One question for you Tony... Is your turbo a remote mount setup? If it isnt how are you still using a DC Sports header?... Just wondering.. nice numbers by the way.. cant wait to see the dyno sheets and the vid.

I had the same question as billy. I was also curious to know if you are still running the higher compression pistons of if you had swapped over to lower compression pistons?

And I bet if that map sensor ever sees 3.5 bar your pistons will be seeing the pavement. ;)

I had the same question as billy. I was also curious to know if you are still running the higher compression pistons of if you had swapped over to lower compression pistons?

And I bet if that map sensor ever sees 3.5 bar your pistons will be seeing the pavement. ;)

Yeah tell me about it. Yes to the remote set up, and yes to the pistons. I need to swap them out, but basically built the motor for all motor and slapped some turbo parts on and called it a day. The motor is still running strong so i'm extremely impressed.

Very cool to hear the motor and transmission are holding strong for now. Shoot some pix of the setup you have for the turbo. Did you buy the full HKS trubo kit? Or did you just get your hands on an HKS turbo and do all of your own piping, BOV, etc.?

Very cool to hear the motor and transmission are holding strong for now. Shoot some pix of the setup you have for the turbo. Did you buy the full HKS trubo kit? Or did you just get your hands on an HKS turbo and do all of your own piping, BOV, etc.?

To add more questions on to Dustins.. When you did the Internals.. did you have new wrist pins made or use the stock one's?

deng i think i just have been influence to make my own turbo setup so i can save some money..........thanks to ZPI and Tony i think ima end up fabin my own remote mount setup since i have just about everything that is needed.......milling machine, mig welder, pipping, etc......(yea i have a machine shop in my back yard) i just gotta find me a decent turbine, BOV, etc..... am i able to get the Greddy oil pan? just so i dont have to drill a hole through mines?

If you are interested in the Garrett GT2554R, I have seen some VERY reasonable prices on the web. Let me know.

very impressive guys....
way to raise the bar on our cars...

just post some dynos and pics to seal the deal!!!

this is great.... i knew this box had potential!!!

@aireck
all i can say is look at the echo's, and wait till i got the money!

IM WAITING FOR MORE SWAPS TO COME OUT...
ITS JUST A MATTER OF TIME...

RTon20s Posted: 12/16/06 4:03AM Post subject:

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If you are interested in the Garrett GT2554R, I have seen some VERY reasonable prices on the web. Let me know.


kewl hook up da links man and ill have a look at em........cuzz im a noob when it comes to turbos and but i can fab my own stuff up so that it will work just dont know to much about the turbine and all........i've onlee been able to hook up a turbo to a EK Hatch LS-VTEC setup other then that im still new to the turbo scene........i dont think ima go for very big numbers yet i just want it to work out and all so ill prolly b pushing like 5psi tops.........you know first time to have a turbo(in my ride anyways)......ive driven the LS-Vtec turbo and i was scared of it cuzz dat car was fast...........

Turbo time is over for now, on my way from Ga to Nc for vacation i had to stop three times due to over-heating issues. Back to all motor platform.

Don't worry, after the holidays look for vid(s) and dyno sheets. I'll also try and get a few vids of the all motor "beast" Feels slow as crap compared to 200whp, but 145ish is fine. Can run in the 13's with slicks, mid to high 14's with street tires.

Merry christmas.

killerx, you were running an auto right? how'd you keep it from blowing up?

Hey Tony why don't you bring the car down to our next meet so we can admire it? We are all curious and you fairly close by

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killerx, you were running an auto right? how'd you keep it from blowing up?


he ran well is running a standalone engine managment system.........

i meant how did he keep the transmission from going, not the motor.

It has nothing to do with being a non-believer. It has everything to do with being a realist. Some people choose to follow individuals or companies with blind faith. Many do so with absolutely no basis in reality. I don't.

ZPI made one dyno run with a prototype car who's turbo set up has nothing in common with their production kit. Not to mention the fact that dyno runs can be manipulated. I'm not accusing ZPI of doing this, but fact is companies do it all the time. Environmental conditions and dyno setup can have a great affect on the results of a dyno run.

And to Fusion, I can't wait to see the numbers from your dyno run. For yours, and everyone's sake I hope you put down 180+ hp to the wheels. I really do hope to see that. I don't care who is able to get big numbers out of the xB, as long as someone is pursuing it. Where it is ZPI, Greddy, Race Precision, HKS, Turbo Toyotas, or some guy in his garage some where. I give them all respect for trying to push the envelope of what people think the xB is capable of.

But for now, the fact remains there are NO dyno numbers for the kit that ZPI plans to sell. And until I see some cold hard facts, I am not willing to follow the stuff floating around these forums hook, line and sinker.


:doh: Well, you can just sit there and push 100hp at the crank and be happy with that then... :eyebrow:

i meant how did he keep the transmission from going, not the motor.

I'm curious to know that too. Tranny cooler? If so, what brand.

:doh: Well, you can just sit there and push 100hp at the crank and be happy with that then... :eyebrow:

Aren't you a little late to the party?

And yes, I am happier pushing 100hp to the crank than dropping 3 large on a turbo kit that has no proof of what it is capable of. That is... if I ever received the kit at all.

I hope ZPI keeps up development on their kit. I hope they do new dyno runs. I hope they do put down consistent 180hp passes. I hope they have xBs all over the country embarrassing much "faster" cars. Right now, none of that is happening. And as stated before, I am not one to follow on blind faith.

ZPI has got some great kits coming

ZPI has got some great kits coming
remains to be seen......

:doh: Well, you can just sit there and push 100hp at the crank and be happy with that then... :eyebrow:

Aren't you a little late to the party?

And yes, I am happier pushing 100hp to the crank than dropping 3 large on a turbo kit that has no proof of what it is capable of. That is... if I ever received the kit at all.

I hope ZPI keeps up development on their kit. I hope they do new dyno runs. I hope they do put down consistent 180hp passes. I hope they have xBs all over the country embarrassing much "faster" cars. Right now, none of that is happening. And as stated before, I am not one to follow on blind faith.


:doh: Oh brother, your one of THOSE dudes....guess I'll just hold my replies, as they would be futile.

I mean come on....why should we give ZPI any clout when it comes to the xB right. I mean besides, it's not like they have made tC's any faster right... :yawn:

rhythmnsmoke Posted: 1/5/07 7:54PM Post subject:

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randomsuper wrote:
i meant how did he keep the transmission from going, not the motor.


I'm curious to know that too. Tranny cooler? If so, what brand.


yea he had a tranny cooler but what kind you would have to ask Tony for that one

:doh: Oh brother, your one of THOSE dudes....guess I'll just hold my replies, as they would be futile.

I mean come on....why should we give ZPI any clout when it comes to the xB right. I mean besides, it's not like they have made tC's any faster right... :yawn:

And YOU are one of "those dudes."

And why shouldn't they be given any clout? How about empty promises and questionable claims. I will leave it at that.

I will say that I hold high hopes for what ZPI may eventually be able to do. They just aren't doing it today.

:doh: Oh brother, your one of THOSE dudes....guess I'll just hold my replies, as they would be futile.

I mean come on....why should we give ZPI any clout when it comes to the xB right. I mean besides, it's not like they have made tC's any faster right... :yawn:

And YOU are one of "those dudes."

And why shouldn't they be given any clout? How about empty promises and questionable claims. I will leave it at that.

I will say that I hold high hopes for what ZPI may eventually be able to do. They just aren't doing it today.
:loser:

ill race you for pinks.... :come:

:doh: Oh brother, your one of THOSE dudes....guess I'll just hold my replies, as they would be futile.

I mean come on....why should we give ZPI any clout when it comes to the xB right. I mean besides, it's not like they have made tC's any faster right... :yawn:

And YOU are one of "those dudes."

And why shouldn't they be given any clout? How about empty promises and questionable claims. I will leave it at that.

I will say that I hold high hopes for what ZPI may eventually be able to do. They just aren't doing it today.

IMO, RTon20s is right...by all of what he just said. I, myself, am interested in the ZPI Kit. However, there's nobody around to prove what the production kit can do. Actually, there's nobody around to claim that they actually recieved a production kit.

my kit used all of the production piping and the production turbo... how is my kit not closest to production is what confuses me?

:loser:

ill race you for pinks.... :come:

OK... lets race tonight. I'll drive my wife's xB, and you can drive your... well... Nikes.

Or we can race after you get it back. You'll have to excuse me if I choose a vehicle besides my wifes little commuter auto xB though.

I stand by my statements. When I start seeing real dyno runs of the production kit, as well as kits being shipped, you will see that I am more than fair with ZPI.

I thought you were running the 2nd or 3rd prototype??? Your kit may have the production components, but it was made specifically for you, prior to the mass production of the kit. Don't get me wrong, like I said, I am interested in thier kit. I just need to hear from someone that has a mass produced kit that was shipped to them pre-tuned. If I should ever order one, I want to know how it will perform straight out-of-the-box with the pre-tuned E-mangage. Please correct me if my info/thoughts were wrong.

KllrB Posted: 1/9/07 12:52AM Post subject:

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I thought you were running the 2nd or 3rd prototype??? Your kit may have the production components, but it was made specifically for you, prior to the mass production of the kit. Don't get me wrong, like I said, I am interested in thier kit. I just need to hear from someone that has a mass produced kit that was shipped to them pre-tuned. If I should ever order one, I want to know how it will perform straight out-of-the-box with the pre-tuned E-mangage. Please correct me if my info/thoughts were wrong.


i second on what KllrB on this cuzz i would also like to c how the kit is out-of-the-box and how it performs.......so far onlee you and Billy have had the kit and alot of ppl are still waiting on there kit..........i believe Dustin is being more then fair with ZPI..........not doggin ZPI or anything cuzz they have and still are pushing the envelope with the 1NZ-FE........but cant really sit here and take in everything you read/hear just from word of mouth you know........but yea in due time i will b teaching myself more about our motors and learn from trial and error........so far i just got my hands on the repair manual for the xb and will learn how to take apart and put together the motor on my own then get my hands a second motor and start building it up from bare block up once its ripped down and i will prolly get a head from ZPI depending on which will b cheaper machine shop work to the stock head or $550+a stock head for a ZPI head...........

as far as i know my kit was production... i just have an adapter from the piping to extend the wastegate out.. and of course a custom tune and a 9psi spring..

i understand what everybody is saying..i would be in the same place still if i didnt get a sponsored price on the kit..

as far as i know my kit was production... i just have an adapter from the piping to extend the wastegate out.. and of course a custom tune and a 9psi spring..

i understand what everybody is saying..i would be in the same place still if i didnt get a sponsored price on the kit..

Once i get my car up and running correctly again, want to have a friendly race? Not trying to put down your car or kit, just to see how we compare with each other since it appears we both are more than likely the fastest xb's.

BTW, to the question asked a while ago blitz atf cooler.

i would love to race you.... when an where? lol my car is still in the shop being worked on... if u wanna make the drive to kentucky, we can put down some runs there... let me know..

u should both do an episode of "pinks" ... except not race for pinks, b/c i'm sure you've dropped lots of $$$ on ur cars which may have been hard-earned money.... Or not

as far as i know my kit was production... i just have an adapter from the piping to extend the wastegate out.. and of course a custom tune and a 9psi spring..

i understand what everybody is saying..i would be in the same place still if i didnt get a sponsored price on the kit..

Once i get my car up and running correctly again, want to have a friendly race? Not trying to put down your car or kit, just to see how we compare with each other since it appears we both are more than likely the fastest xb's.

BTW, to the question asked a while ago blitz atf cooler.
Do it down south Here Tony I will offer to attend and tape it... I'll evn follow you up Tony on the way there if something breaks

did u decide where were going to race? i also have a race with rythmnsmoke so lets go down to kentucky and tape it... :P

:loser:

ill race you for pinks.... :come:

OK... lets race tonight. I'll drive my wife's xB, and you can drive your... well... Nikes.

Or we can race after you get it back. You'll have to excuse me if I choose a vehicle besides my wifes little commuter auto xB though.

I stand by my statements. When I start seeing real dyno runs of the production kit, as well as kits being shipped, you will see that I am more than fair with ZPI.


You can always go get yourself a GReddy kit... :yawn:

Wife's car... no need.

^^then why are you making things so difficult, and being all "Nose in the air" type dude. You don't even plan on going turbo? Then what's your vested interest in this thread besides trying to past doubt?

im on your side travis...

I am in this thread because I am very seriously considering purchasing a turbo if/when I get my own xB. As of right now, I am not sure if I am buying a current generation, or waiting for an '08.

And let me just say that I have no need to defend the statements I have made in this thread, or any other. What I have stated in the past stands on its own. It isn't my fault that a couple of ZPI "fanboys" hijack a thread and try to make it their own.

I have NO PROBLEM with ZPI, their employees, or their customers, except... There has been a certain level of... well... dishonesty in the way they have gone about marketing the turbo kit for the xB. I really don't know any other way to put it. If you, or anyone else can't see that, I feel sorry for you.

I do hope they work out all of the kinks, and get their kits into production. I do hope they get valid dyno numbers for the kit they actually producing. I do hope they find a solution to the transmission weak links they are finding.

I admire what ZPI (and many others) are trying to do with the xB. I don't necessarily admire how they are going about it.

I am in this thread because I am very seriously considering purchasing a turbo if/when I get my own xB. As of right now, I am not sure if I am buying a current generation, or waiting for an '08.

And let me just say that I have no need to defend the statements I have made in this thread, or any other. What I have stated in the past stands on its own. It isn't my fault that a couple of ZPI "fanboys" hijack a thread and try to make it their own.

I have NO PROBLEM with ZPI, their employees, or their customers, except... There has been a certain level of... well... dishonesty in the way they have gone about marketing the turbo kit for the xB. I really don't know any other way to put it. If you, or anyone else can't see that, I feel sorry for you.

I do hope they work out all of the kinks, and get their kits into production. I do hope they get valid dyno numbers for the kit they actually producing. I do hope they find a solution to the transmission weak links they are finding.

I admire what ZPI (and many others) are trying to do with the xB. I don't necessarily admire how they are going about it.

you do have the option to go with another kit. maybe ZPI just isn't for you. other options out there consise of GReddy, Blitz (S/C'er), and I don't know any others besides those. http://forums.clubrsx.com/images/smilies/coffee.gif

I am in this thread because I am very seriously considering purchasing a turbo if/when I get my own xB. As of right now, I am not sure if I am buying a current generation, or waiting for an '08.

And let me just say that I have no need to defend the statements I have made in this thread, or any other. What I have stated in the past stands on its own. It isn't my fault that a couple of ZPI "fanboys" hijack a thread and try to make it their own.

I have NO PROBLEM with ZPI, their employees, or their customers, except... There has been a certain level of... well... dishonesty in the way they have gone about marketing the turbo kit for the xB. I really don't know any other way to put it. If you, or anyone else can't see that, I feel sorry for you.

I do hope they work out all of the kinks, and get their kits into production. I do hope they get valid dyno numbers for the kit they actually producing. I do hope they find a solution to the transmission weak links they are finding.

I admire what ZPI (and many others) are trying to do with the xB. I don't necessarily admire how they are going about it.

you do have the option to go with another kit. maybe ZPI just isn't for you. other options out there consise of GReddy, Blitz (S/C'er), and I don't know any others besides those. http://forums.clubrsx.com/images/smilies/coffee.gif

I'm with RTon20s on this one. How can ZPI be an option for anyone if they are selling the product but not shipping it out??? I don't have anything against ZPI. I do commend them for trying to push the limits on the XB. But, if ZPI has such a great kit, howcome no one is coming out to say that - except the ones that are sponsored by ZPI???

There is no need to try and educate me Rythm. I know exactly what kits are available for the xB. I know approximately where they are at in development, and or their track record. I have kept myself informed on the subject.

Contrary to some opinion stated in here, I'm not just in here bashing ZPI. And I am certainly not in here trying to prop up some company that can't stand on their own merit. (And no, that was not a shot at ZPI.)

I am in here doing what I can to get educated, and help educate others when it comes to owning and customizing an xB in any and every sense.

When ZPI gets themselves and their products to a place where I could in good conscience recommend them, trust me you'll know.

I am in this thread because I am very seriously considering purchasing a turbo if/when I get my own xB. As of right now, I am not sure if I am buying a current generation, or waiting for an '08.

And let me just say that I have no need to defend the statements I have made in this thread, or any other. What I have stated in the past stands on its own. It isn't my fault that a couple of ZPI "fanboys" hijack a thread and try to make it their own.

I have NO PROBLEM with ZPI, their employees, or their customers, except... There has been a certain level of... well... dishonesty in the way they have gone about marketing the turbo kit for the xB. I really don't know any other way to put it. If you, or anyone else can't see that, I feel sorry for you.

I do hope they work out all of the kinks, and get their kits into production. I do hope they get valid dyno numbers for the kit they actually producing. I do hope they find a solution to the transmission weak links they are finding.

I admire what ZPI (and many others) are trying to do with the xB. I don't necessarily admire how they are going about it.

you do have the option to go with another kit. maybe ZPI just isn't for you. other options out there consise of GReddy, Blitz (S/C'er), and I don't know any others besides those. http://forums.clubrsx.com/images/smilies/coffee.gif

I'm with RTon20s on this one. How can ZPI be an option for anyone if they are selling the product but not shipping it out??? I don't have anything against ZPI. I do commend them for trying to push the limits on the XB. But, if ZPI has such a great kit, howcome no one is coming out to say that - except the ones that are sponsored by ZPI???


At what point does it dawn on a person that maybe they should contact the sellar to ask sellar specific questions?

There is no need to try and educate me Rythm. I know exactly what kits are available for the xB. I know approximately where they are at in development, and or their track record. I have kept myself informed on the subject.

Contrary to some opinion stated in here, I'm not just in here bashing ZPI. And I am certainly not in here trying to prop up some company that can't stand on their own merit. (And no, that was not a shot at ZPI.)

I am in here doing what I can to get educated, and help educate others when it comes to owning and customizing an xB in any and every sense.

When ZPI gets themselves and their products to a place where I could in good conscience recommend them, trust me you'll know.


Your previous post just sounded like you were spreading doubt, like they can't pull it off. All I'm saying is, do some research to see what they have done with the tC. They are going to push the xB as hard. Their moto is "When someone tells you it can't be done, I go do it".

And I think that's all I have to say on that matter. http://forums.clubrsx.com/images/smilies/coffee.gif

I am in this thread because I am very seriously considering purchasing a turbo if/when I get my own xB. As of right now, I am not sure if I am buying a current generation, or waiting for an '08.

And let me just say that I have no need to defend the statements I have made in this thread, or any other. What I have stated in the past stands on its own. It isn't my fault that a couple of ZPI "fanboys" hijack a thread and try to make it their own.

I have NO PROBLEM with ZPI, their employees, or their customers, except... There has been a certain level of... well... dishonesty in the way they have gone about marketing the turbo kit for the xB. I really don't know any other way to put it. If you, or anyone else can't see that, I feel sorry for you.

I do hope they work out all of the kinks, and get their kits into production. I do hope they get valid dyno numbers for the kit they actually producing. I do hope they find a solution to the transmission weak links they are finding.

I admire what ZPI (and many others) are trying to do with the xB. I don't necessarily admire how they are going about it.

you do have the option to go with another kit. maybe ZPI just isn't for you. other options out there consise of GReddy, Blitz (S/C'er), and I don't know any others besides those. http://forums.clubrsx.com/images/smilies/coffee.gif

I'm with RTon20s on this one. How can ZPI be an option for anyone if they are selling the product but not shipping it out??? I don't have anything against ZPI. I do commend them for trying to push the limits on the XB. But, if ZPI has such a great kit, howcome no one is coming out to say that - except the ones that are sponsored by ZPI???


At what point does it dawn on a person that maybe they should contact the sellar to ask sellar specific questions?

Touchy are we...what seller specific question was I asking???
I understand that you, being a DISCIPLE of ZPI :bow: , must uphold the integrity of thier name. But why should I ask them if the kit is available when it is already advertised on thier site that it is? This has been stated on thier site for a couple months now.
My question is:

Who received an actual production kit for the XB???
How about the pre-ordered kits, has anyone receive theirs (since the kit has been available for a couple months as per the ZPI site)???
How well does it perform out-of-the-box with just having the mass produced ZPI-tuned E-manage?

I've been looking for unbiased/independent reviews for the XB kit...but have yet to find one. You drive a TC - and I'm not looking for a review on a TC kit. Plus, your sponsored - so I don't need your opinion. Like I said - unbiased.
The way I see it - you have to be sponsored in order to get a kit, or buy one from someone that's selling thiers (I tried this route, but got beat to it). I just want to know, like others out there, what to expect if I should actually purchase a kit from ZPI that is mass produced and not tuned specifically for my XB.

I am in this thread because I am very seriously considering purchasing a turbo if/when I get my own xB. As of right now, I am not sure if I am buying a current generation, or waiting for an '08.

And let me just say that I have no need to defend the statements I have made in this thread, or any other. What I have stated in the past stands on its own. It isn't my fault that a couple of ZPI "fanboys" hijack a thread and try to make it their own.

I have NO PROBLEM with ZPI, their employees, or their customers, except... There has been a certain level of... well... dishonesty in the way they have gone about marketing the turbo kit for the xB. I really don't know any other way to put it. If you, or anyone else can't see that, I feel sorry for you.

I do hope they work out all of the kinks, and get their kits into production. I do hope they get valid dyno numbers for the kit they actually producing. I do hope they find a solution to the transmission weak links they are finding.

I admire what ZPI (and many others) are trying to do with the xB. I don't necessarily admire how they are going about it.

you do have the option to go with another kit. maybe ZPI just isn't for you. other options out there consise of GReddy, Blitz (S/C'er), and I don't know any others besides those. http://forums.clubrsx.com/images/smilies/coffee.gif

I'm with RTon20s on this one. How can ZPI be an option for anyone if they are selling the product but not shipping it out??? I don't have anything against ZPI. I do commend them for trying to push the limits on the XB. But, if ZPI has such a great kit, howcome no one is coming out to say that - except the ones that are sponsored by ZPI???


At what point does it dawn on a person that maybe they should contact the sellar to ask sellar specific questions?

Touchy are we...what seller specific question was I asking???
I understand that you, being a DISCIPLE of ZPI :bow: , must uphold the integrity of thier name. But why should I ask them if the kit is available when it is already advertised on thier site that it is? This has been stated on thier site for a couple months now.
My question is:

Who received an actual production kit for the XB???
How about the pre-ordered kits, has anyone receive theirs (since the kit has been available for a couple months as per the ZPI site)???
How well does it perform out-of-the-box with just having the mass produced ZPI-tuned E-manage?

I've been looking for unbiased/independent reviews for the XB kit...but have yet to find one. You drive a TC - and I'm not looking for a review on a TC kit. Plus, your sponsored - so I don't need your opinion. Like I said - unbiased.
The way I see it - you have to be sponsored in order to get a kit, or buy one from someone that's selling thiers (I tried this route, but got beat to it). I just want to know, like others out there, what to expect if I should actually purchase a kit from ZPI that is mass produced and not tuned specifically for my XB.


Me a Disciple.:P ....Naaa, I just enjoy hard working people. Maybe you should start a thread to see who has actually ordered/pre-ordered one. Or does one exists already, I don't know as I don't lurk around these parts much often?

What is the general performance expectations out of the other F/I options for the xB? I don't know what kind of power they put out, as I've only seen one dyno run on a boosted xB.

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[Me a Disciple.:P ....Naaa, I just enjoy hard working people. Maybe you should start a thread to see who has actually ordered/pre-ordered one. Or does one exists already, I don't know as I don't lurk around these parts much often?

What is the general performance expectations out of the other F/I options for the xB? I don't know what kind of power they put out, as I've only seen one dyno run on a boosted xB.

I did start a thread, but only fuscion replied - sponsored with a customed tune.

Ok, so all total how much does it typically run to put the supercharger in your car, and have all the req'd extras as well? Is it worth the money versus the hp output?

Ok, so all total how much does it typically run to put the supercharger in your car, and have all the req'd extras as well? Is it worth the money versus the hp output?

If a SCer cost about $1500-1700, then it would be worth the hp/$ ratio.. But past that no it is not... Save your money and get a turbo kit, that will take your box to it's max..

Great. Thats what I needed to hear. Thanks

Wow how did this go from a thread about Killerxromances and his 12:1 N/A then Boosted and back to N/A xb ... to an arguement about Zero Point? In a short time, I will be running a ZPI made kit. I will make it a point to take it to the track, to hit a dyno with it and no it won't be installed by anyone in KY. So please, lets stop the bash and trash and get back to the matter at hand.... BOOOOOOOOOOOOOST!

Wow how did this go from a thread about Killerxromances and his 12:1 N/A then Boosted and back to N/A xb ... to an arguement about Zero Point? In a short time, I will be running a ZPI made kit. I will make it a point to take it to the track, to hit a dyno with it and no it won't be installed by anyone in KY. So please, lets stop the bash and trash and get back to the matter at hand.... BOOOOOOOOOOOOOST!

Great! :clap: Love to see what it can do.

What ZPI bashing are you talking about??? :lalala:

Wow how did this go from a thread about Killerxromances and his 12:1 N/A then Boosted and back to N/A xb ... to an arguement about Zero Point? In a short time, I will be running a ZPI made kit. I will make it a point to take it to the track, to hit a dyno with it and no it won't be installed by anyone in KY. So please, lets stop the bash and trash and get back to the matter at hand.... BOOOOOOOOOOOOOST!

WooooHaaaaaaa to that Pat...

Name of the game is Boost... and man is it addictive... 8)

Wow how did this go from a thread about Killerxromances and his 12:1 N/A then Boosted and back to N/A xb ... to an arguement about Zero Point? In a short time, I will be running a ZPI made kit. I will make it a point to take it to the track, to hit a dyno with it and no it won't be installed by anyone in KY. So please, lets stop the bash and trash and get back to the matter at hand.... BOOOOOOOOOOOOOST!

The thread got like that because this is Scionlife. I know I am not the one that started the ZPI talk. And I know I haven't been doing any ZPI bashing. Stating fact (for the most part) and a little bit opf personal opinion once others brought them into the mix. If someone somewhere misconstrued my comments for bashing, it might be time for them to get off of internet forums. Their skin is obviously to thin for it.

Oh, and good luck with your kit. I really do mean that. I can't wait to see what kind of numbers you put down, and how well it does on the track.

did u decide where were going to race? i also have a race with rythmnsmoke so lets go down to kentucky and tape it... :P

Im thinking march sometime, not sure yet. March 24th possible? I have a friend that can follow me up with his sti to film, take pictures, and also make sure nothing breaks down since he knows as much about my motor as i do (used to have a built echo, plus hes the one i got the turbo from.

I'll find out what dates are good for him and i and let you know.

lemme know, you wont be able to keep up though.... < thats some fight talk

lemme know, you wont be able to keep up though.... < thats some fight talk

Fight talk eh? This is what i purpose...

-Sicks
-Race gas of 101oct+
- Weight reduction is acceptable, but to a degree..
- A psi limit of 11.5, otherwise im going to have problems.

That way, whp would be similar, and it comes down to the ye old debate of auto vs. manual, zpi vs. custom....

That way, whp would be similar, and it comes down to the ye old debate of auto vs. manual, zpi vs. custom....



You forgot about Driver. That's more important than anything you just listed.

Not to mention, don't I get to play too? :P

That way, whp would be similar, and it comes down to the ye old debate of auto vs. manual, zpi vs. custom....



You forgot about Driver. That's more important than anything you just listed.

Not to mention, don't I get to play too? :P

I have faith that i'm just as good as he is. I know im a good driver, not the best, nor amazingly great. But i know i'm a good driver. So i'm assuming he hasn't been racing for 7 years and a pro.

and if you want to play, yes you can play.

yo let me know where you guys are going to race, i wanna piece.

yo let me know where you guys are going to race, i wanna piece.

Lol, before a date will be set theres going to be like 50 people racing each other. Might as well be a circuit.

yo let me know where you guys are going to race, i wanna piece.

everybody is invited.... this will be sick if it turned into a big shootout
i think we should run full interiors... this will give a real life comparision to everybody... if i can get slicks, then that is cool.... i also think we should run reg 93 octane... i just want to have some fun, i dont think ull be able to keep up if u wanna turn up the boost...

i wanna do some real life comparisions, killerx this is gunna be fun..
travis, im gunna give u a run for ur money..
and anybody else wants to come, you are invited... we have yet to set a solid date, but im pretty sure we will post it once everything is confirmed...

killerx, what setup r u running now? just curious? remote setup still?

That way, whp would be similar, and it comes down to the ye old debate of auto vs. manual, zpi vs. custom....



You forgot about Driver. That's more important than anything you just listed.

Not to mention, don't I get to play too? :P

I have faith that i'm just as good as he is. I know im a good driver, not the best, nor amazingly great. But i know i'm a good driver. So i'm assuming he hasn't been racing for 7 years and a pro.

shifting does have a large part in racing...i consider myself a pretty good driver, not a pro..

oh man im excited!! this is gunna be fun

i already pulled out my rear interior, and don't have it anymore(trashed it), so that's outta the question for me. Maybe we should just all run on street-tires.

hey man i saw ur running that blitz s/c and a shot of nos... be careful u dont blow ur engine

i don't run that setup anymore

and yes i already blew my motor, but it took a 100hp shot to do so

dang that blows man, i blew my tranny, if that makes u feel better... how much was ur new engine?

$200

i just updated my profile with my new setup check it out

nice list ya got there

Damn... all this talk about racing.. wish I could meet up with ya'll and throw my hat in the ring.. Any time you guys want to take a roadtrip to FL, hit me up and we can get some killer races going.

yo let me know where you guys are going to race, i wanna piece.

everybody is invited.... this will be sick if it turned into a big shootout
i think we should run full interiors... this will give a real life comparision to everybody... if i can get slicks, then that is cool.... i also think we should run reg 93 octane... i just want to have some fun, i dont think ull be able to keep up if u wanna turn up the boost...

i wanna do some real life comparisions, killerx this is gunna be fun..
travis, im gunna give u a run for ur money..
and anybody else wants to come, you are invited... we have yet to set a solid date, but im pretty sure we will post it once everything is confirmed...

killerx, what setup r u running now? just curious? remote setup still?

Real life is fine, but i need to run 103 octane if im racing. And i bet you'd be surprised if your doubting i can keep up, if we are doing street tires, i will need to turn the boost up a bit on race day. By the time we do race, i will also have some surprises too.

i already pulled out my rear interior, and don't have it anymore(trashed it), so that's outta the question for me.


+ 1

i just updated my profile with my new setup check it out


Have you dynoed it yet? If not, how much would you guesstimate you were putting down now?

ill race with full interior... i dont care... :rofl: who wants to race :eyebrow:

ill race with full interior... i dont care... :rofl: who wants to race :eyebrow:

You got to get that tranny fixed first....http://forums.clubrsx.com/images/smilies/coffee.gif

thats a low blow... but ok i see how it is :P

^^LOL.

hmm .