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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BeQuietAndDrive
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As for the 4EFTE swap, $2,800 for the motor and swap install? Does it line up with our trannys? Or does the motor come with tranny? Also, where is this that i can pick it up for under 3k and have it installed under 3k. Thats a lot of freaking work, i've helped with a motor swap before..of course, motor mounts didn't line up either which made it that much more of a pain. Give me more information and i'll think about it. But the 1nz can handle a safe amount of PSI. When the XB first came out, like the first 100 or 200 sold had Blitz Superchargers. Blitz is running i believe same psi p/e is. If Toyota didn't think the motor would last, i wouldn't think they would have sold them with it. *Shrug*

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EL Prototypes is working on a swap kit to include mounts, wiring needs, etc. You can source a front clip easilly, usually they go for around 800-1200 bucks. The rest is up to you.
Thanks for the information, i might just stick with tuning the 1nz.. I like the challenge. However, when time comes to start buying parts next year and the swap kit is out, and proven reliable and well organized kit, i might go for that. Just depends on whats out there when it comes down to it.

One things for sure, i will have more power this time next year.

Thanks again!

Cya
Old Nov 14, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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slap a turbo on it and call it a day...just to give you a heads up, you may wanna wire in a relay to the EFI to reset your fuel trims once every couple of days...it will make the car run a whole lot better, trust me
Old Nov 14, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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Baine, I have a Blitz on order also. 3-6 weeks puts it here before xmas. please keep us posted on install and any problems you might run into.
Old Nov 14, 2005 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Simplyscion
slap a turbo on it and call it a day...just to give you a heads up, you may wanna wire in a relay to the EFI to reset your fuel trims once every couple of days...it will make the car run a whole lot better, trust me
Thanks for the heads up. I definitely will be running boost, i have a few questions for you when you have the chance, IM me on my AIM link so i can ask you some. Otherwise, you can answer them here. Either way, just respond to this or IM me.

Thanks everyone, keep em coming.

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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 09:57 PM
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I would IM you but I got some stupid virus on this computer here at work that just sends out mass IM's to people with a link to a picture but its a virus...some retard on here was the one who sent it to me also...I hate computers!!!!!
Old Nov 14, 2005 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Simplyscion
I would IM you but I got some stupid virus on this computer here at work that just sends out mass IM's to people with a link to a picture but its a virus...some retard on here was the one who sent it to me also...I hate computers!!!!!
Okay, well basically i have an automatic tranny. (the weight was super long in my area when i bought my box. back july 04'. so i settled) So this is my first auto build up. I definitely will run boost, right now im probably going with power enterprise s/c. I've heard they tested for both auto and manual reliability and power gains. The only thing im worried about is putting too much stress on the tranny and having issues with it later on. This is a daily driver, so thats my only concern. What do you think?

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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 10:25 PM
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I ran the turbo on my auto for a while with no problems...one thing I would suggest you to do is run an ATF cooler right from the get go. Another thing you should look into is switching up to synthetic tranny fluid. The only demon to an automatic tranny is heat, and boost will definitely make your tranny work harder, and hence start to boil your tranny fluid. With these two simple upgrades, your tranny will hold up just as long as someone with I/H/E mods.
Old Nov 14, 2005 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Simplyscion
I ran the turbo on my auto for a while with no problems...one thing I would suggest you to do is run an ATF cooler right from the get go. Another thing you should look into is switching up to synthetic tranny fluid. The only demon to an automatic tranny is heat, and boost will definitely make your tranny work harder, and hence start to boil your tranny fluid. With these two simple upgrades, your tranny will hold up just as long as someone with I/H/E mods.
Cool, so you would recommend a turbo over a supercharger i take it, since you are talking about aftercoolers and the such? I've helped in stalled some turbos on various cars, but never done it to my own till next year. Im really wanting a supercharger, since no one really makes a specific turbo yet for the xb..at least, not that i've seen. I know people have used the T3/T4 hybrid and i think someone has a greddy turbo on their box. I dont know, what kind of whp were you getting and what was your set up?

Thanks for the advice and looking out.

Cya
Old Nov 14, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by killerxromances

Cool, so you would recommend a turbo over a supercharger i take it, since you are talking about aftercoolers and the such? I've helped in stalled some turbos on various cars, but never done it to my own till next year. Im really wanting a supercharger, since no one really makes a specific turbo yet for the xb..at least, not that i've seen. I know people have used the T3/T4 hybrid and i think someone has a greddy turbo on their box. I dont know, what kind of whp were you getting and what was your set up?

Thanks for the advice and looking out.

Cya
Actually, an ATF cooler is an "Auto Tranny Fluid" cooler. You can but cores from summit racing from Earls for under $100, or you can buy kits already built...I know Blitz sold a kit but it was soooo dam expensive. By the time you are ready to go f/i there will be a few turbo kits available for the 1nz. Right now the only one is TSI, which is basically what I had but my fuel setup was completely custom. I would think that a T3/T4 would be a lil big for this motor, but I guess if you did internal work to the motor, it might work efficiently. I had a T20 BB on my xB and it was the perfect size...full spool at like 3200 RPM all the way up to redline, with very minimal lag. I put down 123whp @ 6psi. I used the Camcon for tuning, and only messed with the A/F ratios, didnt bother with the Cam timing. I figured that if I bumped it up to about 8 psi, I woulda been hiting about 140whp...so I was pretty happy with the numbers. I also was using the stock airbox which I feel was very restrictive to the setup. With a intake setup, I probly coulda gained an additional 5 hp.
Old Nov 14, 2005 | 11:15 PM
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DAMN! istoreparts is where i had my blitz on backorder! for like 4 1/2 months!
Old Nov 14, 2005 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Simplyscion
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Cool, so you would recommend a turbo over a supercharger i take it, since you are talking about aftercoolers and the such? I've helped in stalled some turbos on various cars, but never done it to my own till next year. Im really wanting a supercharger, since no one really makes a specific turbo yet for the xb..at least, not that i've seen. I know people have used the T3/T4 hybrid and i think someone has a greddy turbo on their box. I dont know, what kind of whp were you getting and what was your set up?

Thanks for the advice and looking out.

Cya
Actually, an ATF cooler is an "Auto Tranny Fluid" cooler. You can but cores from summit racing from Earls for under $100, or you can buy kits already built...I know Blitz sold a kit but it was soooo dam expensive. By the time you are ready to go f/i there will be a few turbo kits available for the 1nz. Right now the only one is TSI, which is basically what I had but my fuel setup was completely custom. I would think that a T3/T4 would be a lil big for this motor, but I guess if you did internal work to the motor, it might work efficiently. I had a T20 BB on my xB and it was the perfect size...full spool at like 3200 RPM all the way up to redline, with very minimal lag. I put down 123whp @ 6psi. I used the Camcon for tuning, and only messed with the A/F ratios, didnt bother with the Cam timing. I figured that if I bumped it up to about 8 psi, I woulda been hiting about 140whp...so I was pretty happy with the numbers. I also was using the stock airbox which I feel was very restrictive to the setup. With a intake setup, I probly coulda gained an additional 5 hp.
Thats pretty good numbers for an auto. I'll have to keep in touch with you and let you know when i am ready so you can help me get some ATF and a few other things. As of right now, its power enterprise s/c. I've heard the cam con is pointless, but p.e claims it works extremely well with their s/c set up. Which i would imagine does being its all their stuff, should work extremely well. My goal, being a daily driver is 120-125whp. For track days i'd like to be able to tune it to roughly 8-9psi running around 135-145whp. I might even go with around 130whp when its all said and done, i'd like to be in the 120-130whp range to keep it safe, but still have more than enough power to have some serious fun.

We should definitely keep in touch!

Cya
Old Nov 14, 2005 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by hip_2b_sqr
Baine, I have a Blitz on order also. 3-6 weeks puts it here before xmas. please keep us posted on install and any problems you might run into.
Will do.
Old Nov 15, 2005 | 12:29 AM
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yea, xBtuner was having a lot of problems with his fuel setup. I also heard, that they corrected any recent issues with the new shipments that have been hitting the shores. I have a feeling that the piggy back that blitz was using was rated for higher octane gas just like the greddy turbo was.
Old Nov 15, 2005 | 12:34 AM
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everyone is saying new F/I setups will be out next year did a serch all i could find was greddy switching over to sc from tc. other than blitz, pe, greddy does any one have a idea of what is available next year so that I might decide to wait or enjoy my christmas now
Old Nov 15, 2005 | 12:41 AM
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by whatmovesu
everyone is saying new F/I setups will be out next year did a serch all i could find was greddy switching over to sc from tc. other than blitz, pe, greddy does any one have a idea of what is available next year so that I might decide to wait or enjoy my christmas now
ZPI has had their Xb in for a few weeks now. They plan to come out with several parts, including Turbo set ups from what i understand. Also, monster motor works has some parts coming out as well. Including the recent, 4-2-1 header, and also a manifold set up that should give us a gain of 10-15whp according to mmw. They also, ran 11.1whp gain on the 4-2-1 header they have currently out now.

As far as F/i, ZPI is the only new company coming out from what i hear. HKS might start working with an xb, but i haven't heard solid information for HKS. Just rumors. Another rumor is that Greddy plans to relase another turbo set up specifically designed for the 1nz-fe. Not sure what the story is on that either.

Cya
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I thik Greddy is actually scrapping the turbo for a supercharger setup...there will be a few other companies also, just gotta wait it out...but there DEFINITELY will be some others coming.
Old Nov 15, 2005 | 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Simplyscion
I thik Greddy is actually scrapping the turbo for a supercharger setup...there will be a few other companies also, just gotta wait it out...but there DEFINITELY will be some others coming.
Yeah, there should be a lot more for me to choose from when its time. Realistically, i won't be ready till spring-summer. It sucks to wait, but it's something i have my heart set on and its something i can afford finally.

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Naa...its better that you wait a lil bit anyways cause there will be more info out by then. Hopefully someone will develop something to counteract the pesky ECU. That is the number one issue with the boost in our cars, and once that is figured out, everything is gonna be golden from there on. The best possible thing you could do right now is wait.
Old Nov 15, 2005 | 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Simplyscion
Naa...its better that you wait a lil bit anyways cause there will be more info out by then. Hopefully someone will develop something to counteract the pesky ECU. That is the number one issue with the boost in our cars, and once that is figured out, everything is gonna be golden from there on. The best possible thing you could do right now is wait.
I have to wait anyway to pay my current dept down. Spring-summer is when i'll be ready. Oh how it will be amazing time. lol

Cya



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