It's a Chrysler!!!!

You are too thick headed to realize that GM's reliability and build quality sucks compared to imports, even KIA!

 

this will never end will it.....

just get an type-s and call it a day

 

HAHAHAHAHAH..i think you are right! This kid has called me:
Thick headed
A stupid Butt
A retard
A Douche Bag
I have called him....nothing. He said he was done with this, yet he returns?
he doesn't seem to be able to comprehend that Chrysler and GM are 2 dirfferent companys, becasue he said in his last post:
It's a Chrysler!!!!

You are too thick headed to realize that GM's reliability and build quality sucks

But then, i am the retard. stupid butt and douche bag...OK whatever dude.

As to the RSX-S, sweet car,seriously, but i guessi am an old school guy, and i am a torque addict. The RSX has very little torque....lots of high RPM HP, but little low end punch. Some like it that way...but i prefer a kick butt 0-60 car myself...different strokes for different folks....but hey, after all i am a:
stupid butt
retard
douche bag

 

Okok, you've swayed me to belive the Crossfire would be a better daily driver, as for performance, I still belive the Evo wins in that category. Overall, I wouldn't buy an SRT6 just based on the fact that it's built buy Chrysler and I dont trust them. I'd rather get any equivelent Lexus, Nissan, Infiniti etc. Point is Chrysler didn't accomplish anything meraculous in my opinion, all of the features you listed can be multiplied 2 or 3 times on any other similar car in it's class. Also, I the people at Top Gear who hav driven both the Evo and the Crossfire (done episodes on both, found on YouTube) would strongly disagree with the people at Car and Driver. It's basically down to opinion here and my personal opinion is Chrysler/Ford/GM=POS in comparison to their import counterparts...

 

Thank you bro! You are exactly right! It'a ll about opinion. That's why i dont get all the hating and name calling....we all have our likes and dislikes, which is why there are lots of choices inthe marketplace, to satisfy those likes! I am glad you took the time to research this further. even if you didnt change your mind i made you think! Thats all i wanted to do, was to make you guys think about other alternatives. If you still like your original choices, thats cool, as long as you CONSIDERED other options...thats all i was trying to convey here!
Thanks for at least considering!
Oh, and BTW, the Crossfire isn't built by Chrysler, it is built in Germany By Kharmann, on a Mercedes Chassis and drivetrain.

 

Well, acually, I did some research on the SRT6 before I made my 1st debate post, I just did a little bit more as the debate progressed. And like I said, as far as quality goes I'm not much of a fan of MB either.

Oh, and I never thought GM had anything to do with Chrysler or MB, I was just saying I'm not a fan of GM either.

 

sad but true on the lack of torque, eh there really isn't a "perfect" car, and if there is its gonna be too expensive for us middle class people anyways

 

Well said and very true. It's all about compromise and priorities. Having been raised, and raced, V8's, i like the torque and i love the sound. That doesn't mean i don't appreciate a 4 cylinder performance car though. I bought a VW GTi brand new in 83, modded it, and drag raced it for several years. Then i bought a small block Nova anbd my wife raced the GTi. I love the sound of the RSX-S at 7 grand. , they are great cars, and they hold their value as well as the Scions, which is to say...superbly! I think the OP has a lot of good suggestions in this thread, he just needs to do some esearch on some choices, determine HIS priorities, and select something that matches them.
Oh, Iyzmi, i didn't think that YOU thought MB had anything to do with GM. That was a different poster who said that.
No European car can claim to have steller reliability. In fact, in recent JD Powers reports, domestics have surpassed many Euro brands in reliabilty standings. But reliability, while important, is only one aspect of the total automotive ownership experience.
It's been fun, but time to bow out of the thread. See you guys around the forum! :D :D

 

i am getting a 2007 GTI in about a month..and i would recommend u do the same!! Great for everyday driving with tons of power and torque (200hp and 207 torque at 1800rpm!!) On top of that you get great gas mileage (25/32mpg). plus that DSG transmission is amazing!! shifts faster than a manual! I test drove one and it feels like ur actually driving a manual, but it also has the convinience of an automatic, which is great for a daily driver. best transmission ever made PERIOD!!!!!! cant wait till i get mine!! go test drive at ur local vw dealer

 

i was looking into one of these and 06 si when i was deciding for a car. i love how it looks and i'm sure the power is there when you need it. on the counterpart, very expensive to mod and i read somewhere in one of those comsumer mags. that vw is one of the worst reliable maker out there. now i don't know much about vw but my girlfriend has owned a 2000 jetta then a 2002 beetle. she said the car was pretty good but when a little thing like a engine check light came on, it would cost 2 to 3 hundreds dollars just so they can look at it.
german cars = expensive repair cost
happy car search, fun isnt it?

 

Just go all out and get a Porsche a used one GT2 twin turbo and they are reliable cars trust me on this one.

 

And oh shiz are they crazy fast get like a 98 the last air cooled ones they sound crazy with a exhuast.

 

I would highly recomend you do not by new. My buddy just bought a new scion tC and he hates it. He bought it new, he was very young and didnt really know what he wanted and now he wants to get out of it and he is upside down and will be for quite a while because of the automatic depreciation of the car when he drove it off the lot.

If you want a sports car I would highly recommend you buy a rear wheel or All Whell Drive car, as these are the platforms best suited for performance.

The cars I would look into would be:
LS1 C5 or TA or Z28: Car have decent power stock and REALLY wake up when you begin to mod them. They are very cheap to buy and maintain. And the LS1 makes IMMENSE POWER. I have seen cam only LS1s put 440hp TO THE GROUND!!! I have also seen baby cammed LS1s with good heads put well over that to the ground.

LS1 or LS2 GTO: Same as above except IRS and more refined but that comes at a price as the car is a lil heavier.

TT 300ZX: Great Styling and powertrain. Car being T/Ced really helps wake it up with mods and heandles great.

3000GT VR4: Nice styling, built like a rock and great power and power potential. Only downfall Ive noticed is the are QUITE heavy.

RX-7: Personally one of the prettiest cars Ive seen. Quite quick with good power potential, big downfall and reason I didnt by is because of the very common catastrophic engine failures. (I.E. Apex Seals)

E36 M3: FUN FUN FUN Car. Having drivin a few lately I fell in love they may not be the fastest but I just love them. The seats are AWESOME and the car handles GREAT!

03-04 Cobra: Great Car. Its heavy but makes decent power to offset the weight plus these cars can reach over 400rwhp with not much more than a S/C pulley.

S/N 95 Bodystyle Cobra: The 4.6 32V engine is built great and loves boost. Itd be just like a older 03-04 cobra if you threw some boost at it.

The STis and EVOs are great fun cars but upkeep is quite ridiculous on the cars and the performance does not justify the price for me. Plus I dont think I could ever drive a 4 door "sports Car"

 

to be honest with u i was actually looking into getting a used trans am WS6 or a z28. but i hv recently driven a 350z and DAMN!!!!!!!!!! it was sick im sure and evo would maybe be more sick but wat was so coll bout the Z was wen the traction control is on its like a race car but wen its off its an instant drift car. ive also heard that the VW hv mechanical probs also that on WRXs the all wheel drive power distribution thing is all screwed up consatntly. plus premium out here is running like 3.50 a gallon and that blows so almost every performance car is out of the question but like with the mustangit runs on regular but the gas mileage. soooo i think wat i hv decieded was to get a tc and just mod the hell out of it. but if u turbo it do u hv to run it on premium then cuz if u do....i unno. also the snow, how would it drive in the snow??? also which would be better turbo or supercharge??? also ive heard things bout the roof breaking, clutch going too fast, and my mom had a 96 camry and by 80.000 miles almost every gasket was going on her 2.4 liter. or should i jus stick with an xb (get a manual though) and turbo and jus make it like a super box lol i dunno gimme some ideas to do to a tc too and i love working on cars so pulling fuses everynow and then wont suck also is ther like a super chip thing for the tc/xb?

 

If you turbo or supercharge the tC you will have to run premium. I'm pretty sure about that.

 

speed wise
ws6 > 350z

a ws6 gave me a good run, better than the 350 (don't think it was stock though)

 

F Bodys are great budget performance machines. I had a 94 Z28 with an LT1 that ran 13.5's with bolt ons....good running WS6's will run 13.2's stock, and mid 12's with bolt ons. My brother runs an LS1 Ws6 with cam, header, and intake that is in the 11.90's. Plus they actually get decent mileage if you arent beating on them

 

however i thought WS6s run on premium cuz my nieghbor has one and his is, also wat kind of mileage did u get?

 

It IS possible to run them on regular, as the knock sensor will retard the timing. Not recommended, but posssible. Obviously it will decrease the performance.
High teens to low 20's MOG is common for city driving, while mid-high 20's for highway. I got 28 with mine cruising at 60 on the highway, and 21 commuting. Of course, when i ran it harder it would drop to 17-18 or so. Still not bad for a 300+ HP V8.

 

Buy a GTO!