rangerryda

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Really? How much do they charge?

JDMJim

start your own thread about TDI's!

Sciond

$500..back on topic
wait untilHyundai brings theirs to market

rangerryda

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Ford is win from that group IMO. I like their new approach to building cars. The neat features, eco-boost, styling, all improved since 5 years ago by a LOT.

There's only so much you can say about hybrids that hasn't already been said. Besides Ford has introduced hybrids to many vehicles in their line-up.

highvoltage1

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Or Ford? What Ford has much better vehicles than Toyota right now. Ford is making great vehicles. I would easily take a Ford over a toyota right now. The Tundra blows squirrel nuts the Camry is for old people, scion stinks now, the IS line is underpowered and overpriced (except the IS-F) there SUV's are overpriced. The only good things about Toyota is gas mileage on the corolla and matrix and there quality is good. I wouldnt buy anything but a Tacoma from Toyota but I am glad I got my F150 instead!!! And look at Toyota probably turning the FT-86 into a Hybrid? Thats a winner there! Thats gonna lose major sales. Yea I want a awesome looking car thats as fast as a scion xD! Yea right!!!

Sciond

you need do some more research...Hyundai robotics is used by almost all auto manufacturers....
their new luxury cars exceed most others in their class at a fraction of the cost
Toyota...right now they are laughable.... don't even mention quality in the same sentence any more

rangerryda

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Toyota does have a lame azz lineup right now. Even the RS6.0 TC is fail. I'm glad I got my RS3 when they still have them! I do love my car though. If I were in the market for another vehicle, I'd either go used fast car or new Ford.

JDMJim

Toyota so intent on making a $100k car, they didn't pay attention to the little guys

rangerryda

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I firmly believe that these reported accidents due to "faulty gas pedals" is bogus. The NHTSA is investigating every incident completely separate from any Toyota rep and so far their "unofficial" conclusion was out of the hundreds of claimed sudden acceleration accidents, they were all caused by driver error. The brake pedal was not depressed at the time of the impact.

BUT that's not to say that Toyota can't make cooler cars!!!! Make us something near 20k that's RWD!!!

CarbonXe

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You sir, have your head lodged up Toyota's ___ WAAAAY too far.

CarbonXe

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You were doing great up to this point. Millions of recalls within a 6 month span is miles away from good quality. Their 2009/2010 vehicle lineup has some of the most problematic and recalled vehicles of all time. The only thing that says about their quality, is that it's in the dumper with Chrysler.

highvoltage1

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What recalls? I didnt know the corolla or matrix had recalls? Cause thats what I was referring too. Yea there quality has become worse wth all these recalls poping up. The one that is BS is the floormat thign though. Thats why I dont watch the news they always make ____ worse than what it is.

CarbonXe

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Whoops, misread it. I was reading it as if you were implying Toyota had good quality, not those two specific vehicles.

And yes, Matrix and Corolla were both affected by one of the numerous mass recalls that Toyota had recently, the power steering recall.

highvoltage1

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It did kinda sound that way.
Like why cant toyota get with it and bring in a cool ride?

Sciond

yep if they did I would be diving one....I would sell my car tomorrow for the present BB

Sciond

and if I thought they were on top of it I would have bought the Lexus hybrid

Sciond

BTW I am a member of the Hyundai Think Tank ....boy Toyota could learn from this.....Scion used to listen.....

JDMJim

present bB is small. After seeing one in person, you can't replace a model with a car of the same or smaller size. But if I was in Scion, i would give it a shot anyway. there's nothing to lose now.

Sciond

agreed

highvoltage1

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I don;t know if you're aware(at all apparently) but SCION as a brand has the lowest average buyer age of ANY brand, and that include the mass amount of cars bought by parents for their teenage children.......

No way! Your yanking my chain! Really you think I didnt know that. But i sure do see alot more older folks getting into them. Plus I am sure its more now then ever with the economy.
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I don't get it. You're all hating on almost everything about Toyota and SCION yet you don't leave a Toyota/SCION centric website.


Um let me make it simple. Scion started off good. The community here is cool. I still own one and enjoy it. Now i dont like the direction they are going. Get it?
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