CARB is not a way to test smog. it is not a smog guideline. it is a exemption that basically says the said part does not cause a bad amount of extra pullution. in other words makes companies pay them to test the parts first. but...... if the car passes the tailpipe test which is saying exactly how much of what is going out of the tailpipe....it doesnt matter if the parts on it aren'y carb approved......



it's a huge way for california to make money... the police departments , the air resources board. yes it's good to keep the polutting parts of the street yes .... but what they should do is lower the price and time restraints for a company to make their part legal.


the VAST majority of parts made by the VAST majority of companies would pass the carb testing ( hell they pass smog.....) but the companies of manufacture don't want to delay sales and lose money.... too bad. the only bad part is since cali residents will but the said parts illegal or not the companies will never make it a point to spend the money to retain it's largest market CALIFORNIA.


the companies are from cali. most of their products are going to cali residents yet theyre all ILLEGAL......



it's sad , horrible , bad business , bullsheet , bueraucy(sp)



if california wasn't so beautiful i'd leave.....

 

oh and for all you non cali guys cops go looking to pull over any and all modified cars in cali. pop the hood and look for any and all illegal parts , components , motors...


some have gone to school and know common swaps , common parts , actually search for hidden stuff.

others don't know a damn thing and will point at a stock valvecover and say "illegal motorswap , shut up son I know it is "

or ' illegal ground wires" yeah...... not.....

others know the basics aka header up front , intercooler , blatant motorswap , intakes , fuel pressure regulator if visible.

all I know is i'm scared. wanna know why? AEM lied to the public by stating their aftermarket xb intake WAS LEGAL when in fact it's been sitting in huge stacks or papers at the California Air Resources Boards paperwork for more than 2 years. STILL pending.

 

man i hate cali for one reason... the weather, JK...

i hate it for its car laws.

in diamond bar/walnut the sheriff department has gotten wise to motorswaps, particularly de-t's in the s series nissans, so cops will actually go looking for thoses cars so that they can pull them over, same with the old school civics and there b-series swaps and such.

but have you ever seen a cop pulling over say a 65 camaro? no, because they stereotype...our exhaust are loud at times, sure, but wtf? a camaro's dual muffler exhaust are way louder than ours...

how come we get nailed for tiny little swaps, when those damn muscle car boys dont when they drop in big blocks and other various parts, how come they can run nitrous and we cant?

because i hate to say it, but most cops are racist...racist against import cars(haha)

but its true... i have been pulled over numerous times in my old car(96 sentra with sr swap) but i was always chill with the cop so i never had to pop my hood.. and i have been pulled over a couple times in my tC, you know why...because it looks fixed up.

we cant really do anything about this... it is wat it is, and we are pretty much screwed if we want to do anything to our cars.

HOWEVER timmy, is this gonna stop me from puttin I/H/E and pulleys on my car? hell no... i will do what i want when i want, i pay my taxes, i dont live illegally, why cant i do what i want to do to my car if it doesnt hurt anyone? however if you do go fixin up your car, make sure you keep it lookin some what stock, or at least try to stay within the guidelines.. thats why SLEEPERS are the best

 

The thing is with older cars like my fathers 72 SS el camino. a 65 camaro and all those cars is in california you can do ANYTHING you want to them and drive around, as long as you don't violate any vehicle codes.

Along with my tC. I have a 73 Datsun 240z I am currently restoring and plan on putting an RB in it. The car will be blazing fast and 100% street legal. So I have no qualms about doing anything to it.

 

This thread should be in offtopic, not Autosports & Technique.

It has nothing to do with autosports nor technique.

 

that is true double j.


and yes the sr20 swaps are the number one eaisly recognizable/ common swap. the b series swaps yeah but a lot of them ARE legal.

when I brought up camaro's/mustangs i was referring to newer ones......


oh and there was never a 65 maro. the oldest they are is 67's.


trust when i get pulled over for NO REASON. i'm mr nice guy , yes sir , no sir , i'm sorry sir . stuff like that and yep , pop your hood. funny thing is as hard as they've looked never have they seen my header......... it's only stainless steel and all.....


lol but my aem carb pending intake yep. all the time......

 

well good looking out on reading the thread. I think on page one I personally already mentioned this shoud be moved.

As for the 65 maro. It was just an example. And I was quoting someone else.
Blackonblacktc.. just scroll up and read a lil.

cops are just jerks really. But they have a reason to.

I am not saying the newer maro and mustang owners don't do thier share of dirt. Its just everytime cops catch some stuff going on. An import is involved.

The entire "Loud Exhaust" thing is totally rediculous and I am willing to bet money can be thrown out of the law books.
That or revise it and EVERYONE will hate it

If Harlies, older cars running open headers.. etc can get away with being loud and obnoxious (wich in any case, be it muscle car, import, or bike, is) then it should apply to everything.

Its totally bs and a tool law enforcement use to justify illegal search and procedure of vehicles other wise obeying the law.

 

people will do what they want to there cars, legal and illegal. I wish most of the parts out were legal, but that wont stop me from installing them....and im sure others will feel the same way.
I think the loud exhaust law is retarded unless applied equally to all cars and motorcyles.....