Toda stroker kit, Toda adjustable runner length header, High Comp head gasket, Toda ITBs, valve springs, cams, toda timing belt, and cam gears.

It runs faster than low 14s, trust me. with the stock B16 with a short ram intake, and a gutted to the bones car, it was running mid/low 14's at LACR in Palmdale, which relates to mid/high 13's at sea level.

and I know for a fact I can beat Mustang GTs, along with Dodge SRT-4s, Evolutions, and STi's. a stock Mustang GT is cake-walk, honestly. They dont stand a chance. But also, my car wasnt made for drag racing, as I live by willow springs, and its primarily a road race car.

just stop talking out of your ___ like an idiot. you drive a slow scion, and yet for some reason I get the feeling its the fastest car you've ever owned.

 

i got a truck that ll run 10.97 on street slicks 20 lightning pushes 755 to the wheels, but yeah the scion is the fastest thing i got. that makes a lot of senseyou idiot

 

all I have to say is....you have a mental disability

I wasnt talking to you, as you can tell by the person I quoted in my reply.

so take your dumbass elsewhere.

 

I don't have a scion tC anymore smart one. Look at my profile. I sold it about a month ago and bought a brand new Black 6MT Nissan 350Z. And you said exactly what I asked you to say, to tell the mustang guys you have a little honda that will kick their mustangs butts. LOL. Unless you did some major suspension and drivetrain mods, that little hatch couldn't handle the power that you would need to run the numbers you claim. You don't list any engine damper, LSD, or flywheel, clutch, or anything... That is an economy car right there, more so than the tC. atleast rhythmsmoke has vids to back up his claim. For all I care your throwing out wild numbers about an insanely hyped up honda, that would cost more than it's worth to get it to run those numbers. Plus those things sound like shiz when they go by. I'll give it to the mustang guys, those stangs do sound beautiful, and the only import that sounds close to that deep throating sound is the Z or G35. Too bad you live in Cali. You should drive over to Dallas so I can rape your little hatch and then stop by rhythmsmoke so he can blow you off the road. Go buy an S2000 so you don't look like a highschool kid in riced out civic hatch. Atleast then you'd have RWD.

 

Even those aren't that fast. They have no torque whatsoever.

 

S2000's don't have torque but the guy keeps saying he wants a highway racer not a 1/4 car anyway....

 

if you're talking about me, who the hell ever said I wanted a highway racer? I think racing on public roads is effing retarded. my civic is a road race car...as in a closed track with bends and curves instead of a straight line. and about driving a riced out civic, its 100% bone stock on the outside so how the hell is it riced out? its not even a street car. it never sees street use. purely track use, hence why I bought the xB as a daily driver.

and don't think I'm bashing mustangs because I'm not. I've seen plenty of fast mustangs, but a bone stock GT would lose to my civic, and I know this for a fact.

 

Sorry homie, I was sad to hear it, but g/f's car ('03 auto 'Stang) only came stock with 160-165 hp tops. Don't overestimate you car....oh yeah, dirve a stick it's more fun, and you get to use the hp you pay for!

 

03 v6's were 190/ 220 and 3066 lbs. That's 30-more hp, 57 more ft/lb tq then a Tc, and less then 200lbs more then a TC. A good manual Tc driver might take a new edge auto v6, but that's it.

The 05- v6's are 210/240 and about 3400 lbs. 50 more hp, 77 more ft/lb tq then a Tc and 500 lbs more. Autos are getting low 15's, and thats not mag times those're individual owner times. Stock for stock from a dig no chance for the Tc, only hope is to catch an auto on a roll, because stock the downshift is crappy and we have no top end.

You guys severly overestimate your cars and underestimate the v6 Mustang. It's not even worth talking GT, because unless you're turbo'd a Tc isn't beating a v8 straight up.

 

Whatever it was that I saw said it was 165hp, They must have been wrong.

 

that Nissan VQ is a sick sounding motor , but the Subie STI sounds more like a V8 than anything else I've heard.

 

One word....H.O.N.D.A

 

What are the times on the m/t 05 V6's? 500lbs is a lot of weight.

 

STI sounding like a V8..

 

^^ yeah.. must not have heard too many V8's They sound absolutely nothing like a V8

The V6 stang is pretty dissapointing to say the least. I know people that own them that say the same.. they just could not afford the GT. They will beat a tC, but it is still closer to a drivers race.

But all in all.. the p!$$ing contests are stupid. A GT will stomp a stock tC hands down. I personally am not a huge ford fan (have worked on way too many of them) and prefer a chevy small block when it comes to building for performance. But they are still nice cars either way. And the point is that too many 4 banger kids have this built in hate for the V8.. and want to think that they are nothing compared to the 4 bangers out there.. which is untrue. A RWD V8 will hand you your @$$ if built properly every time. A 300 HP, FWD boosted 4 cyl has no chance against the same power NA in a RWD V8 if the weight is comparable. They have more tq a flatter power curve and rwd to boot.

On the other hand.. you can make one hell of a quick car out of a tC if you want to, and there are plenty of them out there beating the V8's. But both sides need to shut up with the d!ck measuring and just enjoy your car. I could care less what you drive, I like cars and modding cars and will have a beer and chat with anyone what likes the same. I will most likely build my 4 banger up some, and will still end up with a small block powered something in the driveway next to it. All this 4cyl vs V8 vs import vs domestic crap needs to stay back in high school with the kids that dont know anything about cars anyway and spend thier time reading "Import Tuner" while watching the F&F.

 

I think this thread calls for a special occasion.....(**Diggin through Archives**)....AHH found it...

Pay attention to the announcer talking....

Click here to watch LOL-32-43

 

Now if that isn't an oxymoron.....

 

More like a V8 than any other 4 or 6 that I have ever heard., And the ones around hear are pretty damn meaty sounding. They sound similar to V8's not exactly like one.

 

If I had to say any 4 banger sounded like a muscle car, I would have to say that about the SRT-4.

 

agree'd....the SRT-4's have a very mean sound for a 4 cylinder.

I think the STI's have a very unique sound to them....but then again, all boxer motors do when you squeeze a lot of power out of them.