wow... the supercharger at 9psi couldn't crush the SI... that seems weird.... the sc tc should be at about 230, while the si should have eliminated the friction loss from the tranny thanks to his add ons (im guessin 210)... and we tied? *sigh*

 

Yea im not understanding the S/C either..

Travis didnt you hold your own against a Si with just exhaust...
I believe it was this vid..
http://media.putfile.com/2006-Si-vs-2006-tC

care to reupload?

 

You guys just wait until tomorrow morning when I post my videos. My friend and I just took our TRD SCs with all kinds of mods on them and raced a Pinto, a Kia, and a Corolla. We lost every race but one! TRD SC sucks, we plan to sell everything and go get some ZPI turbos real soon. Vids on the way!

 

Ok perhaps a recap is in order......the S/C tc owner/driver has only been in his car for 5 months, and his first race ever was last night.....hmmmm....now I am sure all of you "expert" drivers out there were absolutely unbeatable your first time out...but I guess.....well everyone else were not. Give the guy a chance, he will get the feel of his car, and when that day comes.....might be a different story. Also from what I read.....the S/C only makes approx 40hp out of the box, and most T/C kits make 100+ now I am no math wizard....but seems like a pretty big difference to me....I think what we need to do is after all of us get back from ZPI, in Sept...maybe we should all meet up......you know just to talk and stuff.....

 

Does the lack of torque for the s/c have something to do with this or does not make a difference because it was off a roll?

 

HMMM....I don't know why that vid doesn't work any more. I didn't remove it, and I'll have to go diggin around the HD to find it. But to sum it up, I held my own with a Stock Si when we had just the ZPI exhaust + S-pipe. I could not past me up until we hit roughly 75 - 80 mph. However, my runs were from a dead stop, while Rich was racing from a roll. The Si in this vid is said to have dynoed @ 200whp and like 145ish tQ. The gearing could have played a major factor as to why he pulled late in the race. And by pull, I mean INCH-by-INCH, not like a walk or anything. Rich just needs a little more practice, and trust me, hanging around me, he will get plenty of it. We are suppose to be hitting up Union Hill (real 1/8th track) this Friday. I'm going to see if he wants to roll out with us.

 

Do you mind keeping the hostile-sarcastic type post to yourself. I really don't feel like jousting with you in my thread, so I'm asking nicely. If you truly were not being an a$$, then I apologize for the misunderstanding.

 

And Stuff.......

Did it dawn on you that we rolled out like an Oreo Cookie....Two Black tC's with your White one in the Middle....

OH YEAH....ZPI FTW!

 

In the TRD S/C vs Si, from a dead stop would have yeilded different results. I would have no doubt the tC would have pulled and the Si would not have been able to catch up. From a roll, it's a bit more even.

Can't wait for Rich to put in a bit more seat time. It's going to be open season on all suck heads...We are about to have 3 F/I tC's running around Cashville/Murfreesboro. They aren't going to know what hit them.

2 ZPI powered tC's
1 TRD powered tC

Scikotics Represent!!

 

hahah tennessee tC's holdin it down. ZPI for life.

 

I can see the civic if it was 200 whp keeping up with the SC tC because if you look at the dynos the power curve really sucks. Max power is at Max RPM really and the over power in the power band is much less. From 5k to 6.4k RPM is about the power band through a gear on the tC and the SC really does not make that much power. This is why the turbo tC's really just blow by the SC's.

 

So many people dont give the TRD S/C the credit it deserves...all they want to do is bash on it. So far just since Ive had my S/C installed I raced and beat a (all 3 manual trans) 5.0 Mustang, v6 Accord Coupe, and a EP3 Si. The 5.0 I killed, about a bus length and a half, on the freeway. The v6 Accord 6Speed coupe was also on the freeway, beat him by about 4-4.5 car lengths, from the look on his face and the thumbs up id say he was suprised. The EP3 Si Hatch was on the streets, I pulled on him by about 7-8 Car lengths...he got kinda ____ed off and did a fly by, running a stop sign...LoL

Ive still yet to add my NST 9.5psi pulley into the mix. Right now im , TRD S/C, MMW Header/ S-Pipe, HKS Hi Pow Axle Back.

 

I'm sorry but I have to call BS on this whole video. Seems like a ZPI advertisment to me.

 

im not a zpi supporter and not even I think that..

Guy with the s/c tC obviously cant drive.

 

Yes, I was thinking the same. On the tC's S/C, your hitting max HP at max RPM. With the Civic, he is seeing his full HP before RedLine, which could result in a pull ahead due to the Civic (throwing out a number here) reaching full HP at 5k RPMs and the tC not reaching full HP till another 1400 RPMs later. This is a factor. Same way it is with a S/C vs a T/C. T/C Hits full HP Before RedLine, and holds it, while the S/C, again will not reach full power until RedLine.

 

if its gonna take this kid 5 months to learn how to drive his car he should think about switching back to an automatic so he can stop embarassing us supercharger owners. I cant possibly see how it could take someone 5 months of driving and still not have a feel for his own car...thats pathetic. And no travis, I wont be at Nopi, I can barely get my a$$ out to Atco and thats a state away...nevermind Atlanta lol.

 

He could have it for a year, but that would not mean he raced it all the time. This was his first time racing from a roll.

 

then it should be easier for him...wtf?!?!?! Is everyone missing the logic here...wether you race your car or not, you eventually get a feel for what goes on in every gear, MPH/RPM's blah blah blah...if he was running from a roll then how hard is it to just hit the gas and shift...i could understand if he sat there from a dig and did a victory burnout while the other guy was out on him but this is just the biggest slap in the face ...Im sorry but thats my story and im stickin to it

 

the TRD car and the civic seem about right to me. You are forgetting the gearing and top end pull of a new Si they are pretty fast. They make peak power a lot sooner than the TRD car and they can hold it a lot longer. I agree it is a drivers race but to say the TRD car should pull a modded new Si is not correct. I am the biggest Scion supportor in the world it is how I feed my family but the truth is the truth.

I raced a new civic in our Maserati and I am telling you with the right driver it is faster than any non tq having bumble bee soundin wishin they looked as good as a scion car should be.

 

come on guys....I ran a 57 trim 2 dr after seeing him eat a new si without even trying...he came waving money out the window to me after reading my license plate...I embarassed him worse than what he did to the si...he was running 8 psi. A week later that same civic i ran I seen him getting his car impounded at our local weekend spot